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SamF 23-05-2011 13:21

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See official site: Accrington Stanley

Gutted to see Turner go.

cashman 23-05-2011 13:27

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agree sam, aint a shock to me though, case of face don't fit imho. theres another not on that list that should be, good lad but not up to it, still thats life, least things are moving in right direction.:)

football19 23-05-2011 13:36

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Cashman,I am scratching my head ! ,whos the other one ???

bdc 23-05-2011 13:36

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I think that Chris deserved better treatment than he has had off JC, CT had a few offers when he signed his last contract but stayed loyal to the club. Now he has been released without ever really being given a proper chance. How is it that we are still in negotiations with Lindfield when he offers nothing to a game and hasn't even really played this season.

football19 23-05-2011 13:40

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bdc,that one confused me as well, Chris may not fit the style of football they are playing , but hes ideal for plan b , ie going 4-4-2 and giving natural width

Whalley Red 23-05-2011 13:47

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Maybe Coley is confident Jimmy Ryan will be staying? He's the only one of the remaining midfielders who can play wide-right.

Had expected to see Craig Lindfield and Leam Richardson on the list. Would be great to see Leam still in a Stanley shirt, though I'm sure he'd only be offered a largely appearances-based contract.

Redraine 23-05-2011 13:49

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Originally Posted by football19 (Post 908291)
bdc,that one confused me as well, Chris may not fit the style of football they are playing , but hes ideal for plan b , ie going 4-4-2 and giving natural width

But we never have a plan B. Anyone other than the chosen few have to kick their heels on the bench. I have lost count of the quality players we have let go over the years after warming the bench, never getting a real chance. I too am baffled by the Lindfield situation.

bdc 23-05-2011 14:00

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Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 908293)
But we never have a plan B. Anyone other than the chosen few have to kick their heels on the bench. I have lost count of the quality players we have let go over the years after warming the bench, never getting a real chance. I too am baffled by the Lindfield situation.

Redraine has it spot on, look at the fact that somehow Pete Murphy has yet again managed to not be released and he has played less than CT plus he wasn't even on the bench against Stevenage. How can it be right that we can keep rubbish like Lindfield and Murphy but release players that can actually offer something to a game. :rolleyes:

MCR ADIM 23-05-2011 14:05

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Gutted for Turner, think he will go on to another club and play very well, could come back and haunt us next season, good luck turner and all the lads who have been released

cashman 23-05-2011 14:07

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one thing we perhaps aint considered wi chris turner- does he want to stay?:confused: i would sure love to have kept him.

football19 23-05-2011 14:13

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Redraine,I agree with your post but against Stevenage,they went 4-4-2 in the second half,with craney being pushed up alongside Terry,then they brought Chris on as the system suited him,it didnt make much difference (although having 9 men didnt help ).
By releasing players,it also releases places in the squad to freshen things up .
Also important you have a balanced squad in terms of training , not just playing , Top players wont sit on the bench for ever,but young and fringe players will

MCR ADIM 23-05-2011 14:14

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i was thinking, that with him not playing many games this season, every football player wants to be playing week in week out, also jon bateson aswell, he played well start of season than never got a look in

cashman 23-05-2011 14:46

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agree or disagree wi list. i fer one am pleased its been formulated P.D.Q. after the close of season.:alright:

smobile 23-05-2011 15:03

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Originally Posted by bdc (Post 908289)
I think that Chris deserved better treatment than he has had off JC, CT had a few offers when he signed his last contract but stayed loyal to the club. Now he has been released without ever really being given a proper chance. How is it that we are still in negotiations with Lindfield when he offers nothing to a game and hasn't even really played this season.



Place of Birth = Merseyside ??? :D

new red 23-05-2011 15:28

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Originally Posted by smobile (Post 908314)
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Place of Birth = Merseyside ??? :D

Spot on. Gutted to see Turner go. Cant believe hes been released when the likes of Murphy and Lindfield have been offered contracts. Its laughable. Murphy offers nothing to the team and shows time and time again hes no league player. Lindfield has shown hes not up to the mark too. Chris has shown he has genuine skill and the crowd love him.Good luck Chris you deserved a chance and never got it. Itll soon be a full team of scousers!!!!!!!!!!!!

JEFF 23-05-2011 15:38

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Let's just see where these seven players end up. I would be very surprised if any of them are playing in the Football League next season.

That said, I don't think that Murphy should be playing in the Football League next season.

voiceofreason 23-05-2011 15:49

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Maybe Coley is leaving and taking Turner with him?? How the hell is SM still in the squad??

MCR ADIM 23-05-2011 16:02

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Originally Posted by football19 (Post 908300)
then they brought Chris on as the system suited him,it didnt make much difference (although having 9 men didnt help )

dont think thats fair, to judge out of one match as jimmy ryan who played ace all season didnt really set the world on fire on the same game

Willie Miller 23-05-2011 16:10

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Doom, doom, doom....

Good Luck to all, but Coley sees these players every day in training & continues to make the correct choices. In Coley we trust!

Pendle Red 23-05-2011 16:19

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Genuinely gutted that Chris is no longer a Stanley player

But the lad will go on to bigger & better things of that I have no doubt

A creative genuine wide man who has come through the ranks, may not suit our type of system but I have no doubt you have what it takes to play at a higher level.

It has been a pleasure to know you and watch your career from being part of the youth team, to your first contract, to your first team debut to being crowned Young Player of the Year and seeing you make over sixty appearances for Stanley.

Stanley's loss will be somebody else's gain

I shall watch your career go on to blossom with a keen eye.:)

All the Best Chris

He plays on the left.... He plays on the right.......:alright:

smudgie 23-05-2011 16:30

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Well I echo most of the statements on here.............. but in Coley we do trust.

However IF the likes of Murphy, Leam & Lindfield get a contract then I really must watch a different game to Coley on occasion.

Good luck Chris im sure you will end up a very good League player in the future!!!

rude-dog 23-05-2011 16:32

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agree some players have survived the axe that probably shudnt have but i cant go along with this feeling that turner will be a big miss. he has always flattered to decieve imho and people say he never had a chance well 66 appearances says otherwise. granted not many starts but for my memory not many real highlights which would make me worry about him coming back to haunt us. coley has been doing this along time now and i cant think of any1 released who has gone anywhere and flourished.

lancsdave 23-05-2011 16:44

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Only fringe players being released suggests 2 or 3 key players could be brought in to strenghten a play off team. Can't be that bad despite the sentiment for Chris Turner

Redraine 23-05-2011 16:48

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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 908327)
Doom, doom, doom....Good Luck to all, but Coley sees these players every day in training & continues to make the correct choices. In Coley we trust!

I have to disagree, Jase. If ever we needed a plan B it was after the first playoff leg where Stevenage got our number and imposed themselves on our midfield players, 2 in particular. Coley's conservative choice of the same starting 11 meant we continued the same tactics of hoofing the ball in the air time after time. IMHO, starting with Turner and Putterill would have put them under pressure, and maybe we would have played in the style we did with only 9 men, the only period of the game when we kept the ball and played with any degree of possession, strangely enough. If we had made better use of our squad during the season I believe we would have had a magical season, rather than a merely brilliant one!:D

smudgie 23-05-2011 16:52

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Im not sure if the season could have gone any better to be honest, considering where we where at the turn of the year.

But I do agree the likes of Razor and Turner SHOULD have been given more game time.

Obviously we are clutching at straws, roll on July :)

Pendle Red 23-05-2011 16:54

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Originally Posted by rude-dog (Post 908334)
agree some players have survived the axe that probably shudnt have but i cant go along with this feeling that turner will be a big miss. he has always flattered to decieve imho and people say he never had a chance well 66 appearances says otherwise. granted not many starts but for my memory not many real highlights which would make me worry about him coming back to haunt us. coley has been doing this along time now and i cant think of any1 released who has gone anywhere and flourished.

Two that stand out this season who spun the game on it's head to get us the glamour tie versus "The Toon" in the Carling Cup?

Instant impact when brought on against Burton to keep the unbeaten run intact.

smudgie 23-05-2011 16:57

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Couldent agree more Pendle.

Razor in particular was on fire the 1st 20 games of the season, obviously the ban hit him hard but im hoping a good pre-season and he will be back.

Those that where at Burton saw how Chris changed the game.

Im just hoping he sorts a good club as he liked by ALL the fans at Stanley.

new red 23-05-2011 16:58

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In reply to Rude Dog - Chris certainly did well when he came on in the last ten against Doncaster and popped up with a goal and an assist to help get us through to play Newcastle. That was certainly a highlight for me. Apart from that he has only played a matter of minutes with cameo appearances. Not been given a chance IMHO. Think Bateson could go on and do well too. He didnt seem to do anything wrong but was dropped like a brick. He's another non scouser though. Good luck to all the lads that have been releasedand hope to see you at The Crown ground again just to prove Coley wrong.

AccyAggro 23-05-2011 17:03

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Again quite dissapointed that turner has been released but never got a sniff all season, pretty sure he would of wanted to stay with it being local for him etc but suppose it wasnt meant to be.

However, what do peter murphy and lindfield bring to the squad at all? murphy may be able to play in a number of positions but the way he plays in half of those positions he wouldn't even get into a conference north side! Lindfield, 1 goal all season says it all. Granted that way have been away at doncaster but he struggled getting it in, and like it or not strikers are judged on goals and he simply doesnt deliver.

However again agreed, coley's a genius and im sure he will have something up his sleeve

lancsdave 23-05-2011 17:05

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Maybe he is going to sign a faster winger.......... Russell Booth :)

katei77 23-05-2011 17:08

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Coley and Jimmy has given us an unbelievable season given everything what has happened on and off the pitch.

Our squad size and wages bill for the squad have be a killer to the club the last 2 seasons if not more,we have to reduce the out goings,simple!

We can only play so many players,do we pay for lads to just train and play the odd game for res?

IMHO Coley and Jimmy will have be told to reduce the squad size if they wants to offer our star players better contracts and keep them at the Crown.

Football is a business and as heartless as it sounds we as club cant afford to keep lads on just because they are nice,I do wish all the lads luck where ever they end up playing.

Coley and Jimmy have a vison where they what to take the team and a plan and style of game its hard facts that not every lad will fit into this,this by all means this does not mean the lads are not good enough for league 2 or any other league it just means they dont fit with coley and jimmys plans for the next season and lets face his plan for this season has work ace,we were in the play offs!

Pendle Red 23-05-2011 17:26

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Originally Posted by rude-dog (Post 908334)
agree some players have survived the axe that probably shudnt have but i cant go along with this feeling that turner will be a big miss. he has always flattered to decieve imho and people say he never had a chance well 66 appearances says otherwise. granted not many starts but for my memory not many real highlights which would make me worry about him coming back to haunt us. coley has been doing this along time now and i cant think of any1 released who has gone anywhere and flourished.


I may be mistaken but didn't Stevenage have two in their ranks:(

smudgie 23-05-2011 17:29

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Theres plenty more................

ddevil2006 23-05-2011 18:05

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Found Lindfield up for a free transfer on pfa website

smudgie 23-05-2011 18:12

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Originally Posted by ddevil2006 (Post 908370)
Found Lindfield up for a free transfer on pfa website


Well spotted.

Amazed at some of the names on there to be honest.

smudgie 23-05-2011 18:13

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If he is on the Free Transfer list than surely that means he has a contract???

Or am I mistaken???

Outback Ozzy 23-05-2011 18:24

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Maybe we should ask Brett Ormerod to come back to us, he is being released by Blackpool. Somehow though, I think we can never match his wages, which is a shame really. Would make a wonderful foil forf Terry Gornell up front playing 4-4-2 or even 4-4-1-1

smudgie 23-05-2011 18:25

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Dream on Ozz ;)

fc:stanley 23-05-2011 18:32

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Originally Posted by katei77 (Post 908349)
Our squad size and wages bill for the squad have be a killer to the club the last 2 seasons if not more,we have to reduce the out goings,simple!

We can only play so many players,do we pay for lads to just train and play the odd game for res?

What a load of rubbish that is !!! We have one of the smallest squads in the league 2 and the lowest wage bill in the football league and probably the conference aswell included!!

A player like Chris Turner was a good player and a player like him was on peanuts! So getting rid of players like him is simply not about money!!

unfortunatly now we need our chairman to up the game with investers etc! We need to not get rid of players because we cant afford other players wages, we need to sort practical and good wages for players we need to keep etc! if we dont then were just going nowhere and it will be the on going cycle were all imune to now!

Gutted about Chris going as he actually was generally a good talent who changed games! How Murphy and Lindfield are still in the squad is beyond me!!!!

katei77 23-05-2011 18:39

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how big is our clubs income?

income has to match out goings

our income does not match the out goings a couple of P-P games and we are struggling to pay the bills

my view wasnt that it was all down money but more to do with not fitting in with coleys plans as i said i wish all the lads luck where ever they end up

lancsdave 23-05-2011 18:45

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Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 908386)
unfortunatly now we need our chairman to up the game with investers etc!


Why is it down to the chairman ? Pretty sure he said while he is prepared to support the club where necessary it has to survive on it merit.

fc:stanley 23-05-2011 18:59

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Originally Posted by katei77 (Post 908387)
how big is our clubs income?

income has to match out goings

our income does not match the out goings a couple of P-P games and we are struggling to pay the bills

my view wasnt that it was all down money but more to do with not fitting in with coleys plans as i said i wish all the lads luck where ever they end up

Why not leave the finances to the club? and just leave yourself to supporting the team on the field. :)

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 908390)
Why is it down to the chairman ? Pretty sure he said while he is prepared to support the club where necessary it has to survive on it merit.

But her also said he was looking at people to invest in the club! We obviously need investment with businesses sponsering etc and so its down to the chairman to sort this out. For e.g the stadium he may be sorting out for the club

ddevil2006 23-05-2011 19:04

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Found five youth team players looking for clubs- Matt Lawler, Jamie Larner, Jordan Rimmer, Anthony Field, And Connor Hobson

lancsdave 23-05-2011 19:12

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Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 908393)
Why not leave the finances to the club? and just leave yourself to supporting the team on the field. :)



But her also said he was looking at people to invest in the club! We obviously need investment with businesses sponsering etc and so its down to the chairman to sort this out. For e.g the stadium he may be sorting out for the club


You seem to have contradicted yourself there :D

Christies Child 23-05-2011 19:21

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CT evidently had a trial with us before joining you guys. Got injured but maybe another chance for him now that we've got a different management team with their own ideas.

Certainly has a number of admirers on SVs

dabeast 23-05-2011 19:41

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Would be a good one for you I reckon. Shame he did not fit the plan here but as others have said its pointless paying someone to warm the bench.....still doesn't explain Murphy though

harwood red 23-05-2011 19:42

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I hope chris remembered to leave my shirt behind lol

But have to say that from murmurings it was more about attitude than just football.

I for one completely believe in jimmy and john after this season, especially if you go back 12 months and remember how we felt at the end of last season when we were losing good players and many thought "OH NO!! what are we going to do??? it's not looking good" etc etc....

So I will just have faith :)

katei77 23-05-2011 20:04

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 908399)
You seem to have contradicted yourself there :D

was thinking the same.........if my views dont fit i should keep quiet in the future:rolleyes:

katei77 23-05-2011 20:06

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Originally Posted by harwood red (Post 908406)
I hope chris remembered to leave my shirt behind lol

But have to say that from murmurings it was more about attitude than just football.

I for one completely believe in jimmy and john after this season, especially if you go back 12 months and remember how we felt at the end of last season when we were losing good players and many thought "OH NO!! what are we going to do??? it's not looking good" etc etc....

So I will just have faith :)

dont worry after the game fri he was asked for his shirt but said it was already paid for im guessing sponors :)

shakermaker 23-05-2011 20:16

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Can only echo the comments about DJ. Thought that with time and work he could've been moulded into an Adam Johnson type of winger as he was equally adept at crossing with both feet and loved nothing more than to make defenders do a poo. I'm really, really gutted that it hasn't worked out for him here, for whatever reason. He was the only player to look like he might create a goal for us in 180 play-off minutes, despite only playing in 30 of them.

The only releasee I'm surprised about is Tom Smyth. I thought he looked like a tidy player in his brief appearances. Oh well, what do I know.

Good luck to all who have not been offered a contract and thank you for your time & efforts. It's a sad time of year this :(

Wynonie Harris 23-05-2011 20:23

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Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 908386)
What a load of rubbish that is !!! We have one of the smallest squads in the league 2 and the lowest wage bill in the football league and probably the conference aswell included!!

it may have escaped your attention but we have the second lowest gates in the FL (think we were about 50 spectators per match above Macc this season). We also have lower gates than around half of the Blue Square clubs. We've also lost large sums of money from the demise of major sponsors. Also, we can't expect Ilyas to keep dipping his hand into his pocket ad infinitum. So we have to cut our coat according to our cloth and that means getting shut of some of the bench warmers (whether we agree with Coley's final choices or not). We cannot repeat the mistake of living beyond our means...we've already been there, done and got the T-shirt...twice!! :eek:

katei77 23-05-2011 20:28

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oh why dont we have a `like` button :)

VALAIRIAN 23-05-2011 20:48

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You have a Karma button ;) :)

hasyred 23-05-2011 20:56

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Im gutted that chris as been released good luck to him and the other players that have been released :hothothot

mab 23-05-2011 21:09

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Originally Posted by football19 (Post 908300)
Redraine,I agree with your post but against Stevenage,they went 4-4-2 in the second half,with craney being pushed up alongside Terry,then they brought Chris on as the system suited him,it didnt make much difference (although having 9 men didnt help ).
By releasing players,it also releases places in the squad to freshen things up .
Also important you have a balanced squad in terms of training , not just playing , Top players wont sit on the bench for ever,but young and fringe players will

I dissagree F19up to when our 2 got sent off we had began to play and had started forcing stevenage back,and IF the sendings off hadn't occurred,then i think we would have gone on to win IMHO:)

cashman 23-05-2011 21:11

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simple fact of the matter is folk that pays there money are entitled to opinions, agree or disagree, what must be remembered is the fact Coley has never let the club down once (unlike some that have now gone) his record of improving position every season, proves that fact beyond any doubt. no manager in the game can equal that fact oer 10 yrs or more, i have disagreed wi a few things no question, but end of the day thats why i'm sat here on me arse n coleys the manager.;) roll on next season.:)

theresonlyoneaccy 24-05-2011 07:29

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy (Post 908381)
Maybe we should ask Brett Ormerod to come back to us, he is being released by Blackpool. Somehow though, I think we can never match his wages, which is a shame really. Would make a wonderful foil forf Terry Gornell up front playing 4-4-2 or even 4-4-1-1

Firing Stanley into League One, he won't need much money he's just been in the Premier League!!

football19 24-05-2011 08:43

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Mab , i think i may of misled you with my comment,i was trying to point out that Coleman changed the system,but it made no difference to the game.
I wasnt being critical of chris(who did well when he came on),as he was put in a no win situation.
One point people seem to miss here is that players dont just get released for being a bad player,there are many reasons,one being another has been lined up!!!
A lot of released players do get offered contracts,but choose to leave as normally these are less than what there on.
The manager has to manage a budget,and his track record suggests hes bloody good at it !!!

JEFF 24-05-2011 09:00

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According to LET, Turner was offered a lower paid contract but turned it down. OK, players like Murphy and Lidfield may not set the world on fire but we need a squad and that means fringe players who warm the bench. My guess is that Murphy and Lindfield may not be on much above the basic wage and that Turner was on a lot more, so it makes sense to keep the lower paid bench warmers and release the higher paid in order to offer the regular first team players a better deal.

football19 24-05-2011 09:27

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Spot on Jeff , plus there are hundreds of first and second year pros that have been released and looking for clubs and the cycle starts again.
Cant stress enough the job Coley and Bell have done to attract these players,and hopefully unearths another Ryan,putterill,etc..oh, i better mention Deano lol

SamF 24-05-2011 12:11

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Originally Posted by theresonlyoneaccy (Post 908460)
Firing Stanley into League One, he won't need much money he's just been in the Premier League!!

It depends what he wants to do after retiring - if we approach him with the few of becoming player-coach we can offer experience of working under the wing of a cracking football league manager, might make up for the lesser wages.

rude-dog 24-05-2011 17:54

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Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 908351)
I may be mistaken but didn't Stevenage have two in their ranks:(

if u class mark roberts and joel byrom as flourished then i rest my case. imho they wud not get into our team above proctor/joyce or edwards /hessey

MCR ADIM 24-05-2011 17:56

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I reckon byrom would, always rated him, since his blackburn days,

SamF 24-05-2011 18:25

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Originally Posted by rude-dog (Post 908543)
if u class mark roberts and joel byrom as flourished then i rest my case. imho they wud not get into our team above proctor/joyce or edwards /hessey

I would class being the captain of a team in the play off final a success...

AccyAggro 24-05-2011 19:38

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I would say Mark Roberts is quite good at his best but I genuinly wouldnt play him in front of edwards or hessey, or kevin long for that matter.. byrom wouldnt get in the team either. Hes barely played all season and he got lucky by playing in the first leg against us due to injuries, no chance of getting in our midfield this season

lancsdave 24-05-2011 20:56

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Looks like Proccy is planning to stay

BBC Sport - Football - Andy Procter aims for improved Stanley

sparkie 24-05-2011 21:46

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Originally Posted by MCR ADIM (Post 908544)
I reckon byrom would, always rated him, since his blackburn days,

Ha I don't think we could pay him enough to cover his :thepint:money!!

I believe he likes to light up his senses with a gallon of magnet!!!

Pendle Red 25-05-2011 05:23

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Originally Posted by rude-dog (Post 908543)
if u class mark roberts and joel byrom as flourished then i rest my case. imho they wud not get into our team above proctor/joyce or edwards /hessey

If you don't class winning the Conference and being in a Play-Off final as flourishing besides the fact they both built there careers back through non-league football after leaving Stanley then I don't know what is?

lancsdave 25-05-2011 09:07

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Originally Posted by fc:stanley (Post 908386)
What a load of rubbish that is !!! We have one of the smallest squads in the league 2 and the lowest wage bill in the football league and probably the conference aswell included!!

A player like Chris Turner was a good player and a player like him was on peanuts! So getting rid of players like him is simply not about money!!

unfortunatly now we need our chairman to up the game with investers etc! We need to not get rid of players because we cant afford other players wages, we need to sort practical and good wages for players we need to keep etc! if we dont then were just going nowhere and it will be the on going cycle were all imune to now!

Not sure you should rwad this one FC :rolleyes:

Accrington Stanley chief won't increase wage budget (From Lancashire Telegraph)

AccyMad 25-05-2011 12:59

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 908652)

Another half a story from our friend Mr. Flanagan - bless 'im :rolleyes:

katei77 25-05-2011 13:34

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isnt this a good thing thought?at least it now seems the club are now spending within their means,yes we have IK to back the club but he should not be bank rolling the club,all businesses have to run to a buget and it seems for the 1st time the club is doing so

fatgaz182 25-05-2011 18:04

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Putterill gone?????:eek: Can anybody confirm this?

VALAIRIAN 25-05-2011 18:07

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Originally Posted by fatgaz182 (Post 908717)
Putterill gone?????:eek: Can anybody confirm this?

I had heard a whisper..............

fatgaz182 25-05-2011 18:10

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Did the whisper mention he did'nt even turn up for the retained meeting?

VALAIRIAN 25-05-2011 18:11

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Originally Posted by fatgaz182 (Post 908719)
Did the whisper mention he did'nt even turn up for the retained meeting?

Correct..................... You know too much ;) :)

fatgaz182 25-05-2011 18:16

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Thats a shame did'nt think he was like that:(

We must have the same snout:p

smudgie 25-05-2011 18:21

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Thats a HUGE shame if its true :(

new red 25-05-2011 18:41

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Bet he will not be the last if the wages are poor and they can get better elsewhere. Nothing to do with Loyalty but the players do have families and mortgages!!!

katei77 25-05-2011 19:03

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Lets be honest the club does not have a huge lot to offer in terms of wages training grounds etc.... compared to alot of other league 2 clubs or lower league clubs.

Over the last season the lads have had delays on wages more than once no one can really call anyone of the lads for going to another club

No one can call coley for not be able to offer the deals to keep these lads or bring in new lads

No one can blame the chairman for not making more funds to keep/bring in new players

The club is be honest with the lads,the club can not offer huge wages weather the player is worth it or not

The chairman is be honest we as a club cant afford to pay the wages certain players want or are worth

The tax bill was paid but the effects of the last 2 seasons still live on :(

VALAIRIAN 25-05-2011 19:03

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Wages do not come into it...

shakermaker 25-05-2011 19:12

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It would be a shame if Putterill does leave the club, but I don't think it would be a massive loss. Indeed he was electric at the start of the season, but to me he didn't exactly seem like the model professional; he didn't seem to have the motivation to keep himself fit or the will to fight to earn a starting place after his ban. He could have a fantastic career if he expressed the work rate and professionalism of Paul Mullin or Andy Procter to go with his abundance of talent.

rude-dog 25-05-2011 19:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendle Red (Post 908623)
If you don't class winning the Conference and being in a Play-Off final as flourishing besides the fact they both built there careers back through non-league football after leaving Stanley then I don't know what is?

i class goin on to bigger and better things as flourishing. not 4 years after leaving bein back at the same level in a rugby team

cashman 25-05-2011 20:41

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i personally think putterill would be a big loss if true,:eek: i see others that are perhaps more motivated, but it sure don't make em any better fer it.:eek:

Redraine 25-05-2011 21:48

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Turner and now Putterill. If only they had been given a fair crack of the whip.:(
I haven't the slightest concern about the others released.

cashman 25-05-2011 21:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 908768)
Turner and now Putterill. If only they had been given a fair crack of the whip.:(
I haven't the slightest concern about the others released.

agree, "pay peanuts,yeh get monkeys" can think of 2 possibly staying that fit that bill.:(

MCR ADIM 25-05-2011 22:35

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Thats abit harsh, look at the players we have had this season, jimmy ryan, edwards, proccy, deano, gornell, they all wont be on big wages, i'd rather keep paying the wages we do than end up in a mess AGAIN, but i know to keep the players we need to up the wages but until we have the income to do so than

cashman 25-05-2011 23:04

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not harsh its fact, aint referring any you have named MCR, n it dont take a rocket scientist to figure? everyones aware wages aint the best, n cannot be vastly increased, just hope we can keep those players that deserve more.;)

DAV007 25-05-2011 23:14

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Lindfield being retained or is he on a 2 year deal?

SamF 26-05-2011 00:12

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 908780)
Lindfield being retained or is he on a 2 year deal?

Only Craney is still signed on.

Larry Lobster 26-05-2011 09:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redraine (Post 908768)
Turner and now Putterill. If only they had been given a fair crack of the whip.:(
I haven't the slightest concern about the others released.

I don't think Jonathan Bateson deserved to be discarded the way that he was. From first team regular, to being completely ignored overnight. Just because of getting sent off at Bury.

Redraine 26-05-2011 10:14

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Originally Posted by Larry Lobster (Post 908806)
I don't think Jonathan Bateson deserved to be discarded the way that he was. From first team regular, to being completely ignored overnight. Just because of getting sent off at Bury.

Sorry, forgot him. I agree with that. He is at least as good as, or even better, than the first team regulars. Just remind me, how many goals did we concede when he was a regular in the team?

football19 26-05-2011 12:04

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Redraine,you will find Jon Batesons last four games for Acci, the team conceeded 14 goals,the following four league games,when he dropped to the bench, they conceeded 3.
Those stats may or may not have some bearing on why he never forced his way back in the team.
I like Jon as a player,and he may have carried the can for those stats,only the gaffer could tell you,but after he made his debut on loan at Alty,he was quickly dispatched to the bench after a few games.
He is a good player,maybe just an unlucky one.
We are not at training ever day,therefore you have to accept what coaching staff deem as there strongest team

Redraine 26-05-2011 15:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by football19 (Post 908820)
Redraine,you will find Jon Batesons last four games for Acci, the team conceeded 14 goals,the following four league games,when he dropped to the bench, they conceeded 3.
Those stats may or may not have some bearing on why he never forced his way back in the team.
I like Jon as a player,and he may have carried the can for those stats,only the gaffer could tell you,but after he made his debut on loan at Alty,he was quickly dispatched to the bench after a few games.
He is a good player,maybe just an unlucky one.
We are not at training ever day,therefore you have to accept what coaching staff deem as there strongest team

Incorrect - we conceded 11 in his last 4 games, including the freak 7-4 against the Gills. In the previous 7 league games we conceded only 1 goal. Not only that, we actually conceded 13 goals in the next 4 games when he was absent!!!! He certainly was scape-goated, as in his last 4 games it was mistakes by our other defenders which mostly cost us. This may not prove anything, but let's get the facts straight.:D

smudgie 26-05-2011 16:06

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I also liked Bateson, but I think after Jacobsen came into the side and Winnard moved to RB we looked a better side.

If you remember Bateson also played in the horror show away at Chesterfield, which turned out to be his last game. Shame really but alas I think we where a better side with Jacobsen in.

football19 26-05-2011 19:22

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Redraine,maths and english were not my strongest subjects ! ,but i did say league games lol so here goes,assuming his last game was chesterfield ,
chesterfield 5
bury 3
gillingham 4
stockport 2
total 14
LEAGUE GAMES AFTER CHESTERFIELD,
southend 1
stevenage 0
bradford 1
barnet 2
I know the above doesnt make any difference,i was trying to answer your original post,and the above jumped out as a possible reason,as i said, hes a good player,but a good defender, i am unsure,as he got caught far to many times up field when the goals were flying in.

cashman 26-05-2011 20:46

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i'm wi smudge on this, much improved wi jacobsen in side, nowt against bateson, defense to me was pretty solid, more so without the guy.

Redraine 26-05-2011 23:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by football19 (Post 908903)
Redraine,maths and english were not my strongest subjects ! ,but i did say league games lol so here goes,assuming his last game was chesterfield ,
chesterfield 5
bury 3
gillingham 4
stockport 2
total 14
LEAGUE GAMES AFTER CHESTERFIELD,
southend 1
stevenage 0
bradford 1
barnet 2
I know the above doesnt make any difference,i was trying to answer your original post,and the above jumped out as a possible reason,as i said, hes a good player,but a good defender, i am unsure,as he got caught far to many times up field when the goals were flying in.

Ouch! I forgot that Jon played at Chesterfield, thinking Bury was his last match, but don't forget the 3 league games in between, when he wasn't playing and we conceded 8 goals. I went to Chesterfield and thought he had rather a good game, whereas Sunbeds, Long and Cisak each had a shocker. Jon played a very strong attacking game that night - maybe that's where he went wrong!;)
Shall we move on?

Whalley Red 27-05-2011 08:19

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According to Chris Flanagan ...

Putterill didn't attend the 'retained meeting' as he was ill and he will find out if he has been offered a contract when Coley returns on Thursday - they want to talk to the players face-to-face.

Khan wants to raise a million for Stanley (From Lancashire Telegraph)

football19 27-05-2011 08:37

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Agreed,redraine,we shall move on!!! lol.
The only suprise to me last season,was the way Parky wasnt used as much.People on here were saying hes past it etc...,but in reality he was one of the fittest in the squad all season,and his experience could have counted in the end of season pressure games.

SamF 27-05-2011 10:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by football19 (Post 908967)
Agreed,redraine,we shall move on!!! lol.
The only suprise to me last season,was the way Parky wasnt used as much.People on here were saying hes past it etc...,but in reality he was one of the fittest in the squad all season,and his experience could have counted in the end of season pressure games.

I was thinking the same, I would much rather have had Parkinson in the starting XI than Sean.


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