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Not havin a pop rob but maybe a statement of sum kind from Peter himself may of be better????If he was prepared to tell his choosen few the least other fans could get is a statement of some kind ?

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It was not the chosen few as such, as stated it was people who would pass it on and we have, hence this thread by Macca!!!

We have also spoke with people face to face and by that telephone thingy!!

Please read back through, loads of folk in a room heckling, don't get the message out there.

Mr. Shaw and others have tried to pass this info on, better that than waking up one morning and seeing on the television, that we have a winding up order, to the tune of £308K!!!

Please, let's all pull together for the sake of the club!!!

:) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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Sorry, Rob. Still trying to get it straight in my brain cell. By "the details", do you mean the £100k debt to HMRC?

And I'm still not clear who called the meeting - or why. If it was to disseminate information by gossip, surely that would suffer from the Chinese Whispers syndrome. I would have thought that whoever called the meeting had a duty to make some formal statement after it, unless the purpose was to make known some information without it being credited to anyone.

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I have had enough of listening to the non stop why weren't we invited mob. It has been explained over and over again and if you can't understand it then im sorry. This has just made me decide to walk away from the whole friggin thing, I am bo longer prepared to give up my own time to attend meetings or whatever concerned with ASFC if all that happens when we impart information to you all, we get nothong but moaning and complaining. It has peed me off no end and i want nothing more to do with it.

You have been given the FACTS now its up to you to do with them what you see fit.

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Who isnt pulling together for the sake of the club???(post 53)my view on this sorry mess.

But i think a statement from peter for those fans who were not invitied to the meeting would be better than a few minutes of recording from the meeting what was then deleted and the rumour mill going into overdrive.

As the saying goes hear it from the horses mouth :)

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To answer RR post and to put the conspiracy minds at rest once & for all:-

The meeting was held with a small cross section of fans, from all corners of the ground represented, osc, assf & ultras including the mix as well as me from accyweb modding point of view.

The reasons being the small meeting was as i gather as follows:-

* to get the points of the trouble stanley is in, in a general overview without not being heard over crowd, heckling and wavering bring the meeting that lasted an hr to several hrs and point getting nowhere or lost, also not involving arranging bar staff and that dodgey microphone

* to get the 'general' view of concern thats boundering about the stands and opinion/thoughts etc of whats happened over the past months and what the immediate future could hold.... we was told 'be prepared for pain' and deduce possible admin, point deduction, even rele from league as the extreme - BUT there is still going to be Accrington Stanley FC reassured!

* note that the blow of the ^^ above would be no surprise and still shock the hope is that the fans who was there would inform other fans who wasnt present, what the update is and to be put forward to the fans by the fans in any format [other than audio/video] and hope of softening the blow by compassion of fellow fans than director preacher style, Peter Shaw is a Fan when said and done as well as new director, and is his way of keeping the transparency as best he could. Word travels fast! So everyone is now in the loop and can be prepared for saturdays meeting before it happens, also we asked that there should be an update as to what is/isnt decided and fate asap ie sunday was suggested by fellow supporter.

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I am not questioning why peter held the meeting or how he did (that is his chocie) but simply asked for the full facts of the meeting and I thought that a statement from peter himself would of be more helpful..........but that is just my view

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Thanks for that, Stanleymad.

Certainly I have no "conspiracy mind". From over 200 miles away, the sequence of events is very difficult to piece together - but that does not mean that I (and others) will have no interest in it. My understanding now is that Peter Shaw called a meeting of "a small cross section of fans from all corners of the ground" and at this meeting it was said (amongst other things) that ASFC would owe £100k to HMRC by the end of this month.

That figure, however, has now been disputed by the club's CEO.

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He's done what he has done - ilyas style than rob's style:D

Seems some people think that cos we know we're bullcrapping, why would fans do that to the stanley family ?? We've had written statements before and even then people have pulled it apart or they've shot emself - so theres no pleasing in transparency and we wonder why nowts said or done taking the EW approach:rolleyes:

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I reckon there are 2 people absolutely killing themselves laughing at you all now, while you're all fighting you've forgotten what a heap of crap they have got you in to :rolleyes:

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Do we not know anybody who works at HMRC that can act as referee :)

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Good blumming point! We should remember that, LOOK we cant DO anything about it now, its gonna be decided in London tommoz - least we have some good directors there trying their damness to protect and damage limitate as best as they can, so we can have a football club at the end of it and a HOPEFUL resolution to the ownership issue - its a GREAT kick start.

Lets not give the 2 plonkers who screwed it up any satisfaction! We are the stanley family and not taking the crap tinpot running anymore :thankya:

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when did i say anyone was bullcrapping??? but a break down of the facts would be helpful may be i shouldnt ask for facts????

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How often are things lost in translation? Or misenterpriated especially if a bias point of view interprets something differently than how it should be.

I'm thankful we have been told what we have but if you were invited along with the intention of you feeding it back to us, why did Peter not take it upon himself to do so? He posts on here, he could tell us himself everything you've told us.

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What facts do u want................someone to go in nick/copy the invoices or red letter bills :rofl38:

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FOR CRYING OUT LOUD KATIE................READ THE POSTS, YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE FACTS..............WAKE UP, SMELL THE COFFEE AND STOP WITH THE SELF PITYING "MAYBE I SHOULDNT ASK FOR FACTS" CRAP :mad::mad::mad::mad:

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hmmm very helpful

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Don't think anyones fighting dave, but we have robs opening post of the thread,we have a heard by a few commentary by peter which fer whatever reason was withdrawn.:confused: which both seem like were in the Do-Do Big Time, n then we have the Beano n Rob quoted saying "Not a Crisis Meeting" :confused: 100K/30K,? Crisis/No Crisis? Fans are ruddy confused n IMHO deserve far better than this.:(

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Why not simply create a new thread with the entire list of facts we have; seen as how they are so scattered around?

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I have read the posts thankyou RR asks and is answered but i dare ask and i get all this????

thankyou cashman at least im not the only one who is a little confused..........wanna have a pop at him now ukcowboy????

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Peter refers to himself as a technophobe, I'm sure he won't be annoyed if I say he would still be typing it out now, I think he opted for speed :D

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I'm off to Specsavers Mr C :D

I've just setup an online site selling handbags and redirected it here :p

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Audio had to be removed as anyone who was recorded needs to give permission for it to be published publically and it wasnt sought - legal ettiquette im afraid.

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thats fine no problem, but as Rob Heys says "No Crisis" in the Beano, what the hell is goin on?:confused:

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see post 1

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PAYE and both employees' and employer's National Insurance Contributions due for salary or wages paid in the monthly period ending on the 5th of any month should be paid as a cleared balance into HMRC's bank account by the 22nd of that month.

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pardon the ignorance but what is a stake holder ? I guess it is not share holders as they were not all invited to attend the meeting .

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post 1

by the end of this month we'll owe that taxman around 100k.

we have nowt coming in.

the difference between incomings and outgoings is massive and we won't pull it around.

there is a directors meeting planned in London this weekend and big decisions have to be made. I have no knowledge of what these decisions are about but I can guess.

Its going to get messy but the only good news I can take from it really is that it is finally coming to some sort of head. With a bit of luck it'll all be over for the new season - it's just a question of how much pain can we take between now and then


seems to me to be the overall feeling of the meeting not facts


then post 92

Therefore every single thing that was discussed will not go on here no matter how much blood people bay for. The important stuff came out though and will not be held back.

Then RH says its all wrong no crisi meeting not 100K

so it leaves some fans rather confused

but it seems asking questions on here causes out rage

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no at all Katei, asking for the facts of the meeting when they were already posted (in the very first post) might though!


whatever Rob Heys has said before or after the meeting is irrelevant, post 1 is the facts of the meeting - the bluff and bluster between the facts are also irrelevant.

Rob or any other employee of the club will always understate the true nature of things, a supporter who wishes to ensure transparency of the club and who also thinks that we are entitled to know the truth - and I agree. I'm of the opinion that I have no reason to doubt someone who has never told me a lie, and every reason to doubt the word of somebody who has publically never given a straight answer in his professional career.

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and also nobody has described it as a crisis meeting. Although it probably is. They just omitted to give it a name in their haste to arrange one

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It's the press that called it a crisis meeting

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Bloody Hell you lot dont half chat some crap.

Keep to the facts that we're provided. We owe the tax man, understandably our income is far less than our outgoings and theres a meeting on Saturday with those who 'run' the club to discuss the matter.

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i am not saying what peter has said is not true I have no reason not to believe him,as it is very well known the club has lied before but i have not known peter to lie to the fans before but i do feel that we are left reading between the lines some what

as it says we owe the taxman around 100k in the post but those who listened to the recording before it was removed(understand why it was removed) were told of other debts and other issues so what is fact?

the club owes the taxman around 100k only?or is there any other facts or is it just hear say from the rumour mill?

all im trying to do is get the true facts of what is known to date as it not the best point of information the rumour mill

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Exactly ! Excuse the pun lol that is the crux of the matter said more briefly than post 1 hahaha

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I think everybody is going round in circles now. May be best if everyone just waits to see what transpires in the next 48 hours, I'm sure given the fuss this has made an 'official' statement will be made to clear the air and confirm which ever side of the story is true.

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I just hope that all the Directors can find the venue......

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Patience is running out with football clubs and their debts.......


BBC Sport - Football - Southend United face new winding-up petition

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At least some clubs can get P.F.A. Help!!!!

BBC Sport - Football - PFA loan money to Plymouth Argyle's unpaid players

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There was an article on the other day about football debt in general
BBC Sport - Football - Football League chairman Clarke delivers debt warning

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Our future...

K_P_1670.jpg :: QPR v Accrington Stanley

in his hands.....

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Well doesn't that tell you something in its self Joe,if stanley are struggling to pay wages would it not be stanley on bbc sport with a heading PFA loan.

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They will not lend us anymore Mab..

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Totally agree RR. The whole football system is devoid of logic and full of greed. The rules hould be the same for all. Was looking at Football League rules the other day ( geek time :) ). If Stanley don't file last years accounts by the end of the month they are under a transfer embargo, as would any other league 1 & 2 club. However the Championship teams can take another 12 months :confused:

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That sounds fair, what about the P.L. Do they get another 12 mths?????

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No idea, didn't check their rules, I do have a life you know :D

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well we know we owe money to whoever it may be but hopefully the tax mans debt is some where in the middle of the 30/100k the less it is the better

fans are left shaking their heads for a few more days and wondering

my only hope is that clear information is given by all parties then we all know what hymn sheet we r singing from

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seems very unfair that clubs in higher leagues seem to be given more slack over accounts then lower clubs FL rules should be the same in all leagues ........level playing field all round

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I love this thread, what about the 40k owed to local businesses?

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It is puzzling how some think that the only possible alternative to a closed meeting in the Gazelle was to 'hunt for ages to find a venue in which a herd of Red fans would heckle and bay for blood'. I would like to know when and where this precedent for Stanley fans 'baying for blood' was set. It must have been a traumatic experience for it to have affected considerations on how to treat fan meetings in such a way. Crikey.

Anyway, this isn't about who was or who wasn't invited to a meeting (although it is all-so-easy for those invited to accuse those non-present of being jealous of an invite). To divide our fanbase over such a trivial matter would be farcical.

It's just quite clear to me and several others that this meeting was a misguided, mistimed and possibly misinformed cock-up.

For once I find myself agreeing with Katei. Until the club admits these claims, HMRC issue a winding-up order or some other creditor gets the bailiffs in, all we have is word of mouth. (That's not to knock the credibility of anyone at the meeting or giving out information.)

As Stanley fans we have learned to 'believe it when we see it'. Whether it's coming from the club or a fan nominated to the board, skepticism must be employed both ways. There's just too much crap flying about to believe it all. We can only trust original sources. It might be different for some of you, but I don't count a fan nominated to the board as an original source. And I repeat, that's not knocking anyone's stature, reputation or character.

I don't doubt that the club is in deep dogchod. It's quite clear to anyone who has come within two miles of an abacus in their lifetime that Stanley cannot support itself with the way that it is run. However, the stories are all-too-blurred and feelings are running all-too-high at the moment. It's much easier to see when the dust settles.

I'd rather wait 'til we hear from Ilyas.

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For once I find myself agreeing with Katei. Until the club admits these claims, HMRC issue a winding-up order or some other creditor gets the bailiffs in, all we have is word of mouth. (That's not to knock the credibility of anyone at the meeting or giving out information.)

thanks SM i know i did admit that i may be off my rocker in an earlier post but with this afternoons posting i really was begining to think i was lossing the plot

clear facts is what is needed in a time like this it isnt a soap drama we are talking about but its our club!

although a soap drama rights for this may get sum £££s lol

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Only time will tell if that's correct or not. However this sort of thread would have kicked off as soon as the Observer came out anyway, the denial of the debt was not as a result of the meeting, it preceded it because of rumours earlier in the week and the press started asking questions.

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So hows it go ?

Press start digging Rob says we owe £30k.

Stanley organise a quick meeting before the do do hits the fan because they haven't told anyone.

At meeting its said we owe 100k.

Paper comes out with Rob saying we owe £30k which was from days earlier.

Simples :D

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i think the 1 thing we can all agree on is nothing is ever SIMPLES with ASFC

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Probably the most factiest fact on this thread :D

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Hooray!! :p

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dave i very nearly choked on me coffee then i didnt think anything on accyweb would make me smilie today :)

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wtf, please can somebody start a new thread with some facts, if asfc want to continue as a business then somebody representing them at board level should be out and about stating facts rather than 157 useless posts by us lot.
I run my own business and I can tell you exactly what I owe, to whom and when it's due, come on Stanley give your customers some facts and lets get the fans involved in sorting out these problems, you will be surprised what can be achieved by the masses, take a look at Egypt

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Actually yours is the 158th ;)

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You are a complete wind up merchant...... :p :p :p

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glad you can count. it must be the red wine

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My club's forum is full of people who claim to have inside knowledge, others who defend the club come hell or high water and the rest who think they can manage the team better than the manager. I come here for a break :D

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Course I can count, thats why they don't ask me to do the accounts :D

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You just figured :eek: try living with him :rofl38:

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Hmm Joe @ Dave........don't sound right to me.:D

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...... And I suppose you tell all your customers this level of information eg how much profit you are taking from them etc etc? ;-)

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is this a gay thing

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:eek: This threads getting interesting :D

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Give us a kiss n i'll tell yeh.:D

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I don't want to stir up the hornet's nest, but if we weren't passionate about our Club, there wouldn't be this amount of emotion displayed in this thread ... and I don't mean last night's gay exchanges ;)

People were invited to a meeting with Peter Shaw as representatives of different sections of the Club's fanbase and so have a responsibility to report back to them.

So far, we have "the end of this month we'll owe that taxman around 100k", "we have nowt coming in", and "the difference between incomings and outgoings is massive and we won't pull it around".

The meeting lasted an hour from what has been said on here, so beyond the 10 seconds that it takes to say the above, what else is there to report?

My specific questions to our representatives at the meeting:

• Has the £250,000 PL parachute payment already been received in full and spent?
  
• If £100,000 will be owed to HMRC by the end of this month, are there other significant debts also owed that are likely to lead to court action in the short term?
  
• Have the players' wages been paid in full and on-time?
  
• Is the course of action being asked of fans (other than to support the 'Back the Boys' campaign) to wait for the decisions of the Board meeting today or to be prepared for another SOS Appeal.
  
• Were there any other courses of action available to the fans?

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questions ok, what about the answers?;)

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Disclaimer, the answers given are not 100% fact as I have no proof but can tell you what I'm aware of. Before anybody wonders why I was there, I wasn't invited, I was on chauffeur duty so I gatecrashed as there was no security on the door :)

1. I got the impression the parachute payments are paid monthly, don't know when they started or when they finish.

2. A figure of 40k was banded about, no mention of wehter that would end in court action

3. Yes and No.

4. Wait. To be honest another SOS appeal would bring in very little, I can tell you from being a supporter of another club you will get very little sympathy again as you did first time round.

5. See 4

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So far, we have "the end of this month we'll owe that taxman around 100k", "we have nowt coming in", and "the difference between incomings and outgoings is massive and we won't pull it around".

The meeting lasted an hour from what has been said on here, so beyond the 10 seconds that it takes to say the above, what else is there to report?

hmmmmmm didnt i more or less say same yesterday???

funny how yesterday it turned some OPs into more or less telling me to shut up and see post 1 but this morning there is a answer although its the OP view (he doesnt claim its fact)but at least its helpful,:rolleyes:

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Not sure I put anything in my answers that wasn't in post 1 sort of ish, just put a disclaimer and specific to the questions. :)

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Geeee shoot the messengers katei!!! We're doing our best, tho when told of debts we didn't need an itinerary of who's owed and what, about 40 grand is about 40 grand of bills that's not being paid, worryingly some small businesses are effected in that but it's not privy of us to ask, fact of the case is 40 grand is owed excluding tax man and that's all we need to know at this stage, some of that money was un necessary and the need of good management at top is a necessity in order to control outgoings. The accounts won't be filed in time as accountancy is in that amount again no figure to compute but example of required outgoings as example to what kind of bills we have.

Does that spell it out more ???

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well lets hope for two very good crowds for the next two games

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I wasnt having ago but this could of be posted yesterday when i asked all we were told in post 1 was we will owe the taxman bout 100k nothing about another 40k owed on top of that .....can you see where im coming from?

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And some dry weather :D

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hmmmm weather dont look great

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People have already said tho thats what macca was on about post 1 the outgoings are massive to the incomings, ive just purposely spelled it out bluntly:D

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no figure of 40k was posted thou and this is what i was tryin to work how much debt do we know about in total to date.......is hard to work out when information is drip fed ......

so its 100k to the taxman
another 40k to other business
but all wages have be met?

i didnt hear the recording but was told of what was in it.....so that is why i am asking to make sure it was what was said or the rumour mill again

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Saturday looks good, Tuesday looks hit and miss at the moment. Mind you the forecasters don't seem to get a lot right nowadays :D

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They are the figures mentioned yep. Wages presumably at the end of the month. Could have done with a Man Utd game next week instead of Torquay.:eek:

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I give up :(

We'll all find out the director score later this evening or tommoz by OFFICIAL people instead of rumour gossiping fans :rolleyes: I'll do my 'i tried telling you so' now then :p

Final words: P off Eric and take your muppet puppet with ya and dont let the door hit you on the way out!!

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thanks dave :)

shame we are not crawley lol

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just thought it was better to ask ppl who were there instead of taking it for gospel from fans who werent thats all

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Crawley don't need the money - they have rich backers. If only we didn't keep ours at arms length:(

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My specific questions to our representatives at the meeting:

Has the £250,000 PL parachute payment already been received in full and spent?
Some cash from parachute payments, though did not know/think it was £250k???

If £100,000 will be owed to HMRC by the end of this month, are there other significant debts also owed that are likely to lead to court action in the short term? The estimate of monies owed at the end of Feb, is in the region of £200k, taxman (wages stuff) Accountants, Mobile phone bills, local businesses, Etc.

Have the players' wages been paid in full and on-time? Yes, just late!!

Is the course of action being asked of fans (other than to support the 'Back the Boys' campaign) to wait for the decisions of the Board meeting today or to be prepared for another SOS Appeal.

Were there any other courses of action available to the fans?

Those are the things that I can remember!! Combined and the other little sponsor, have gone bank - £40k lost revenue, playing budget over spent by £200k by end of season!! There may have been other things, but I cannot recall :) :)

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Well done to Stanley today and all those who travelled to support the lads.

Going off the last 12 months and the sheer mess of the last crisis I would hope that a official written statement either by Mr. Khan, Mr. Marsden, or Mr. Hays, preferably signed by all of the board is released at the earliest possible moment. Any delays in getting the truth out in an open and transparent way will only turn people off. What's needed is a positive and clear message to the supporters of the situation and what we can do to assist the club once more; hopefully with Mr. Khan or Mr. Marsden in overall control. I don't think it is fair to expect either man to keep putting his hand in his pocket; but a major contributor or benefactor at the helm would help to draw the fans back to the crown and hopefully a secure future. But no more negative mud slinging by anyone; if the club can't be saved let us go out with dignity.

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as far as i am aware we would still have a club but may be not in league two due to losing 10 points

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here's my theory, let the company (club) go into admin after winning another 6 points (after today), receivers will try selling the business as a going concern at a vastly reduced price,EW will loose out big time ( good) Mr K will snap up up the dregs and offer shares to the crowd at £100 each
This club can't move on until the rat bedding expert curls up his toes and finally moves away from the club, lets all chip in £500 quid and the debts gone ! (it's the price of a good season ticket at DingleLand)

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How about finding out where the 35K went which the said people helped you raise last time ;)

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All that concerns me at this moment is that we still have a league club.:eek:

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start new club up in northwest counties new ground away from crown lev ew don there with it . 2011-12 new start . stick of all this crap now head massed to much bull hits on here let the don hav it ew too . 0ver 40 years to get bk gone in less than 10 thanks don ew for

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So do I cashy hope it resoluted soon, tho don't know how long I can 'brace' myself for :eek:

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worse than waiting for a baby's arrival this - reckon it could be Monday earliest before any official statement. If nowt said before Crewe I'll be worried about lightning striking twice in 49 years ! Lets hope it turns out to be a 'new birth', eh.

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Hadn't thought about that, LLS. Crewe, March 2nd 1962. Hope history doesn't repeat itself. :eek:

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I think there's more chance of lightning physically striking than any other coincidence they are playing Crewe next :)

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In 62 they closed the door....
...I was there, 10 years old, and skriked my eyes out.

We would have died but for Jack Barret, Jimmy Hinksman.....
....and a small band of Stanley legendary fans.

In 72 I played a few games for the reserves......
....I was too soft in the tackle but was good at hurdling!

Last season we nearly went again but for Ilyas.....
....and now we're struggling once again.

We can blame who we want...... but please, please, please.....
..... let's stick together and keep our famous club together.

Long term, let's trust that Ilyas has a plan....
...Short term we need some brass...

So why don't we all try to treble the gate at our next two home games....
..... by bringing two friends each and make them fully fledged Ultras so that they have to SING and SHOUT proper SUPPORT for the lads on the pitch and for Coley and Jimmy
ON STANLEY ON