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It's April, we are playing well, some dark clouds have lifted, FANs are - in the main - in jubilant mood :)

Where are the season tickets?????

Come on Stanley, strike while it's hot!!!!!!

:) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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Stanley will announce the season ticket prices as soon as it has been approved by the board and the links that was found was a work in progress artwork for when the prices was agreed so could be altered for being put live but was put in desktop slides by error (human we all make errors) & will be put right and live in due course, check fishy site for details. Maybe we need a contact webmaster for errors on webby in case incidents like this happen again so they can be altered and reported, as a suggestion.

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Oh eck

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A..._H_HkMS97PVV0g

:rofl38::rofl38:

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Prices for next season:

Adult - £255 (up to 30th April); £285 afterwards ... last year the prices were £185 seated/£160 standing (before 4 May); £230/£207 afterwards
Senior - £170 (up to 30th April); £190 afterwards
U17/student - £90 (no early bird discount)

No difference in prices for seated/standing, which makes sense.

However, that's a hefty increase in prices for season tickets and presumably match-day prices as well. Given the current financial state of the Club, it does make sense, but I'm sure it will put off a lot of people unless we do get promoted to League 1.

http://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/g...20template.pdf

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Once again Im going to have to go pay on the gate, as I am unable to know when Im working away or not. Well done on the packages mind you !!

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Forgot to add that there is a £50 surcharge ('Lounge Pack') to be able to use the sports bar on matchday.

That is definitely a step too far IMO and will seriously deprive the Club of money earned over the bar and a sense of 'togetherness' between the Club and its fans. So much for this being the dawn of a new, community Club :(

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thinking that promotion might be the only saving grace on those prices :(

at the standard price (£30 aint an incentive to pay early IMHO) it works out at £12.91 per game for Clayton End. Would you buy a season ticket to save 9p a game? or £2.09 per game? I'm thinking that there will be a whopping big price increase for walk-ons as well. :(

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reading between the lines, and I might be wrong because its not entirely clear, that is to go in the bit behind the sectioned off area? but would you want to do that whilst people are eating and you aren't?

seems to have been a few dropped balls if you ask me.

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"The match day experience usually involves a pie and a pint so why not enjoy the day by grabbing the early game on the big screen while soaking up the atmosphere in our exclusive lounge.

Seasonal access to the matchday lounge will be just £50 next year."

Surely that the clubhouse and not just the sectioned off area?

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Clearly not thought out whatsoever, we had the clubhouse shut exclusively for sponsors which went down like a lead balloon - so will that stupid idea for reasons whalley red & macca have stated.

Back to season ticket prices.........can i afford it mmm - any clarification on gate prices next year which i presume will be £17 mark as was proposed this season if they hadnt of ballsed that up at start, again....dunno

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Matchday prices will depend on which league we are in, so I wouldn't expect any news on that for (hopefully) at least another month.

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judging by the statement that you are getting at least six games for free (with a ST) then the MINIMUM is going to be £16.28 based on Clayton End. I'll catagorically state now that any potential floating fans will wide berth The Crown next season and we could see sub 1000 gates again.

I've just been having a look around at other season ticket prices around the league and we still seem competitive, which will be the clubs justification on this. However at the other grounds you get things like lighting, and covered concourses, and flushing toilets that aren't built into a urine soaked garden shed, and real beer outta pump thrown in with the price.

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Its the people that support higher ranked clubs locally that will snub it, like my bro who repeatedly tries to tell me for simular/sometimes cheaper price he can watch a [so called] premiership team footy, then u wont be coaxing the armchair lot out either. Its those people - new folk that need to be caputilised to our club reducing the man utd's & other popular team support ahead of home town support.

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Thats the biggest complaint im hearing many a time atm, is the beer at the clubhouse a major factor to whether people dare to drink in the clubhouse [im lucky being a shorts person] but regular hardcore loyal fans are not happy with the beer, lucky selling halfs than pints there atm, if the clubhouse is surcharging entry then the bar has to be really upto scratch.

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I can understand an increase in price, I dont think anybody would argue with that. Its the extent of the increase that leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. An increase of £95 on last years ticket price of £160 is extortionate pure and simple. We have probably shot ourselves in the foot with this idea I think. We need as many fans as we can get and this pricing strategy is clearly at odds with this. We are currently at a stage where have managed to get a few more fans in on Tuesday night due to a cheap ticket offer. This doesn't automatically mean that they will come back to pay full price, especially when Burnley are at home on the same day as the Oxford game. We are putting up barriers to bringing in new fans by making games all ticket this will reduce the chances of roaming fans coming on due to the hassle of buying tickets in advance, we are then increasing season ticket prices by 63% to current fans and then demanding the money within 23 days, not forgetting trying to charge them to enter a bar that is for supporters and finally looking to increase matchday prices. How are all the things going to entice people to come on?

The charge for going into the supporters lounge is quite bizarre, why not just close it to the public and open it for commercial hospitality only. To charge supporters to go into a supporters lounge is downright cheeky, surely it makes sense to not charge and get people in there to put money behind the bar or just tell them to use the Crown to keep people putting money into the coffers. People will probably just vote with their feet and drink elsewhere further down the road.

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Agree that charging to go into the supporters lounge is bizarre.

I also don't get the Gold Bond package. Surely it's £1 per week so how can paying £50 save you 1 month's subscription? Am I missing something?

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last time i checked the gold bond thingy it said it was 4.64 a month by direct debit, which is 55 summat.

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Well that would make sense - I need to double check my direct debits. At least that part of the price makes sense.

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cos it's all doom and gloom I thought I'd point out the good things about it - can't have all negativety or else Mark'll be on shouting at us again :D

the pre-pay thingy is a great idea :rolleyes: Basically you can add money to your 'account' at any point and roll it up 'until you've enough put aside to buy something you want. It's credit Jim, but not as we know it. Should've been shouted out loud a long time ago.

offering other things at a slight discount alongside the ST. Alright I don't like what some of them are but it makes sense to offer them at the same time. Would have worked better though if we did have installment options.

The presentation of the online brochure is quite good.



:):):):):):):)

It's all good - except the prices :enough:

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The pre pay thing has been around for a while Rob, I just don't think most of us even gave it more than a cursory glance due to the prospect of the cardboard one doing one with our savings jar!!!

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I didnt know about it so wasnt well advertised :confused: would of been handy to save up for a season ticket or merchandise, but as sparkie says the ownership debarkle would of made many think twice, but now its too late also.

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I guess season ticket prices had to go up eventually,maybe too much at this stage given the timing of trying to get the fans back on side after years of peeing them off.

Not only is the clubhouse thing a complete own goal, it's also an insult to the supporters whose money has helped to maintain it when the club couldn't :rolleyes:

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A large increase in prices was inevitable IMO. You can't survive on the lowest prices and the lowest attendances in any league.

For all that we can blame EW & DON for doing nothing when the taxman was about to close us down, the simple fact is that we don't generate enough revenue and the cheap prices have failed to generate the attendances that we need to maintain them and pay our creditors (and even the players). We can't keep relying on Ilyas to pay our debts.

The attendance at Tuesday's game was promising, but there were only 590 more people in attendance than the previous Wednesday and we were charging £5 and not £13/15 ... it doesn't take too much working out to see that our total gate receipts would have been lower than the previous week.

Coley needs a decent budget and the players need to be rewarded for playing the best football I have seen at the Crown Ground in my 25 years here. In pure entertainment terms, if we see our team continue to play like this, it is still great value. I'll be renewing my season ticket, no question.

However, it is the £50 to use the clubhouse on matchdays that irks me. I think Mark (or someone else from the Club) should clarify this issue. Presumably, you have to be a member of the 'Matchday Club' to gain access, so that means if I bring my son or some friends, then I could go and 'soak up the atmosphere' inside, but they would have to wait outside. Ridiculous! Similarly, now that EW and (shortly) DON have gone, I want to spend more money in the Stanley bar and not elsewhere, but I won't be paying this £50 on principle. As I said earlier, this particular action is not one of a 'Community Club'.

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whilst it might be fair to suggest that by charging considerably more they can afford to lose fans, it is ridiculous that at a time when the club is now in a position to really push on with positive news and actions they are willing to push more fans away.

assuming that there are around 400 adult season ticket holder (purely guess work) at the moment who paid the £160 last year then only 255 need to do it this time around to maintain the same figures. I reckon they will make an increase on turnover this time around but the percent increase compared to the number of fans lost isn't worth considering. Here and on facebook, and via text messages I reckon 90% are appalled by these prices, many will pay it anyway but I can see about 30% not bothering. A lot will then depend on the walk on prices as to whether the club can keep hold of those fans.

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And the point of keeping on gates reasonable is that's the income that ticks over each week should unexpected should crop up, least those of us who can't afford to shell out over £200 can still come along on a game per game basis.

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HOW MUCH!!! lol

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On reflection maybe the £50 clubhouse pass is the clubs way of getting rid of it's unfortunate 'tinpot' image.

If you make sure the clubhouse is only accessible to the well off posh people it's raises the clientele level and gets rid of the 'tinpot' fans :D

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I'm afraid that we won't be renewing ours, its just not financially possible :(

Granted, both of us were students last year, however I had decided that we would have renewed at the non discounted rate this coming season, but unfortunately the price increase is just too much. To top it off, if as seems logical, the walk on price is increased in line with the ST, then it is highly unlikely that we,as a family, will be able to afford to go full stop.

It's a pity, however I can understand the clubs reasoning, and feel that due to past miss dealings, and inorder to become self sustaining, the club is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

I shan't even start on the 'add-ons' lol.

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Some tin pot fans will be down at the oaklea :p

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I must admit im quite frankly amazed by the prices being charged for season tickets next season.

Times are still very tough, and to hike the price by such a percentage is massively short sighted.

The clubhouse thing doesnt bothar me as i prefer the crown with the rest of the lads.

Just to put it into perspective, my mate paid £249 for a rovers season ticket for next year, how the hell are we supposed to compete by charging £250. And thats the early bird price?! Im sorry but i simply cannot afford to find that money in just over 3 weeks.

Maybe just Maybe if we had an improvement in facilities, then it would be worth it, but for a 2 sided ground surrounded by a collection of portakabins just doesnt give me value for money for £250.

As much as i believe how magnificent coley & the lads have been this season i for cannot warrant such a hike in prices, be it in league 1 or 2.

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Too right they will. Fifty quid to go in the chuffin' clubhouse? I'd expect free champagne and caviar served by Playboy Bunnies for that price! ;)

Join the ASFC Tinpot Tendency here! :bar:

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Best post on thread, the regulars who can afford will still come, no doubt, there will also be regulars who can't afford it, but the main thing in my mind, is to attract occasionals to become regulars, this is nowt but a "MASSIVE" own goal n will attract very few,if any. n i would be sued or banned,if i said what i honestly think of the £50 clubhouse charge, i honestly thought a big attempt would be made to re-build trust, seems not.:mad:

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Just when I've returned to the fold, me and my two lads have been priced out of going, sorry too much too soon.

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I will Not Be buying a season ticket at that price . I can't get to a lot of matches as it is , So i will start paying on the gate again .

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I am nothing short of amazed and disgusted in the price increases

I understand figures need to balance etc. and business's need to adjust but so are peoples pockets and their disposable income with this there is no middle ground in terms of length of time to pay or realistic percentage price increase that will act as an incentive.

I am sure as others say this will lead to less renewals & less walk on's at a time where we need to be building on the support that already exists.

As BDC points out 63% is unjustified in the present economic climate given we also have till the end of the month to renew as well a real double whammy.

I would urge a re-think on the ticket prices

As for the Lounge well that just makes me seethe have a look at Macc tomorrow night to see how to make a Clubhouse/Lounge work

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Have you fallen out with Hooters ? :D

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Senior citizen now, Dave (which is why I can still afford a season ticket!)...been advised by my physician against over-excitement. ;)

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Well said Pendle.

Macc Town's clubhouse experience is superb.

Just when we start to see light at the end of tunnel, BOOM ! :(

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They call it the 'matchday lounge'
Is this the 'gazelle' lounge, or the clubhouse bar?
If it really is the bar, a massive mistake!
I'm lucky that I am over 60, so not an unmanageable increase for me, but the the four friends I attend with will probably not be renewing, let alone pay 50 quid for the privilege of buying two drinks before the game, & one at half time. We only went into the main stand (from Clayton end) so we could get a half decent drink at half time.
Work it out, guys, loss of bar revenue from us five, an average of around £45/50 per game, x 23 games?
Marketing have really shot themselves in the foot this time, not properly thought out the potential consequences!

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To be honest I was expecting the post-early bird offer to be around £250-£260, with the early bird at around £220. I was taking into account the VAT increase as well as the failures that the £6/per game season tickets were (in terms of getting in money/new fans to the club). So a bit of a surprise but not 'disgusted' as some are!

I suppose it's all relative for our individual circumstances; £255 is not that painful a price for me at the moment (luckily) as I don't run a car or have kids or too many big outlays. I did hope but not expect a 'renewal' quote separate from the early bird.

I don't think many will buy after the early bird offer though, if any, unless we ride the wave of play-off success. But overall I think the price hike was inevitable and a brave but ultimately sensible move for the club. Hopefully good offers will come in from the start of the season for walk-ons.

I'll be renewing.

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Certainly brave, only time will tell.

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I think most people expected an increase & will eventually decide it is still worth renewing, but what seems to stick in the throat is this 50 quid to be able to use the bar.
Unless, as I said earlier the 'Matchday Lounge' is the new name for the old 'Gazelle', rather than the 'Buy the House' lounge, AKA the clubhouse bar.
I might be a little thick, but, having read & reread the 'brochure', I still think a little clarification is called for.

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it is relative n was inevitable, i will also be renewing, that aint the issue, its too much percentage wise rise when yer trying to get new faces, if in fact they really are?:confused: n what do yeh say about the £50 insult? cos thats what it is to those who funded its decoration.:mad: whilst they had to increase, no argument, this is stupidity personified.

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I can't see it being the Gazelle unless they have something else planned for visitors such as league officials, other club managers etc.

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Who out of you complaining about being unable to use the sports bar have actually used it lately? :D Only joshing!!!!

I think that's it. It just needs clearing up.

Perhaps they (the commercial folk) want to direct the masses to the Crown? Just an idea.

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it would also have been good sense to publish "Turnstile" prices fer next season surely? not very professional.:rolleyes:

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The Gazelle lounge is no longer called the Gazelle lounge it changed earlier on this season to 'The Founder Members Lounge'. They may well be changing it again but I can't see it!!

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But we can't go in the Crown at half time!

In fact, there are a lot more places we could go to for a pre-match drink, rather than the over-crowded Crown.

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I reckon its going to be £15 pay on the gate by working it out like this
If you divide the full price of £285 by £15, that comes to 19
theres 23 home games so that means you have got 4 free
pay early and you save £30, thats the other 2 free games
it says on the brochure "up to 6 free games"

Could be wrong though

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Since when did Accy & professional appear in same sentence? Apart from players, of course!

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The club has to find £32K per month to pay the tax man. After we have paid them we can start paying every body else. if the average gate receipt per person is £10 (takes into account consessions) the club takes £32000 at the gate on a reasonable average game. Do the maths we can't afford to give away entry to the gronud . We play 23 home games during a nine month period and then there is a 3 month lull where there are no revenue opportunities people still need paying during this period.

The only thing that suprises me about the season ticket prices is that people are suprised at the increase. It isn't like getting a season ticket in April/May is a new idea, surely most of you knew you would have to have a couple of hundred quid put aside around this time in anticipation of season tickets coming up for sale?

In my experience of following the club away, many other clubs make a charge to go in their sports bars. Unless I am mistaken the Crown is still run by the club isn't it that will still bee free entry I assume.

I am glad I am not involved in running or financing the club because after reading this it would appear that the majority of people in Accy think the place is a charity. Especially all the free loaders who turned up on Tuesday night and who won't be seen again until the next freebie.

We nearly went bust 18 months ago because people will not pay the going rate to see Accy play, it is tragic.

I would pay to see this group of players playing 5 a-side on Highams. Get real everyone and get ypuour hands in your pockets and support the club you love (its only the oprice of a few pints)

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Is this another attempt at encouraging the floating supporter :rolleyes:

It wasn't free anyway it was £5 :)

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League 2 2011/12 Matchday prices

Adults - £16 (£15 if bought before match day)
Concessions - £11 (£10 if bought before match day)
Students and U16's - £6 (£5 if bought before match day)
Under 12's - £1 (free admission for Junior Redz members)


Might as well not bother with the season ticket I'll easy miss 5 games a season and even if I didn't the saving doesn't warrant having to shell out so much up front. Top that off with the fact that on the day promotions will undoubtedly occur at least twice next season and my reward for getting a season ticket would be >£25. Had a season ticket for the last 3 years despite not being able to get to most of the matches it will be a shame.

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Experience has shown it is actually a statement of fact, We let people in for free against Torquay in our first season back in the league. Where have they been for the last 5 seasons. My point stands alot of people think Accrington Stanley is a charity for their benefit alone.

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Sorry, mate, this is an insult to 99% of us.
Please re-read your post, & amend if you think differently.

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If the cap fits wear it, you didn't complain about the charity of other fans in November 2009. Perhaps those of us have Stanley as a second club should leave you to it :confused:

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You need to get your head straight pal a lot of people have done a hell of a lot for this club and you are insulting every last one of them.

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Since when have we had 3200 gates?

Seems like Guantanmo bay is not kept up to date on local football news!!

I would also pay to see 'em on Highams, but that is never gonna happen in my lifetime!!

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I dont think people have a problem with a price increase, we all probably expected a rise of a possibly £40 on the early bird prices but an increase of £100 to find in 23 days is a bit more difficult. Nobody has said it is a new idea to renew in April either so I dont understand what point you are trying to make :confused: The price increase will have the opposite effect of what the club need, less people will turn up. Surely getting more bums on seats helps increase overall money into the coffers via merchandise, programmes, beer sales etc.

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Aren't we all!!
Let's leave to IK, hopefully do a much better job than you can, judging by your post!

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You are missing the point, There are about 70-80,000 people in the Hyndburn area 1600 of them watch Stanley regularly so whats that ? Call it 2% of the population and of that 2% there only appears to be me who can see the absolute necessity of raising the ticket prices. WE WILL GO BUST IF WE DON'T. I repeat Stanley is not a charity (it needs it)

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Major point to ADD people forget the enormous generosity shown by Stanley supporters and the borough WHEN the club needed financial help, in the SOS campaign, the efforts ALL fractions of supporters efforts in promoting and raising funds for the club. So please have a little respect when people are shocked by the increase in prices at times when supporters incomes are not great either, lets get real here as much as we understand the clubs plight the club have to understand their position within a not well off catchment area. Also why make the same mistake as we did when we came upto the league, listen to the supporters, ie the utter cheek of the club charging for the clubhouse is ludicrous especially when OSC had donated to the re~decoration of the sportsbar which came from the SUPPORTERS in the 1st place, something osc could re work on ensuring supporters get to use facilities to benefit supporters (wow I think I've found my answer re osc), sorry others mentioned it but think recognition where it's due, we also have our exhibition boards back and could make the clubhouse more of a feature to bring general people back to the club! Think the club should be talking more with it's supporters now ownership is dealt with to ensure club-fan relations so threads like this don't end up having to spell stuff out -- off soap box!

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Crikey the AccyWeb lynch-mob is in full swing tonight! It's been a while :D

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Based on the figures quoted it wouldn't make a jot of difference in the actual financing of the club. The real money for financing the club comes from Football League money and Commercial funding, the latter of which is a major funding loss at the moment.

Rob Heys statement on the fishy site says what difference the gate size really means :

I think the previous poster has a bee in his bonnet about 'foreign' fans :rolleyes:

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It's the teams fault, they keep winning so there's been nowt to complain about :D

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Exactly. The last time I remember a hoo-hah like this it was the Conference-winning season, before that the FA Cup-run :D

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Exactly! Excuse the pun hahaha I did notice that the programs went down really well on tues night (programs were at normal price) I'm sure adele could confirm, sellers were being harranged for programs but it's exactly the point, use the gate/ticket as a little loss leader grabber once in - hooked, 50-50, progs, merchandise offers for next game etc

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C'mon, mate, lots of us on here appreciate, & accept the need to increase ST prices, &, TBH, we'll all be here next season.
What we can't accept is the premium cost to be able to enter the bar (OUR BAR) at half time.
Plus, most of your comments don't somehow ring true.
I'm sure you are a smashing bloke, with the interests of Stanley at heart, but I am sorry, but your post has riled not only me, but others as well.

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I am asking where are the people who turned up when entry was subsidised. Not the 1600 regulars or those who give their heart and soul, both past and present. I'm having ago at those who only come near the place when there is something in it for them.

Surely everyone can see that the club cannot afford to give away entry into the ground. The season tickets have been underpriced for far too long. When we play well people come and some come back. When we subsidise matches people don't return once the cheap deal is over

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I think the biggest complaint on this thread is the clubhouse charge not the season ticket price.

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You all just want to keep me busy .... The quiet spell was boring haha, tho I think we did really well for not moaning not even over blades of grass lol

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Also I realise 1600 x £10 does not make £32000. Well I did ask you to do the maths.

We still don't make enough money from the games.

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Perhaps with all thats happened really in the last week people thought they might give the club another try ? Anyway I'm sure the all ticket games will put quite a few of those off going again this season so you can be happy with your core 1600 again !!!!

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If appear (ahem) somewhat narked it is because people seem oblivious to the fact that the club needs millions of pounds to run at this level, and the level has a good chance of being another notch higher next season. If we aren't prepared to pay for it then who are we expecting to pay for it?

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Millions of pounds at this level - what leagues do they have in brazil :confused: we are still league 2 atm, & with proper sound careful running of the finances I'm sure we'll do ok without having to jump to premiership levels yet we're not league 1 yet lol let's not count chickens too soon before hatched.

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I think you must be, apart from me, the only one who has sussed this... too much hot air on here from people who will eventually pay up for the increased season ticket anyway.

As you say, the underlying argument is the excessive premium to be able to drink in our clubhouse before, & during the game.

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They are not reading this, for sure!!

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I am sure MRT will tell them as he is looking NOW ! Strange he is not replying ?

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My earlier atrempt at maths wasn't too great but if you will:-

We probably have a squad over the season of 26 players if for instance they are all on minimum wage

52 weeks x 40 hours x 26 x £6.25?

= £338,000 (this is a totally unrealistically low level)

managers and assistants at league two level will be on a minimum of £80,00 for the pair so

=£80,000

I don't know how many backroom staff we have but just look in the front of the program:-

doctor, physio, security, stewards, groundsman, shop staff, office staff, gate people, fifty-fifty draw sellers, gold bond draw sellers, commercial, youthteam staff, community staff

I once read we employ 100+ staff (average of £6.25 per hour)

the pitch had £70,000 spent on it as a special case but needs fertilising rotovating sanding etc on a regular basis

£30,000 on seats one season,

£30,000 on the temporary away end

Electric bill will be about £15000

Water Bill ? 5-10K?

Outstanding debt and interest

Away accomodation for say 15 away games for John Jim and 1st team Squad @ (cheap room £29)

Stanley do it by halves and I bet we spend well over £1 million easily, remember none of the squad will be on £6.25 per hour

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wow, what an incredible amount of feedback. One thing i can promise is that Rob and his team at the club take very seriously the feedback here.

I wont comment on the season ticket package, other than to say that I believe the club will be responsive to feedback and that we accept that we must be open to suggestions.

What I would like to say is that on the basis of the time I have been involved, every single penny of income that supplements the footy league money is of great value. If the total cost of running a club is well in excess of £1m, and possibly closer to £1.2million, then the season ticket sales, as well as gate receipts in general, are critical. In our case we have not been able to get as much other sponsorship and help from the community as we would have liked, but I do hope that as many of you as possible will be thinking of the season ticket as an investment in our collective future. I can also promise you that not a penny of the revenue we receive is going into the pocket of shareholders in any form. No loan repayments or salaries or fees or commissions. Clearly the club still needs help from me in order to make the sums add up, but a nice sale of season tickets is really quite important to our situation. I guess I am stating the obvious, but given the wide range of opinions being expressed I thought it only fair to acknowledge that Rob and his team certainly dont ignore the comments. cheers
Ilyas

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Have the staff been payed yet Ilyas ?

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Think the club are caught between two stools here. Put the prices up and people (especially "casuals") will be reluctant to come. Don't put the prices up and carry on running up debts. As Mr Kitch has said though, fifty quid for the privilege of spending money in our own club is a bit rich...and I predict that this idea will be quietly dropped (and you know how accurate my predictions are!). ;)

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The reality is even if Stanley sold out the home end it would never be anywhere near surviving on gate money. It's the commercial side which is the key issue, and one which has been compromised with previous poor relationship from the club to it's partners

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hello David. I cant answer the question with a definite yes, but to the best of my understanding (and i will know for certain by close of play on Monday), all of the previous month's staff salaries should be cleared, as should a large amount of trade creditors, as well the critical HMRC payments that were leading to bailiff calls. I also think that the current month (ie salaries due in april) will be paid up by the end of next week. Does that answer your question ?

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Thankyou Ilyas

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I think if you buy a season ticket you should get free entrance anyway and if you want to make it a members lounge charge say £25 thats not £1 a match including cup games. God I never go and I'd pay that :D like its been said earlier some other clubs charge for entrance into their clubhouses but a members lounge sounds a good idea.

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Thanks Mr K for your comments.
Although we all are thankful for everything you have done for us & the club,I hope that you, as as business man, will be able to convince your co-directors, that putting a premium on use of the bar is a bit of a daft idea.

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:) Evening Ilyas,and thank you for coming on the forum and posting :) Is it possible for you to ask that the dead line for early bird prices be extended to say mid to end of may so it gives my self as well as others time to save the extra £ needed to cove the rise in season tickets,

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Understandable considering the issues that have been surrounding the club over the last couple of years. But surely the new situation must make the club much more attractive to potential sponsors and the commercial staff should be going out into the local community and pushing that to maximum effect?

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The ones at Burnley are tied in to the weekly draws. become a draw member and you get free admission. You still paying £50 odd pound a year but people look at it differently because they live in hope of getting their money back at some stage :)

That still wouldn't stop the problems where people come for games with friends and they are stuck outside. Charge a pound on the door for one day admission to those who aren't members of anyone who doesn't already contribute to the club on a members scheme ( season ticket holders, Gold Bond members etc would get free entry. That also gets money off away fans :)

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She knows a lot more than you think ;)

To be fair you did say millions which conjured up images of Premier League financing rather than proper football financing :)

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I bet it is millions for most of the clubs in the playoff zone :-)

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Go GLOBAL WH ,Coca-Cola my just be looking for a sponsorship deal:D

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I've no doubt some of them will be stretching themselves and taking a risk. We'll find out when they lose 10 points for going in to adminstration next season ;)

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Having just attended another meeting meeting tonight away from football in the local community looking at budgets, sponsorship & just keeping a once a year event ticking along whilst trying to engage the public to volunteer and look at ways of getting people through through the gate on the day at an affordable price to ensure it carries on next year & the year after etc.

I have perhaps realised what a difficult and fine balancing act it is to ensure survival through revenue streams but I also heard the same points from every member of the committee who are all volunteers and from a broad sweep of proffessions is that every avenue has to be explored finacially to keep within the strict budgets set whilst not having any effect on the event itself and minimising the cost to still make it a viable affordable day out for the public whilst still making money to keep the event going year in year out.

It's a tough call so I do understand that the Club has to look at every aspect from the Top down in terms of becoming self sufficient and that prices are rising be it a loaf of bread or a ticket for a football game but the point I am trying to make is as the fiscal hand tightens so does peoples spending certainly more on their desposable income for things like footy or trips to the cinema whatever is your bag.

I really want this Club to succeed and the community to flourish with it to bring about prosperity to the town itself and what better way than through footy and Stanley itself.

I will shut up now but hopefully you get the point:)

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In order to get the price of season tickets down we need to resurect our fabled association with milk. I propose we get Wisemans Dairies to sponser the shirt, As a neat aside the black and white away strip could be in a freisan cow patchy pattern like their lorries.

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I've signed the cheque.

Sealed the envelope.

Licked the Stamp.

Posting in the morning.

Looking forward to next season already.

And as for the clubhouse saga . . . . theres plenty more pubs in the area.

:o

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You're really not with it are you ?

You can get self stick stamps these days :D

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It was a self stick.

Maybe I should have put 'affixed stamp' bit more professional sounding:cool: