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Good on yer Choirboy.:);)
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What puzzles me is this, Eric Whalley , IF he still owns Stanley then how come he moved to Chester ?
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Does Eric still own the club, seems he's not even the majority shareholder now even though he owns the shares he sold to DON. ? Clear as mud :confused: |
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can we not ban ew from the ground and the don . like fans can get off the club
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Is that the now Defunct Chester City???
Was'nt he also at Great Harwood Town Before they folded :mad: |
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Changed the keys to is prawn box . Kick him out kick him out . Don only cums when we hav a game so tell him its off
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Just like EW son Russell did a couple of years ago to the fans, "your name's not down so you're not coming in". |
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you can cum in if you give 51% rob and on you way out after crewe game do not cum back . ew keep away.
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Update now on fishy site
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A little snippet from the story:-
The Directors are currently considering a number of options and a further update will be provided in due course. A share option, would be one way forward, in my opinion... |
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The following is from ASFC news;
The information and evidence that was presented shows, without question, that the shareholder register as submitted to Company’s House is incorrect. The board have therefore resolved to update the company’s books and bring the formal registration into line with the facts. These will show that Mr Eric Whalley is not, and has not been for some considerable time, the majority shareholder of ASFC Limited. Interesting!!! |
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So all that has been clarified really is that our income is a hundred grand down on what was projected at the start of the season, and that Eric isn't the majority shareholder. No clarification on who rightfully owns that percentage. No mention of debts or plans for administration yet. Hopefully these matters and some of the stories from the Gazelle meeting will be cleared up soon.
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I wasn't suggesting the share isn't isn't the right thing, just not going to raise thousands by next week :) |
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In the meantime everyone at the club would like to reach out and ask for the support of all fans and the community in and around Accrington. The club currently has a squad that is capable of pushing on for honours, and our Chairman, Ilyas Khan, reminds us that we have faced bigger obstacles in the past, but have overcome them when we present a united front. The best thing that you can do is turn up to the home games and shout loud and stand proud.” The last two paragraphs are sort of there Shaker!! One of the things that I know/have learnt about IK, is, if there is nowt to say, then he says nowt, therefore I would think that at the moment, there is nowt more to say, the ball - as they say - is well and truely in Mr. Whalleys' court and I do not think he can return it!!! IK has said in the past, that it may take time, so we must back him, believe in him and he will not let us down!!!!! :) :) :) |
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I just hoped that with the somewhat radical claims that were made this week regarding large debts to her majesty and the phone company, amongst others, something might have been stated to clear those up. However, as we know already, we can all set our watches by Ilyas as far as honesty is concerned. :) |
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Am I the only person that missed "the sad demise of the shirt sponsor"? That's twice in what, 3 seasons?
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So it wasn't a doom and gloom board meeting after all,on stanley on:)
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I believe Combined Stabilisation are currently in administration, or at least thats what I been told. I don't know where to check it to see if its true!
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So please do correct me if I am wrong, but what exactly have we to brace ourselves for? OK we are £100K short of cash than was projected, I know it is probably asking a lot, but will Mr Khan bail us out of the mire again to ease through these problems. And as stated on the fishy site, get everyone back to the Crown to support the team! From reading the statement on the website, it is good to see the 'books' are finally sorted and that the cardboard person is NOT the majority (over 50%) shareholder. Time to go now Eric. You were once revered, now you and yours are just a laughing stock. Also take your puppet with you or if he has any sense, walk away and do not come back.
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I think it's also been mentioned that the company who do the perimeter boards have also gone
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Guys, yes, poor old Combined Stabilisation have, apparently, not been able to fulfill their obligations under the sponsorship agreement. Its unfortunate, but these are tough times for business, no question about it. We hope that the management of CS might be able to find a way to retain the link with the Club.
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'ow do, Ilyas, great to see you back! Could you tell us any more about the present situation?
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Think it would be great now to have the official clarification on things like current finances
that were brought up in the mini meeting last wed nite as some of us that did duely passed the word on have been made to look like gossip mongerers without back up now :( |
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Now if only a local company could come up with a method of re-applying a different name to the front of the shirts for each match and getting a different shirt sponsor each match to cough up an amount of money per game :)
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I am sorry that i have not been posting on this bulletin board, but the situation at the Club has not been easy to describe without compromising on-going investigations. On that point, therefore, I will ask for your continued patience. I will, as always, try to give you full disclosure, and I hope that might be possible very soon.
I just thought for today that since the CS sponsorship is not paid up, we could clarify that. Also, the shareholding situation is now cleared by the board, and i have no problem talking about that as well. The club's finances are clearly strained, and I think it best to ensure that we wait for official updates rather than speculating. In the meantime, please please try to do what you can for the club by turning up to the games. The sponsorship per game idea for the shirts is a very good idea. i wonder if it could work ? |
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Was it West Ham who lost their sponsor and had that horrendous black square on the shirts to cover it up ?
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I quite the black square you have as your avatar, that would look ok.;)
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So please do correct me if I am wrong, but what exactly have we to brace ourselves for? OK we are £100K short of cash than was projected, I know it is probably asking a lot, but will Mr Khan bail us out of the mire again to ease through these problems. And as stated on the fishy site, get everyone back to the Crown to support the team! From reading the statement on the website, it is good to see the 'books' are finally sorted and that the cardboard person is NOT the majority (over 50%) shareholder. Time to go now Eric. You were once revered, now you and yours are just a laughing stock. Also take your puppet with you or if he has any sense, walk away and do not come back.
That is income OO, outgoings are over budget also, so the figure is well over the £100K mentioned... Ilyas, WILL NOT bail of the current regime, that is fact!!! This is the most poignant part of your post OO, just hope that the clowns can read and understand!!!! |
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How does shirt sponsorship by game work? Thats a hell of alot of shirts wasted through the season...
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The key aspect of the statement is that the club now has a much clearer picture of who is in precisely what legal position with regard to ownership and creditor status. This puts the board in a much stronger position. It is no longer obliged to take unsubstantiated claims at face value – we have the weight of legal opinion on our side.
We once again owe Ilyas and Peter a debt of thanks for their diligence and professionalism in sorting this out. I have a proposition. Since Combined Stabilisation has sadly gone into liquidation, there is a vacancy on the hallowed scarlet. In the absence of any other offers, why not put Leonard Cheshire Disability on the shirt? I’d understand it if dedicated collectors feel that it is asking too much, obliging them as it is to buy two versions in one season. But just a thought. Perhaps save it for the play-off final? ;) |
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But, on the flip side fc, it's a hell of alot of extra shirt sales ;):p :p
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I wasn't thinking of them being sold for each sponsor, I reckon that wouldn't be practical :D If you apply the sponsors name in a straight forward manner with no fancy logo it could be removed and replaced on the same shirt. Hard work & organisation would be the key rather than a numerous amount of shirts |
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The company currently doing the stuff should be able to supply it to them, all they need is somebody at the club to stick them on and remove them again |
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Could we do both? Have LCD as the main shirt sponsor and have a new business for each game pay to apply their name onto the back of the jersey? That way we honour LCD and also get the cash from sponsors (not to mention new business links) that's so desperately needed. |
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i dont know if all the Match Sponsors have been sold or not but that might be a way of 'securing' the deal. A few extra quid perhaps as well
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:) Looking at it,its sponsor for the remander of this current season ss their is a short fall with Combined Stabilisation are now in liquidation :(!! Think we'l find Stanley have a new shirt sponsor for next season:)
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Well i thought the board was gonna be full of postings about saving the club losing 10points for admin who is owed what etc.....
We are short of 100k due to a bad December and another company struggling ......not 100k due to the taxman,surely with the clubs history with tax payments if it was anywhere near this amount a winding up order would of be issued,like Southend had when they missed a tax payment for £15/20,000,not sure on the amount but was something like that,as there is no winding up order ill take it as we owe this 100k out to other companies as well as the taxman,think we can all sleep tonight. Its a sticky patch,i would think most league two clubs go through when they have a bad month,all businesses have unpaid bills its how businesses work. Not making out its nothing to worry about but its not as dark as was first thought,thankfully! Its no good us to try and keep guessing who is owed what etc.......Ilyas will keep us dated im sure there cant be anymore he wishes for fans to know otherwise it would of be in the statement(i take it Ilyas approved the statement?) I am sure that we will see marked improvement in the running of the club in the months to come now the ownership issue is in hand,although who is the major holder of shares would be good to know. It will be good to see all those peoples who paid out for the shares during the SOS will finally be offical shareholders at companies house. I would say back any plans the board has to make up the 100k shortfall,I am sure Ilyas and co will not approve any plan/ideas if they do not believe they will work for both the fans and the clubs. I see this as a win win for us all the fans can start to have some trust in their club and the club can make this short fall up and push for the play offs. Lets do what us fans do best and "Back The Boys" |
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Folks as good as it would be to have a "new/different" sponsor on the shirts for each game, here are the realaties/practicalaties (sorry:)) Logos won't come off. So each shirt will be a one off. How many do you make?? What's Coley's squad?? Each one needs a name, number and FL N power badge. ALL THESE HAVE TO BE PAID FOR IN ADVANCE!!! So do you do every squad player a shirt every game??? And another new one for Tuesday and another new one for Saturday?? Finally at £40 per time, how many shirts has Lew got in his shop???:eek:
not trying to be negative, but IF you want to BACK THE BOYS, sponsor the game, sponsor the match ball, enjoy the FANtastic day in the Lounge, but most importantly back Coley and OUR TOWN TEAM!!!:) |
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cud we not just have a4 posters of the company fasted on wiv safety pins lol :O) joking we need a laff after the last few days
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think he means instead of having a companys name on the shirt what has gone bust not the charity paying the club to have their name on the shirts but i could be wrong........think its villa who do it with little accorns childrens hospice on their shirts .......
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I think the shirt idea is a really good idea
It would increase awareness locally as well as nationally with exposure on the FL Show of the Charity A percentage of shirt sales could be donated to the Charity It may also encourage extra shirt sales |
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sounds a nice idea but.......we need to get money into the club
in no way is this a pop at charites especially disabled 1s as i have son who is multi disabled and a special needs child |
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Far more complex than it needs to be Mr T. :) I suggested it as a method of raising a few extra quid per home game £100/£200 per game perhaps just for the home games remaining. I don't think it's feasable as a venture for the club shop for extra shirt sales, it would become too costly an exercise and not at all practical for the timescale left this season. Having suggested the original idea I think Shaker's idea is the best way of doing it. Ironically Leonard Cheshire's logo is white on a red background :) |
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I defiantly wouldn't sponsor a match at stanley, a few weeks back i went to one where my cousins company had sponsored and had payed good money for. I havent seen anything so amateurishness and so un private lounge about it. I hope people do keep sponsoring things but i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't! At least were not going into admin (hopefully) and illiays can steady the ship and bring good to the club for the coming future and to put someone who knows how to run a club incharge instead of a dodgy camera man. ON STANLEY ON. |
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F.C.Stanley has raised a very valid point IMHO, local sponsors will be very difficult to raise at the moment, as well as the present climate, know of a couple at least who will have sod all to do wi our club whilst certain people remain on the scene,:eek: sad but true, i also hope sincerely sponsors can be found,
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how could the club make it better thought FC stanley ???
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just to expand on the shirt per game idea, if it was known in advance, and a company paid summat extra then whoever sponsors a game can have their logo on, it would cost the club 25 x shirts at cost + the logo printing. £300 maybe? I dunno, but if I had a company and was willing to pay the cost for sponsoring a match I'd deffo pay that extra for the name on the kit. Match sponsor gets the Man of the Match shirt for his office wall and the rest are auctioned off in the clubhouse/ebay. Leonard Cheshire could be the 'normal' sponsor that appears on replica kits and match kit that has no sponsor. It'd certainly be unique I reckon and would draw some positive publicity |
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Good to hear from Ilyas and for him to clear up some of our worries.:) Like I said earlier;Trust in Ilyas - he has a plan but as he has said we need to be patient.:mosher:
Katie, I thought that the clubs "sticky patch" was that muddy square in front of the dugout that is causing our postponements.:(:( Talking of "squares", we could adopt the black square logo for our AWAY kit and get Mr Whalley to sponsor us for either £308K or any stake that he still has in the club.:p:p:p Bring a couple of friends on Tuesday and swell the gate - bring in the cash and the extra fans that we need. ON STANLEY ON.:cheers::balloon::balloon::balloon::balloon: |
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A possible other idea would be a raffle aimed at local businesses to win shirt sponsorship,for the remainder of the season,thus hopefully building bridges,and spreading the word that EW is no longer !!
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Also what are the FL rules on shirt sponsorshirt?Can we have a main shirt sponsor,even if it is a charity then a guest sponsor for each game? The club dont want to offer something they then cant deliver on. Something what has always puzzled me is why not close the clubhouse before the game at least for the match sponsors,that way it is a private area for the good money they have paid out?We have a second venue The Crown Pub for the fans,how many fans really use the club house before a game,would the club really lose all that much?after all they would just go up to the steps to The Crown Pub. While visting FTFC i couldnt help but notice how busy there cubby hole shop by the doors in the clubhouse (they say its a clubhouse,over 20 screens,even in the loos!was more like a wine bar very posh!) was,simple set up 1 of each item displayed on boards with clear prices,is this something what could be set up in our pub on match day? Im sure items would be sold as away fans do use the pub,may be do it till the end of the season and see how well it goes down? Again staffing may be a problem thought Just another thought can the club not form a partnership with a local charity?like supermarkets do, fans can vote for the charity of the season?Im not sure how the ins and outs work on this but is it something for the club to look into for the 2011/12 season? |
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these are really great ideas. thank you so much for this constructive feedback. every penny counts, and as your chairman i can confirm that each penny that is raised through sponsorship or other income will go directly to the club's activities. None of it will be used or remitted in any way other than for backing the team in its quest to advance. With an independent external director now on the board, and with full transparency of the accounts, you can sure that your pennies and pounds dont go astray. With the shirt sponsorship I am sure that there will be a way for the club to use the opportunity for some redress. Perhaps not the amounts that have been lost, but at least some amount.
also, i have noted that people have mentioned their SOS share subscription still not being delivered (with the shirts, right ?) can i please request that you email Rob and cc me with your outstanding queries. please please get in touch. We will do our best to square this outstanding item off as well. thanks a lot for the positive feedback. its at times like this that we need all the help. |
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oh well scrap that idea then....brainstorming may be not my thing then
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. Nothing whatsoever to do with a previous posting !!!...
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its been said many many times over the last few years but the clubhouse is the biggest dissapointment in terms of income generation that we have.
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True point, the clubhouse did get a makeover but needs a professional job [i'll not go into the bad debate of that] but the roof needs sorting, ceiling needs doing properly and new bar :D |
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Yeh i think the same on that utilising the college for the many areas of help for the club and the students, also that brings in the ideas and students get a bit of work exp too for their cv and towards their grades and club get many helpers. |
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there is many areas the college could partner up with and it may get a few students coming back on match day :)
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fleetwood town have a club house the likes of Man U Liverpool etc....would b proud of but the tvs in the loos are a step too far lol
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Not just the college, there is a very large training group in Accrington, NLTG, who are always looking for work experience situations
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the club has done that in the past to some extents with the media students from UCLAN getting involved with the programme etc but it could and should be rolled out (to the local college).
Catering staff to be hired as and when. Media students - various projects such as making adverts, broadcasts, promo leaflets Construction - more than speaks for itself Business studies, art/fashion - could merge a few departments together to work on a specific project. For example, design a new range of merchandise. Research whats required/wanted, design it, source outlets to sell it, product to market. there are loads of ideas for practically every department within the college |
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What is great, is that this thread has a more positive feel about it now and long may it continue. Great to see the post by Ilyas and hopefully, the club can now go from strength to strength. Just hope the pitch is up to it Tuesday night.
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is it possible to moved the ideas posts to a new thread???
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Agree this is very positive and the lift of spirit , BUT has Eric Whalley gone? is he going ?
lets not rush ahead of ourselves here , with that man around things may not go to plan. Now then before both Fulham and Newcastle games there were stands at bottom of steps ( from Crown ) selling merchandise, it was manned with a couple of our own teenage fans, maybe this could be done at EVERY home match ,cost nothing and may bring in some needed cash,nothing ventured , nothing gained. |
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Once again more & more good ideas coming through
I would imagine some of it is not here & now stuff as with limited staff perhaps then having to deal with taking on work placement demands a good degree of supervisory committment or is that something that the College provides? The Clubhouse as we all agree needs a major re-vamp and more utilisation than it currently gets and maybe the Summer is the time for that when things are a bit quieter and jobs can be started and worked on properly? The kids selling the merchandise is a great idea and on my trips to Anfield which ever direction you go to get into the ground there are a plethora of stalls selling merchandise. I think first and foremost it's a case of learning to do the basic fundamentals in a satisfactory way, we have had so many false dawns over the last few years it is a case of going back to basics, getting on the knocker for sponsors, looking at ticket initiatives to bring more to the Crown than what currently come and ensuring we do that right and then we have a platform for people to come on to games and want to keep coming back. It's a slow process but hopefully the train is now moving back in the right direction. |
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Lew has worked hard with the ticket offers,but I think some season ticket holders feel abit short changed understandable if they pay out at the begining of season then non season ticket holders are getting great offers,this is no way a dig at the offers anything what brings in more fans is great just think the club shouldnt forget the season ticket holders when making ticket offers,some feel the club has taken their money pre season then forgotton about them.
The kids selling stuff is good as long as they know what they are doing,I have over heard a couple of cheeky programme sellers be rather rude to away fans when they dont buy a programme off them. This is a great time of year for the club to start talking to the college to put in place something for the new sept term. I know the commuity team were hoping to run some groups in the club house when i spoke to them at the back boys meeting ideas were in the very early stages toddler groups and some thing for the over 60s not sure if these ideas ever took off or are still going ahead. Also can the drinks offers what run at clubhouse not also run at the crown?im guessing it all goes to the club where ever you drink clubhouse/crown? I think the one thing everyone at the club needs to do is not say something will happen to whoever this might be colleges local businesses fans etc if they cant deliver, Dont make promises that cant be kept,I would rather be told no than be let down. |
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one season ticket holder here, dont feel short changed kate, anything helps wi the crap were in is fine wi me.;)
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I am currently working on the project and the community trust will update through their website when the project is up and running. If you want to check out the website, please click on my signature and have a mooch round at some of the stuff we are doing. |
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Season ticket holders 4,5&6 here! If you take the value of the vouchers off the cost of our three season tickets, they cost us just £50 for all three of us, you won't find me complaining!!!
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No complaints here, plus Fatgaz makes a good point on the prices.
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