Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

Lots of emotional language as opposed to discussing the facts.

These men will not listen to any of you and change will not occur unless you starve them of the 2 things they love.
Money and status.

That means 2 things.
At away games, vocal protests which embarrasses the owners/management while they are living it up with opposing directors and highlights their short comings.
Not buying season tickets or merchandise and starving them of their cash

Im sorry, but you have never offered an alternative way of making a protest that is effective
you have never discussed what motivates the owners of the club

if you keep giving them your cash and attendance, you are not protesting but supporting them.

short term pain for long term gain, its the only way to get them out.

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

would that not possibly be long term oblivion davo?:confused: ilyas aint a bottomless pit.:confused: you got this great idea, what would sustain the club if that happened?

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

cashman - the current owners cant sustain the club

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

they seem to have no debt at the moment, from what we can gather. i agree they aint competant, but starving the club of cash would bring on another 62.

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

Starving THEM of their cash? No, starving the club we love of cash, until it dies. Is that what you want?

I also notice that you avoided mentioning Ilyas, the person who has ensured that we still have a club. Perhaps you think that his views don't matter?

Once again, I will ask you quite seriously - get in touch with Ilyas and see what he thinks of your suggestions. He's very approachable and he is willing to listen to criticisms from fans...I've certainly bent his ear enough times! So, go on, ask him.

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

I have said all along, while Iylas donations are appreciated, it is morally wrong that he is holding up a untangable board.
I take Iylas point arguing the shares are in monetary terms worthless but they do still control who runs the club; malority ownership is where the power lies.

Once again, you are quick
to attack so i ask you again, inform me of an effective way to protest?
What do you think motivates o'neill and whalley?

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

if that was n attack, ya need to get help.:rolleyes:

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

I would have thought that money is power, rather than paper shares. The way I understand it, if Ilyas converts his investment into the club into shares, he will have the majority holding and that's what counts.

As for the motivation of the club management, as I'm a not a mind reader I wouldn't like to say; I'm far more concerned about their ability to run the club.

If people want to protest, that's up to them. Starving the club of money can only lead to its demise.

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

If somebody buys EW shares then the money goes into EW pocket. Do you want to line EW pocket? EW is not a Director, he is not on the board and has no say in running the Club. Yes he has 51% and if he wanted he could call a shareholders meeting and out vote everybody else. But, as has been said before, if that was likely then Ilyas would convert the money he has invested in the Club into shares and then EW would end up with about 25% so there is no problem. The only person to benefit by the sale of EW shares is EW himself, so what is everybody's problem. Unless you DAV and Shurm are supporters of EW and want to see him line his back pocket. You are not starving EW and DON of money you are starving the Club of money, so carrry on and get a few more on your side and then we can return to non-league and obscurity, we will end up in the North West Counties with Chester, would that make you happy?

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

Surely it should be DO buying the shares of EW not the club ? Have I got that wrong ? If so yeah pay the fella and get rid of him once and for all what's wrong with that ?

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

Starve the club of cash until O'Neill and Heys have no other option than to resign?

The problem is that since the High Court action, the Club hasn't been in such strong a financial position for a number of years due to Ilyas and Peter Marsden.

Should they have let the Club be wound up at the High Court? That would have removed O'Neill and Heys from their posts ... would this be, in your words, "short term pain for long term gain"?

Alternatively, should we hope that the players lose in Round 1 of all its Cup games next so it starves the Club of all the unexpected Cup income that we received last year?

Utter nonsense.

I'll never stop giving my money to Accrington Stanley and I'll never stop supporting the team. No amount of grievance with individuals at the Club would ever stop me doing either of those.

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

Sums it up perfectly for me! :)

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

Sorry is it better then he doesn't get paid then ? I'm confused :confused: :D

just wanted him out the way !!!

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

Shurm many are confused,:D but from my viewpoint if he don't get paid, he don't benefit, if the shares stay in his name, they are worthless to him. thats my 2 pennorth.

Re: Coley & Jimmy Demand Contract Resolution
 

Right so really it ain't ever going to get sorted then ? But it's nothing to worry about either ?