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Exile on Spencer St 28-08-2017 16:01

Re: Clayton End development?
 
I don't know if a new stand is to be built (and am indifferent as, when I can get to the Crown, prefer to stand on the Clayton End) but there are at least two good reasons to go ahead
1. to provide a seating area that gives a proper view of the pitch. The current stands are poor, too low, with views blocked by constant comings and goings and subs warming up. Didn't you claim in another thread that you couldn't see the West Brom game from your seat, Chrisr?
2. to provide better facilities, especially toilets.

I'd be delighted if Mr.Holt decided to go ahead with a new stand but no doubt on here it still wouldn't satisfy some.

cashman 28-08-2017 17:30

Re: Clayton End development?
 
Agree with Exile,also it may well increase away support, i have spoke to quite a few away fans oer the years and the main consensus was we have never been to stanley glad we have aint gonna return cos its rough as rats, if its a better place to come word will soon get round imho.An increased away support will certainly help things?

Lord Stiffupperlip 28-08-2017 19:32

Re: Clayton End development?
 
Surely this must be a good sign & perhaps indicates the clubs negotiations to buy the ground from the council may be proceeding.
No tenant would agree to invest the sums required for this type of project without first owning the freehold.
The Cowshed has become an embarrassing reminder from our non-league days.
As it also houses the TV camera's, something must be constructed to enable recording to continue.
Can't imagine they'll knock it down & simply rebuild a scaffold tower for the TV crew?

Chewbacca 28-08-2017 20:38

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Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1200482)
Surely this must be a good sign & perhaps indicates the clubs negotiations to buy the ground from the council may be proceeding.
No tenant would agree to invest the sums required for this type of project without first owning the freehold.
The Cowshed has become an embarrassing reminder from our non-league days.
As it also houses the TV camera's, something must be constructed to enable recording to continue.
Can't imagine they'll knock it down & simply rebuild a scaffold tower for the TV crew?

That is not true at all. Get a long enough lease and it is immaterial, as the lease will probably last longer than the stand.

You don't have to look far to find new stadiums built without freehold.

Lord Stiffupperlip 28-08-2017 20:56

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Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1200483)
That is not true at all. Get a long enough lease and it is immaterial, as the lease will probably last longer than the stand.
You don't have to look far to find new stadiums built without freehold.

Only a fool would spend thousands (or even millions) as a leaseholder.
Any improved asset value only benefits the owner of the freehold.

ferret man 28-08-2017 21:58

Re: Clayton End development?
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1200478)
Agree with Exile,also it may well increase away support, i have spoke to quite a few away fans oer the years and the main consensus was we have never been to stanley glad we have aint gonna return cos its rough as rats, if its a better place to come word will soon get round imho.An increased away support will certainly help things?

Maybe this is the way to go, I think we all know by now that we are not going to bring in support from Accy or the surrounding area, so if we had better facilities we may get more support from Yeovil

cashman 29-08-2017 05:55

Re: Clayton End development?
 
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Originally Posted by ferret man (Post 1200485)
Maybe this is the way to go, I think we all know by now that we are not going to bring in support from Accy or the surrounding area, so if we had better facilities we may get more support from Yeovil

Well as everything else has failed, its worth trying imho.

NORTHERNSOUL 29-08-2017 06:40

Re: Clayton End development?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferret man (Post 1200485)
Maybe this is the way to go, I think we all know by now that we are not going to bring in support from Accy or the surrounding area, so if we had better facilities we may get more support from Yeovil

Well as i.ve said before last year Carlisle took 3k to Blackpool at around this time in the season so that should be the target the Stanley management should be aiming to attract and the target by which their efforts should be judged on.

monkey hanger 29-08-2017 08:27

Re: Clayton End development?
 
problem for away fans is they have a choice. get wet through standing or sit in the cow shed where if you,re 6ft or more there is no leg room. once bitten etc. even pompey fans didn,t return in the numbers of their first visit.

AccyMad 29-08-2017 09:25

Re: Clayton End development?
 
I'm quite fond of the cowshed myself - certainly don't think of it as an 'embarrassing reminder' of our non league days - more of a 'look how far we've come' sort of thing. I know it has to go but the place won't be the same without it, wonder if the club has thought of selling bits of it off after the demolition??

cashman 29-08-2017 09:34

Re: Clayton End development?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1200500)
I'm quite fond of the cowshed myself

Yer leaving yerself wide open wi that comment Di.:D:D

AccyMad 29-08-2017 09:57

Re: Clayton End development?
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1200502)
Yer leaving yerself wide open wi that comment Di.:D:D

Trust you!! :D I know what I meant even if it sounded wrong:rolleyes:

Inspector Morse 29-08-2017 09:58

Re: Clayton End development?
 
How come no one knows what's replacing the cow shed?
Surely it can't be the proposed stand muted last season given our gates?

Have we not got previous on poorly thought through white elephant stand building?

baldy 29-08-2017 10:04

Re: Clayton End development?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisr (Post 1200469)
The real thing that we need to look at is why there is so much investment in a new stand which would not increase capacity. An illogical step.

Not sure of the detailed plans of the Cow Shed or what's going to be built within it or who it will be used for but let's presume it's something similar to the Main Stand now.

If you was a family would you be more encouraged to sit in a stand like the Main Stand or the Cow Shed?

If you was an away fan on a 500 mile round trip would you rather, Stand on an open terrace and get soaked, Sit in the Cow Shed or Sit in a stand like the Main Stand?

For years we've been crying out for stadium upgrades and now they're actually happening people are moaning...Can't get my head around it!

cashman 29-08-2017 10:05

Re: Clayton End development?
 
Why dont people shut it and wait see?:rolleyes:


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