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cmonstanley · 12-01-2012, 20:16

more soldiers on the dole

Gurkhas to be hit again as armed forces prepare to axe 4,500 jobs | UK news | The Guardian

cmonstanley · 12-01-2012, 20:19

Big Society blow on David Cameron's doorstep - Telegraph ultra lazy post

Margaret Pilkington · 12-01-2012, 21:15

Saves me from having to point this out to you.

cashman · 12-01-2012, 21:32

And thats why i never read yer links anymore.

Mancie · 12-01-2012, 23:29

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Originally Posted by Eric

Just when I thought that there were fewer and fewer differences between your tories and "new" Labour, along comes Lord Astor with this gem: talking of the HS2 rail network, he says that it is a plot by "Northern Labour MPs who relish the thought of the beauty of the Chilterns being destroyed"

A furore normannorum libera nos domine."

Lord Astor..that can't be "call me Dave's" father inlaw

Eric · 13-01-2012, 06:45

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Lord Astor..that can't be "call me Dave's" father inlaw

Come to think of it, the article did mention that

Boeing Guy · 13-01-2012, 06:59

To be fair though, he might have a point. If HS2 is ever built it will cost a fortune to travel on it.
I recently priced up a business trip from Accrinton to London with both Rail and Air.
If I flew from Manchester, I could leave Accrington Station at the same time, transfer trains to and from airports. It was quicker than getting the train and over £100.00 less. In the end I went by car, for more flexibility.

Eric · 13-01-2012, 07:41

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

To be fair though, he might have a point. If HS2 is ever built it will cost a fortune to travel on it.
I recently priced up a business trip from Accrinton to London with both Rail and Air.
If I flew from Manchester, I could leave Accrington Station at the same time, transfer trains to and from airports. It was quicker than getting the train and over £100.00 less. In the end I went by car, for more flexibility.

Somehow I don't think economy and convenience were on his Lordships mind when he made his comment. I think that he fears that northerners might at last get their own back for the "harrowing of the north".

Margaret Pilkington · 15-01-2012, 14:21

C'mon and Mancie....are you heartbroken?
cut to the quick even??
I see that neither of you has deigned to comment on the speech by Ed Balls( Shadow Chancellor) to the Fabian Society yesterday.
The one in which he accepts the public sector pay freeze(and says that if Labour were re-elected) they would stay in place, that he supports the cuts made by the coalition and that they(the Labour party) could give no guarantees that they would reverse any of the changes brought in by the current government.
Isn't this a tacit approval of the fiscal policies implemented by George Osborne....saying that what the coalition has done to improve the financial position of the UK, is the right thing...without actually uttering those words?

I will understand if neither of you want to comment because your emotions are just too raw right now.

Boeing Guy · 15-01-2012, 16:23

Eric, I would imagine they are all in the same boat.
For example Roland Rudd, is Ed Millibands Spin Doctor, but he also represents Wonga.com
Great socialism......as Orwell said, all animals are equals. But some are more equal than others, and that was written by Pigs. Nice analogy

jaysay · 15-01-2012, 16:26

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

C'mon and Mancie....are you heartbroken?
cut to the quick even??
I see that neither of you has deigned to comment on the speech by Ed Balls( Shadow Chancellor) to the Fabian Society yesterday.
The one in which he accepts the public sector pay freeze(and says that if Labour were re-elected) they would stay in place, that he supports the cuts made by the coalition and that they(the Labour party) could give no guarantees that they would reverse any of the changes brought in by the current government.
Isn't this a tacit approval of the fiscal policies implemented by George Osborne....saying that what the coalition has done to improve the financial position of the UK, is the right thing...without actually uttering those words?

I will understand if neither of you want to comment because your emotions are just too raw right now.

I was going to mention that this morning Margaret, but I was waiting for Cmon to put the link on from the Guardian, it seems that George Osborne was right all along, well he must have been seeing that the two Eds now endorse the policy

cashman · 15-01-2012, 16:37

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I was going to mention that this morning Margaret, but I was waiting for Cmon to put the link on from the Guardian, it seems that George Osborne was right all along, well he must have been seeing that the two Eds now endorse the policy

That remains to be seen if yon snotty clown is right, even a brooke bond monkey is aware of the need to reduce costs,

The scale n Timescale of the cuts will determine if they are good fer us or not. But as yeh can see into yer Tory crystal ball,he must be right.

Mancie · 15-01-2012, 23:03

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

C'mon and Mancie....are you heartbroken?
cut to the quick even??
I see that neither of you has deigned to comment on the speech by Ed Balls( Shadow Chancellor) to the Fabian Society yesterday.
The one in which he accepts the public sector pay freeze(and says that if Labour were re-elected) they would stay in place, that he supports the cuts made by the coalition and that they(the Labour party) could give no guarantees that they would reverse any of the changes brought in by the current government.
Isn't this a tacit approval of the fiscal policies implemented by George Osborne....saying that what the coalition has done to improve the financial position of the UK, is the right thing...without actually uttering those words?

I will understand if neither of you want to comment because your emotions are just too raw right now.

It's a surprise but there's no way Labour can support all cuts.. there have to be some cuts such as the Public Sector pay freeze..but if they back the Welfare and NHS "reforms" then there really would be no point voting for them.

garinda · 15-01-2012, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Mancie

It's a surprise but there's no way Labour can support all cuts.. there have to be some cuts such as the Public Sector pay freeze..but if they back the Welfare and NHS "reforms" then there really would be no point voting for them.

Yes, he said as much on the Andrew Marr show, yesterday morning.

Labour now accept they'd have had to make drastic cuts too, if they'd held on to power.

Though when pushed, he couldn't specify what things they would have cut.

The man's as dull as dish water.

I wouldn't vote to put him in charge of a primary school.

Margaret Pilkington · 16-01-2012, 07:08

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Originally Posted by Mancie

It's a surprise but there's no way Labour can support all cuts.. there have to be some cuts such as the Public Sector pay freeze..but if they back the Welfare and NHS "reforms" then there really would be no point voting for them.

Well, that is what he said....that Labour support the cuts...he didn't say some of the cuts.....He also stated that had Labour been re-elected they would have had to make cuts too and that they should have been clearer about that in the pre-election hustings.

Doesn't this just underline that they are all liars? They tell us what they think will get them into power and then once in power, they can do pretty much what they like.
All cut from the same cloth, all in it to feather their own nests at our expense.
Worthless shower of Shwante!