Gun Control

[gynn]

Interesting to see the reaction in the US to the shootings in the cinema in Colorado.

A nutcase is able to buy four guns and 6,000 rounds of ammunition over the internet, perfectly legally and above board.

Any right minded person would immediately ask why, and how do we prevent it from happening again. But apparently not the American public. They are satisfied with the current gun laws, and the Presidential candidates would run a mile before calling for reform.

Fair enough. The victims and their families may get our sympathy, but lets not waste any sympathy whatsoever on such a sick country. Seems like they get the leaders they deserve.

We have had our gun tragedies over here, but at least we have reacted by tightening the gun laws, and apart from on a few thoroughly dodgy Council estates in Manchester and Liverpool, we are gun free.

Lets be grateful for that!

 

[susie123]

We have been here before on Accyweb... posts 43, 58 and onwards.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f80/air-rifles-60943-4.html

Tightening gun laws does very little to prevent crime, it merely puts a lot of hassle in the way of those who use guns legally for sporting or business purposes.

 

[MargaretR]

The yanks are reluctant to surrender their guns because they have too many trigger happy policemen.

 

[cashman]

Plus as they have No real history, Cowboys are the nearest thing.

 

[gynn]

We have been here before on Accyweb... posts 43, 58 and onwards.

...and the gist of that discussion is that responsible people doing responsible things responsibly with guns should be responsibly allowed to get on responsibly with responsibly shooting rabbits or responsibly going about their day to day business responsibly. Moreover, anyone challenging their right to do so is behaving irresponsibly.

Thats fine, but I ask only one thing. Where does a crackpot booby trapping his apartment and going to a cinema and shooting 70 people with legally obtained firearms and ammunition fit into the discussion?

 

[MargaretR]

So you believe what the media have reported

 

[cashman]

So you believe what the media have reported

Damn, Damn, it must be another conspiracy............

 

[susie123]

I ask only one thing. Where does a crackpot booby trapping his apartment and going to a cinema and shooting 70 people with legally obtained firearms and ammunition fit into the discussion?

He doesn't, neither did Derrick Bird in Cumbria nor the guy in Norway a year ago, nor the perpetrators of Hungerford or Dunblane or Columbine. There's no legislating for what goes on in people's minds.

 

[MargaretR]

Damn, Damn, it must be another conspiracy............

....it could be lies with a (gun control) agenda
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f134/cnn-caught-out-telling-porkies-48617.html

Nothing surprises me anymore. If I need to chuckle I watch the news.

 

[cashman]

....it could be lies with a (gun control) agenda
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f134/cnn-caught-out-telling-porkies-48617.html

Nothing surprises me anymore.

Whilst i assume most folk are well aware of the "Tripe" Bullshine" etc given out by the media, most rational folk i reckon wouldn't question this shocking incident!!!.............The irrational ones........Well thats another thing. Everything that happens in life aint a conspiracy.

 

[MargaretR]

When different 'eye witnesses' give widely varying versions you cannot believe any.

If you weren't there, you can't ever know.

 

[cashman]

When different 'eye witnesses' give widely varying versions you cannot believe any.

If you weren't there, you can't ever know.

yeh will always get that wi any tragedy, its called Shock.

 

[gynn]

He doesn't, neither did Derrick Bird in Cumbria nor the guy in Norway a year ago, nor the perpetrators of Hungerford or Dunblane or Columbine. There's no legislating for what goes on in people's minds.

But four guns and 6,000 rounds of ammunition? Are you saying nobody should have questioned why he wanted them? Some proof perhaps that he was registered with a shooting club? Or lived on a farm?

 

[MargaretR]

There was an incident like this which resulted in gun control laws in Australia.
Many of the 'facts' presented at the time were later proved false scientifically.

THE PORT ARTHUR MASSACRE CONSPIRACY by  Joe Vialls

 

[Eric]

But four guns and 6,000 rounds of ammunition? Are you saying nobody should have questioned why he wanted them? Some proof perhaps that he was registered with a shooting club? Or lived on a farm?

I have five guns and about 200 rounds of ammo. No one questions why I have them. I don't belong to a shooting club, or live on a farm.

 

[gynn]

I have five guns and about 200 rounds of ammo. No one questions why I have them. I don't belong to a shooting club, or live on a farm.

So how do you propose preventing the Colorado shootings from happening again, Eric? Shrug your shoulders and say "Oh well, boys will be boys"?

 

[jaysay]

....it could be lies with a (gun control) agenda
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f134/cnn-caught-out-telling-porkies-48617.html

Nothing surprises me anymore. If I need to chuckle I watch the news.

I find I get more out of what little life I have by stop watching the news, something I did around three months ago, whey add depression to your problems after all there's sod all the man in the street can do about it, which has been proved time and again, you elect somebody local to represent you and within a short time they too are part of the establishment

 

[susie123]

I find I get more out of what little life I have by stop watching the news, something I did around three months ago, whey add depression to your problems after all there's sod all the man in the street can do about it

You and me both John, the trouble today is we're bombarded with "news" 24/7 and folks get all worked up about things they see and hear.**** happens and always has whether it's reported or not, you can't change human nature.

 

[susie123]

I have five guns and about 200 rounds of ammo. No one questions why I have them. I don't belong to a shooting club, or live on a farm.

So how do you propose preventing the Colorado shootings from happening again, Eric? Shrug your shoulders and say "Oh well, boys will be boys"?

Why ask Eric? What's your take on the matter? Do you really think "preventing the Colorado shootings from happening again" is realistic? Dream on!

It's possible that some folks, through lack of understanding how anyone could want to have such a thing, thinks that everyone who owns a gun has a screw loose and should be locked up. You could equally well say that someone with a murderous intent could fill their car full of explosives and drive it into a crowded shopping centre. But we don't stop people owning cars.

 

[jaysay]

Why ask Eric? What's your take on the matter? Do you really think "preventing the Colorado shootings from happening again" is realistic? Dream on!

It's possible that some folks, through lack of understanding how anyone could want to have such a thing, thinks that everyone who owns a gun has a screw loose and should be locked up. You could equally well say that someone with a murderous intent could fill their car full of explosives and drive it into a crowded shopping centre. But we don't stop people owning cars.

Well they tried a total ban on handguns in this country over 12 years ago, what good it did I don't know, certainly wouldn't have deterred the criminal, but it did stop genuine shooting enthusiasts from carrying on with the sport, so much so that the British Pistol Shooting Team had to practice in France, while the gangs still carried on shooting each other on the street with great regularity