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monkey hanger 12-07-2020 07:07

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1241862)
until we move to level 1, which is no presence of the virus in the country or a vaccine.

for me if that is the case we are going to have a long wait. the virus will not totally go away. i imagine there are cases of other things that we thought had gone away but surface from time to time.

StanleyJosh 12-07-2020 11:09

Re: Coronovirus
 
Players back next couple of weeks in training.
4-6 weeks of a ‘pre-season’ behind closed doors initially.

andyd 12-07-2020 11:33

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1241871)
Players back next couple of weeks in training.
4-6 weeks of a ‘pre-season’ behind closed doors initially.

Presumably all will have to be tested.

andyd 12-07-2020 12:47

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1241860)
if we have to go to games all looking like extras from holby city then they can count me out for one.

What football and other sports and entertainment venues have to hope is that when restrictions are lifted people will return as before, judging by the response of the public to the re opening of pubs, shops restaurants etc, the initial response isn't one of rushing back. People have changed spending habits lots have lost jobs and there is the fear factor football needs to be wary of thinking everyone will rush back.

cashman 12-07-2020 12:50

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if everyone rushes back i will show my arse to the town hall clock, i will certainly be back soon as allowed but quite a few will not.

VALAIRIAN 12-07-2020 15:19

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1241876)
if everyone rushes back i will show my arse to the town hall clock, i will certainly be back soon as allowed but quite a few will not.

Please............ let there be limited crowds!!! :rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

:D :D :D

andyd 12-07-2020 21:06

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1241871)
Players back next couple of weeks in training.
4-6 weeks of a ‘pre-season’ behind closed doors initially.

Must be whisperings of a start date circulating as there is in all the papers, can't have a ' pre season without a season to start and if club has an idea when will season tickets be back on sale as they said they would as soon as a date to start is confirmed.

monkey hanger 13-07-2020 07:42

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1241876)
if everyone rushes back i will show my arse to the town hall clock, i will certainly be back soon as allowed but quite a few will not.

initially i thought once football with crowds are back there would be a boom period in the game like post WW2. think you may be right and it will end up a bit of a damp squib. the only fear for all lower division clubs is will these people ever come back.

Chimer 13-07-2020 08:03

Re: Coronovirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1241876)
if everyone rushes back i will show my arse to the town hall clock, i will certainly be back soon as allowed but quite a few will not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1241877)
Please............ let there be limited crowds!!! :rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

:D :D :D

As the official spokesman for the town hall clock, I endorse Joe's comment wholeheartedly :eek::eek:

choirboy 13-07-2020 09:32

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1241876)
if everyone rushes back i will show my arse to the town hall clock, i will certainly be back soon as allowed but quite a few will not.

I think you better make it ‘The Market Hall Clock’ Cashy as there isn’t one on the Town Hall. :bootyshak
Social distancing would have to be in operation but would be quite easy to undertake as the area in front of The Market Hall is just a large empty oasis, courtesy of Hyndburn Borough Council!
:arty::arty::arty::joint::sleep::bangh8:

cashman 13-07-2020 11:43

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Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1241898)
I think you better make it ‘The Market Hall Clock’ Cashy as there isn’t one on the Town Hall. :bootyshak
Social distancing would have to be in operation but would be quite easy to undertake as the area in front of The Market Hall is just a large empty oasis, courtesy of Hyndburn Borough Council!
:arty::arty::arty::joint::sleep::bangh8:

yeh i know but its always been called the town hall clock since i was a lad,

VALAIRIAN 13-07-2020 12:03

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1241898)
I think you better make it ‘The Market Hall Clock’ Cashy as there isn’t one on the Town Hall. :bootyshak
Social distancing would have to be in operation but would be quite easy to undertake as the area in front of The Market Hall is just a large empty oasis, courtesy of Hyndburn Borough Council!
:arty::arty::arty::joint::sleep::bangh8:

Please, do not give him any encouragement :D

:) :) :)

VALAIRIAN 13-07-2020 12:05

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1241902)
yeh i know but its always been called the town hall clock since i was a lad,

I believe it was a sundial first time you saw it :D :D

Only kidding my friend ;)

:) :) :)

AccyMad 13-07-2020 15:31

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1241902)
yeh i know but its always been called the town hall clock since i was a lad,

Pity the clock's not still in the Arndale Cashy, at least you'd have some protection from the elements :D

choirboy 13-07-2020 15:38

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1241905)
Pity the clock's not still in the Arndale Cashy, at least you'd have some protection from the elements :D

Hmmm...I wonder who they used as a model for the drummer on the Arndale clock?Attachment 58101

cashman 13-07-2020 20:29

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1241906)
Hmmm...I wonder who they used as a model for the drummer on the Arndale clock?Attachment 58101

how did yeh get me photo?:D

andyd 14-07-2020 08:15

Re: Coronovirus
 
Must be a nightmare for any organisation or business to get their collective heads around these Covid guidelines as advice and rules changing daily, latest this morning masks in shops to become compulsory from 24 th July and the scientists who guide the government warning them to be prepared for a possible bad winter and a worst and best case scenario. How do you plan for that somewhere in the middle.

MikeA 14-07-2020 18:38

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1241610)
Yes mate.
If deduction made this season then they're bottom and look destined for relegation.

Wigan currently winning 8-0 at home to Hull with 14 minutes to go!

andyd 14-07-2020 18:59

Re: Coronovirus
 
Heard little whispers about Premier league discussing digital health passports as a way of allowing reduced capacity,s into stadiums in the future, it means having a negative Covid test how many times not sure and using a mobile scanning device on your device to gain entry.

monkey hanger 15-07-2020 07:28

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1241986)
Heard little whispers about Premier league discussing digital health passports as a way of allowing reduced capacity,s into stadiums in the future, it means having a negative Covid test how many times not sure and using a mobile scanning device on your device to gain entry.

my god, things are just getting worse. any others who like me are just totally sick to death of all things going on at the moment. digital health passports, what next.

andyd 06-08-2020 10:31

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Sad news about another club Droylesden FC resign from league and cup competition,s this season not quite the end has they hope to continue if income improve,s in the future but a sign of the times I,m afraid.

pifco 06-08-2020 14:18

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Very sad news that andy I feel for everyone at Droylesden and I hope that there aren't too many clubs in the same situation but I'm afraid there could well be.

Crown Grounder 06-08-2020 14:40

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Very sad news for Droylesden FC. Isn't their nickname "The Bloods"?

I remember going to their ground following Stanley many years ago and standing on one of the Ash Mounds they have around the Ground watching the game.......can't remember if it was a league or cup match......

very sad......hope they can raise enough money some-how to continue..

Chewbacca 06-08-2020 15:48

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Originally Posted by Crown Grounder (Post 1242949)
Very sad news for Droylesden FC. Isn't their nickname "The Bloods"?

I remember going to their ground following Stanley many years ago and standing on one of the Ash Mounds they have around the Ground watching the game.......can't remember if it was a league or cup match......

very sad......hope they can raise enough money some-how to continue..


I remember when it kicked off in the bar after and the police came circa 2001, as the locals took umbrage to stanley lads lining up against the bar making it a closed shop.

Think my first time there was end of season 1990, with a fence and houses behind one goal and nothing else.

monkey hanger 07-08-2020 07:26

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1242932)
Sad news about another club Droylesden FC resign from league and cup competition,s this season not quite the end has they hope to continue if income improve,s in the future but a sign of the times I,m afraid.

it is sad news as they have been around for years. shows that football needs to get back with crowds as quick as possible. are not droylesden fc part of the local economy.

andyd 07-08-2020 08:22

Re: Coronovirus
 
I presume Rochdale FC have had their ground inspection for the Covid guidelines as they have put their season tickets on sale from the 15th August, it states that they will be allowed under restricted crowds guidelines 20% of capacity, the capacity at Rochdale is 10249 so I presume they will be allowed 2050 maximum.

Chewbacca 07-08-2020 11:55

Re: Coronovirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1242968)
I presume Rochdale FC have had their ground inspection for the Covid guidelines as they have put their season tickets on sale from the 15th August, it states that they will be allowed under restricted crowds guidelines 20% of capacity, the capacity at Rochdale is 10249 so I presume they will be allowed 2050 maximum.

In seats under method 2 it is around 78% in the draft guidance and the standing behind the goal at one end 12.5%. So 20% looks correct from any desk top exercise you could do in 5 mins.

The guidelines were draft for consultation and eh current capacity is 0%. It could be Nov or Dec before any spectators are allowed in especially places like Rochdale. I think in saying only 20% can get in they are hoping for a run on sales more than anything else.

andyd 07-08-2020 16:28

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Aberdeen,s game this weekend postponed after 8 players tested positive for Covid after breaking some kind of rules and visiting a bar, Nicholas Sturgeon not happy and says any more non compliance and breaking guidelines on the sports rules and she wouldn't hesitate to shut the game down again, hope English players have read this and " behave" it's becoming farcical.

Chimer 07-08-2020 17:25

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1242987)
it's becoming farcical.

Becoming? :eek:

Exile on Spencer St 07-08-2020 18:45

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It’s been farcical since day one. Now it’s bdyond madness.
But, heh it gives tin pot politicians an opportunity to show us how stupid and authoritarian they really are,

monkey hanger 08-08-2020 06:50

Re: Coronovirus
 
[QUOTE=andyd;1242987] Nicholas Sturgeon not happy and says any more non compliance and breaking guidelines on the sports rules and she wouldn't hesitate to shut the game down again,

like the nicholas one. do you know something the rest do not know.

andyd 09-08-2020 07:38

Re: Coronovirus
 
I presume when the season kicks off in September clubs in league,s 1and 2 will be subject to the same traffic light system currently being operated at Premiership and Championship levels, if this is the case I would presume at Stanley this could have an impact on which areas fans will be allowed onto when allowed back. When season tickets go on sale will there be some kind of streaming service attached as personally I think that maybe only Clayton end and new stand open first maybe I might be wrong hopefully and parts of the main stand too. The traffic light system though means separate areas for teams changing facilities and select persons like management team, doctors etc:- gets difficult in smaller stadiums.

NORTHERNSOUL 09-08-2020 16:18

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1243052)
I presume when the season kicks off in September clubs in league,s 1and 2 will be subject to the same traffic light system currently being operated at Premiership and Championship levels, if this is the case I would presume at Stanley this could have an impact on which areas fans will be allowed onto when allowed back. When season tickets go on sale will there be some kind of streaming service attached as personally I think that maybe only Clayton end and new stand open first maybe I might be wrong hopefully and parts of the main stand too. The traffic light system though means separate areas for teams changing facilities and select persons like management team, doctors etc:- gets difficult in smaller stadiums.

The main stand at Accy should be fine just keep the end 4 rows each side of the dugouts empty enter via the turnstiles exit via the ends going to the loo/for somthing to eat would be the problem. And if away fans arent allowed theres no reason they couldnt use all four sides.

There will be clubs with much bigger problems where entry/exit is via an enclosed concourse The West stand at Bloomfield road springs to mind.

But really people need to understand that you dont catch the virus from a casual brush past somebody wether that be in the supermarket or a football ground and if youre going to catch it at at match in all liklihood it will be from one of the 4 people sitting/standing nearest to you thruout the match.

monkey hanger 10-08-2020 08:26

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by NORTHERNSOUL (Post 1243087)
The main stand at Accy should be fine just keep the end 4 rows each side of the dugouts empty enter via the turnstiles exit via the ends going to the loo/for somthing to eat would be the problem. And if away fans arent allowed theres no reason they couldnt use all four sides.

There will be clubs with much bigger problems where entry/exit is via an enclosed concourse The West stand at Bloomfield road springs to mind.

But really people need to understand that you dont catch the virus from a casual brush past somebody wether that be in the supermarket or a football ground and if youre going to catch it at at match in all liklihood it will be from one of the 4 people sitting/standing nearest to you thruout the match.

think many are looking for reasons for not having fans rather than the opposite.stanleys problem has always been toilet facilities in the main stand. without actually looking at the stand carefully i wonder if there could be temporary portaloos at both ends of the stands being used. as for food i,m sure most could get through a couple of hours or so without eating and those with kids could bring a few packets of crisps and pop to keep em going. or be up to date and bring a lettuce and bottled water with em.

andyd 10-08-2020 09:07

Re: Coronovirus
 
I don't think fans are looking for reasons not to go when I touched on the traffic light system without reading the entire guidelines which are a lot to digest these red, amber and green areas also cover entrance routes as well, red areas include dressing rooms so I should imagine Stanley will have one temporary build either for home or away team to me that would probably be put in the car park behind coppice end if that's the case I would think that restricts entry their these are problems not just at Stanley every club sooner that this government stops looking through panic mode glasses and allows a bit of normality to return the better. After all football and other sports are in the fresh air yet we are all being encouraged to visit eating establishments Monday to Wednesday,s to stuff our faces on subsidised food couldn't make it up.

stanleyhouse 10-08-2020 10:11

Re: Coronovirus
 
I think you'll find that the 'red Amber green" guidelines are for matches WITHOUT fans.

andyd 10-08-2020 10:22

Re: Coronovirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stanleyhouse (Post 1243106)
I think you'll find that the 'red Amber green" guidelines are for matches WITHOUT fans.

Thanks for that said I hadn't read all the guidelines get fans back quick is the cry.

monkey hanger 10-08-2020 10:35

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[QUOTE=andyd;1243105 these are problems not just at Stanley every club sooner that this government stops looking through panic mode glasses and allows a bit of normality to return the better. After all football and other sports are in the fresh air yet we are all being encouraged to visit eating establishments Monday to Wednesday,s to stuff our faces on subsidised food couldn't make it up.[/QUOTE]

exactly. the government class this half price meal deal as kicking off or helping the local economy. are not football clubs a part of the local economy and a bigger part of it than poncy restaurants are.

cashman 10-08-2020 10:44

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all these places are not poncy definately. some may well be.

andyd 10-08-2020 15:47

Re: Coronovirus
 
Let fans in now.

Mr T 10-08-2020 17:17

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1243129)
Let fans in now.

We can't safely get players in at the minute, so sadly so chance of fans returning.

Yes we would love to have fans in but it's got to be done correctly

andyd 10-08-2020 19:33

Re: Coronovirus
 
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Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1243134)
We can't safely get players in at the minute, so sadly so chance of fans returning.

Yes we would love to have fans in but it's got to be done correctly

Thanks Mark any dates apart from October ? , being mentioned for any fans returning because you can really see a lot of clubs struggling without any?

Mr T 11-08-2020 07:37

Re: Coronovirus
 
No dates as yet and the "test" events with crowds sadly went ahead behind closed doors.

Hopefully the local spikes are under control which then will give Boris and his advisors the confidence to allow "test" events to had limited crowds.

Nobody has said anything about the October date not being the date to work to.

monkey hanger 11-08-2020 07:49

Re: Coronovirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1243134)
We can't safely get players in at the minute, so sadly so chance of fans returning.

Yes we would love to have fans in but it's got to be done correctly

could end up that the doom merchants may actually end up right. no normal fan numbers back till next january. its a wait and see situation, but i do not feel as positive as i did a few weeks ago.

andyd 11-08-2020 07:52

Re: Coronovirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1243139)
No dates as yet and the "test" events with crowds sadly went ahead behind closed doors.

Hopefully the local spikes are under control which then will give Boris and his advisors the confidence to allow "test" events to had limited crowds.

Nobody has said anything about the October date not being the date to work to.

Thanks Mark must be nightmare for you to get your head round.

andyd 11-08-2020 08:10

Re: Coronovirus
 
Mr.T is there any movement on streaming games at 3 o'clock kick off home and away and being linked to a season ticket at least you would have a choice?

Mr T 12-08-2020 07:14

Re: Coronovirus
 
Andy;

Loads of work going on around this "fix"; and hopefully Article 48 ( to protect the 3pm ko time) will continue to be suspended.

Proposals are in the Executives in-boxes; it now sorting out the fine details.

What is certain is that ST holders of home clubs will get an I Follow pass for home games they aren't allow to attend as part of their "deal".

The system works as it was used by all Championship clubs

andyd 14-08-2020 09:44

Re: Coronovirus
 
Stage 4 of the government,s phasing out of lockdown,s resumes this weekend with pilot,s of crowds at indoor and outdoor venues resuming let's all hope for success in these moves and let's keep this virus suppressed.

andyd 16-08-2020 08:40

Re: Coronovirus
 
Isle of Man FC staged their first game yesterday against Guernsey FC in front of a sell out crowd.

monkey hanger 16-08-2020 09:42

Re: Coronovirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1243295)
Stage 4 of the government,s phasing out of lockdown,s resumes this weekend with pilot,s of crowds at indoor and outdoor venues resuming let's all hope for success in these moves and let's keep this virus suppressed.

think we all hope for the best. however any slight increase in positive test numbers may put october back for us.

andyd 16-08-2020 09:54

Re: Coronovirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1243394)
think we all hope for the best. however any slight increase in positive test numbers may put october back for us.

I know we are all guided by the guidelines but if football continues for any length of time on reduced gates or in event of local lockdowns as is the case with Accrington at the moment no crowds I can really see clubs struggling will we end the season with all clubs intact.

monkey hanger 17-08-2020 07:30

Re: Coronovirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1243395)
I know we are all guided by the guidelines but if football continues for any length of time on reduced gates or in event of local lockdowns as is the case with Accrington at the moment no crowds I can really see clubs struggling will we end the season with all clubs intact.

agree. mind you not all of us will feel the same about the return of fans. i am sure there will be some like me would go back tomorrow like it used to be, whilst the opposite where some will not go back as they fear the virus. as fans there is sod all we can do about it but wait and see.

andyd 18-08-2020 15:58

Re: Coronovirus
 
More than 30 MP,s have pleaded with the government to allow fans in at lower level football steps 5 and 6 are due to start season on 5th September but collectively are refusing to start without crowds, some only average around 100 spectators on most games so safety isn't an issue but cost his could affect early rounds of FA cup if they refuse to play.

andyd 18-08-2020 17:51

Re: Coronovirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1243511)
More than 30 MP,s have pleaded with the government to allow fans in at lower level football steps 5 and 6 are due to start season on 5th September but collectively are refusing to start without crowds, some only average around 100 spectators on most games so safety isn't an issue but cost his could affect early rounds of FA cup if they refuse to play.

Just announced fans allowed to return from now below National League,s North and South it's a start.

monkey hanger 19-08-2020 07:32

Re: Coronovirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1243511)
, some only average around 100 spectators on most games so safety isn't an issue but cost his could affect early rounds of FA cup if they refuse to play.

its the cost of putting a game on for the home side and the transport costs for the away club with sod all coming in which is the issue. some clubs may have an owner that can prop em up for some time. but others live week to week on gate money, game sponsorship and a bar open 7 days a week.

andyd 21-08-2020 13:53

Re: Coronovirus
 
I see United,s captain McGuire has managed to get his self arrested somewhere in Greece are these over paid over rated " superstars " for real when we are all being told on the run up to crowds returning to sign a behaviour chart beggars belief the football authorities should come down on him like a ton of bricks I hold my breath.

Chimer 21-08-2020 15:15

Re: Coronovirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1243705)
I see United,s captain McGuire has managed to get his self arrested somewhere in Greece are these over paid over rated " superstars " for real when we are all being told on the run up to crowds returning to sign a behaviour chart beggars belief the football authorities should come down on him like a ton of bricks I hold my breath.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to wait until you've got at least some idea of what allegedly happened before you make your mind up? You may be absolutely right, but then again ......

andyd 21-08-2020 15:46

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Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 1243710)
Wouldn't it be a good idea to wait until you've got at least some idea of what allegedly happened before you make your mind up? You may be absolutely right, but then again ......

Why even be going abroad with all that's going on ok if your retired maybe or can afford to quarantine if your in a place that's affected but a footballers with the new season weeks away come on.

cashman 21-08-2020 15:47

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dont forget one of ours took the blame for his mate who was a so called superstar.


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