Budget 2009
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True indeed ... esp. the last bit .... but Andrew is right in a sense; what is needed is consumer cofidence ... but the threat of govt. economy which rides on the backs of the poorer elements in society is not the answer. Nor is the simplistic "live within it's means" bs ... we are talking complex economies here, economies that have developed into entities we have never had before (like the EU), and to compare these economies to individual budgeting (now, if we cut back on bacon, we can buy more beer) is pure, unadulterated horse manure. What all countries need are new ways of addressing economic problems; and one thing is obvious: we can't leave the running of business to the businessmen ... they screwed up massively and dumped us into the economic craphouse, proving that they can be trusted only to line their pockets at the expense of the ordinary citizen, and their national economies.
I sympathise Neil, sadly I am quite some way off the high earners bracket so it won't be troubling me for the foreseeable future!I hate the thought I will be paying 50% tax soon
I sympathise Neil, sadly I am quite some way off the high earners bracket so it won't be troubling me for the foreseeable future!
I was not being serious. I think the 50% was for those earning £150,000. That just a couple of quid out of my league
What do you expect Roy they're still using a bloody Abacus the pair of divvies
..so say the die hard fans of Norman Lamont and Geoffrey Howe..
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How the hell.....on this earth can you support the numpties who have got the country in the mess that every man, woman and child will be paying for decades to pay back the debt.
New Labour has gone 'tits up' big time.
I was not being serious. I think the 50% was for those earning £150,000. That just a couple of quid out of my league
I thought you meant it! Hahaha.....maybe if you were a barrister, Neil.
I don't support numpties.. Labour or any others...you can argue all day about who and what got us into the mess.. but I know that the same old agenda put forward by Andrew has not got us out of recessions in the past and there's no reason to believe it would work this time...I'll be honest and say I was almost afraid the opposition may have had something new to offer the country at this time because I personally don't want them back in power..but if anyone thinks the old tune about tax cuts along with public spending cuts are the answer.. then they are the living in a past that was even worse than it is now.How the hell.....on this earth can you support the numpties who have got the country in the mess that every man, woman and child will be paying for decades to pay back the debt.
New Labour has gone 'tits up' big time.
I remember the country rejected Churchill after the war and the labour government of the day lost control.
I remember the pemiership of Wilson and the labour government lost control
I remember the 'Winter of Discontent' labour lost control.
You can fool the some of the people some of the time...as the saying goes...............Time for a change.
yeh n i remember "Thatcher" who made the country what it has become today, full of selfish look after number1 n stuff the rest.
But did'nt have to borrow 600 Billion pounds to keep the country afloat.
You got the advantage there Roy I don't remember... but I know that the Tories in the 50's opposed free health care...opposed national pensions..and opposed welfare benefits... of course in these days they would not dare to speak about cuts in funding for essential spending on these services...but these old Tory "values" live on...and the Tory party has proved that you can fool some peolpe some of the time.. but you ain't fooling me.
yeh well the tory way never worked, so i am prepared to see if this does.
the selfish tossers were always there of course, but thatcher dramatically increased the number.
Next time you mount the soapbox on speakers corner ask the assembled crowd "Can we trust Gordon Brown" on a show of hands I think the majority would keep their hands in their pockets...by the same token if you asked the assembled crowd if they support Man Utd....The answer would no doubt be................'Do Yeh'
yeh well the tory way never worked, so i am prepared to see if this does.
Magiie ruffled a few feathers I know but would you give a vote of confidence to the present administration?
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"ruffled a few feathers" ?
... when she dies I don't reckon the cranes down the docks in the Thames will be bowed like they did at Churchill's funeral... she got rid of the dockers before the miners..any comparison to this Goverment with Thatcher and her wimps is an insult to any moral thinking person.. but then the Tories do not care how low they stoop to get power.no i would not, nor do i think cameron or clegg could do a better job though.
Labour is drinking at the last chance saloon in-less theirs a change in direction their will be No Fourth Term.