Editing and deleting posts. - Page 2

garinda · 24-02-2011, 23:18

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Originally Posted by Doug

OK, let’s pretend that I’m thick. Is this or is this not a discussion board?

So as not to start another unnecessary thread, I did search, to see if I could just add my comments to an old thread, seeking similar clarification.

I did find a thread started by your good self, which asked similar questions, but it was in the footy section. Hence, new thread.

Neil · 24-02-2011, 23:18

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Originally Posted by Doug

And your going to lay back and take it.........

Now that is just a troll post like the ones you complained about in Stanley section and have been removed.

Doug · 24-02-2011, 23:19

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Nothing I can do but abide by a mods decision whether I agree with it or not

Think most members will have got the gist of how one of our esteemed members can get away with insulting just about everyone as they so please without warning

What about your rights......

Doug · 24-02-2011, 23:25

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Originally Posted by Neil

Now that is just a troll post like the ones you complained about in Stanley section and have been removed.

No Neil; why can't people express themselves; even at the expense of making themselves out to be idiots. This is a message board at the end of the day. Why does it have to be so clean all the time….

Neil · 24-02-2011, 23:34

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Originally Posted by Doug

....Why does it have to be so clean all the time….

It is not "so clean all the time" but a couple of the rules are below

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Abusing Other Members
Abusing other members of this website is not allowed. Debates are welcome but must not become personal or target another member.
All threads started that are personal attacks on other members will be deleted.

Insulting & Nasty Posts
Posts that are just insulting or nasty are not allowed on this website.

They also say this

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Arguments & Disagreements
If you feel a post is not correct or someone’s actions or comments have upset you, you must not start an argument in the forums. Instead, send a Private Message or E-mail to the user and speak to them directly. You must not question the Forum Staff’s actions within the forums but communicate via Private Message or E-mail. The Forum Staff have the final say in all actions that they have taken.

But I think we appear to have a problem that we should discuss so if it can be kept sensible I think we should try and discuss it.

garinda · 24-02-2011, 23:34

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Originally Posted by Neil

Not true at all. You can PM me any time and discuss anything you want. I will reply as soon as I can.

Again, I feel this needs clarifying.

I saw posts had been deleted by a number of members this evening.

The only moderators that are showing as having been online in the last twenty four hours are Stanleymad, who I always assume just moderates the Stanley section, and Mick. Last showing as being online on the forum early mornings, as he normally is.

Why should anyone have thought to pm you?

I know the site as well as most members, but had no idea who had deleted the posts. I assumed it was Stanleymad, as she's the only mod showing as having been online. Though that would have seemed odd, and out of character, if it had been Stanleymad.

I am genuinely failing to see any logic in how these rules have been applied.

There's more I'd like to be able to say, but not wanting to break forum rules, and risk my voice being silenced, I shall air on the side of caution.

Neil · 24-02-2011, 23:36

Sorry if this thread now looks a little confusing but I have removed all the posts from the thread that started this discussion and put them into this one so as not to make the other thread off topic - if that makes sense.

Neil · 24-02-2011, 23:41

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Originally Posted by garinda

Why should anyone have thought to pm you?

You can PM any mod to ask a question. I get emails telling me I have a PM and try to respond asap, these come to my phone same as reports straight away which is why you often get a fast response to reports.

I am showing as offline at the moment because I noticed most of these annoying spammers appear to register/post when no mods are online and I have been deleting quite a few recently. One posted spam tonight but I deleted it almost straight away.

garinda · 24-02-2011, 23:52

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Originally Posted by Neil

It is not "so clean all the time" but a couple of the rules are below

They also say this

But I think we appear to have a problem that we should discuss so if it can be kept sensible I think we should try and discuss it.

I've read the rules many times.

Thank you.

Even though, since this new discussion has started here, and the hacked thread has since been editited further, it is a plain fact that some deleted threads this evening were neither 'argumentative and plain insulting', and until the subject was broached here, at least one post remained untouched, which similarly could be said to be plainly insulting to a named member, and could be said to be rude and offensive to others in general.

As stated, please feel free to reproduce all my own deleted threads, giving the reason they were deleted. To serve as an illustration to others. So we may learn from our grave mistakes, and never attempt humourous posts again.

Neil · 24-02-2011, 23:52

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Originally Posted by garinda

There's more I'd like to be able to say, but not wanting to break forum rules, and risk my voice being silenced, I shall air on the side of caution.

If anyone would like to make any comments but do not want to post in an open thread but wants to do it privately and in confidence please PM me

garinda · 25-02-2011, 00:03

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Originally Posted by Neil

You can PM any mod to ask a question. I get emails telling me I have a PM and try to respond asap, these come to my phone same as reports straight away which is why you often get a fast response to reports.

I am showing as offline at the moment because I noticed most of these annoying spammers appear to register/post when no mods are online and I have been deleting quite a few recently. One posted spam tonight but I deleted it almost straight away.

If I think the only moderator who could possibly help me understand my mistake, was Stanleymad, because it appeared it could only have been her that had edited/deleted the post, then lots of newer members have no chance.

Moderators names appear in heavy black type in the list at the bottom of the page, for those who mightn't know, and who might need to contact one, by the way.

I'm a stickler for playing fair, and trying to abide by the rules, and this has left me very disillusioned, to say the least. It seems very heavy handed, illogical, and in the most, totally unnecessary.

That's the forum.

They are the rules.

I guess I can like it or lump it.

Or I might just not give quite as much of my effort as normal, tryinging to be interesting, and gasp, sometimes even humourous.

garinda · 25-02-2011, 00:11

Call it instinct, or the fact that I'm not actually deaf to actual whispers, but it seems there's all kinds of shenanigans going off backstage, and this to me appears to sometimes spill over onto the forum itself.

If my suspicions are right, they're rarely wrong, that to me seems deplorable, and the beginning of the end, for what can be a very lively forum.

That's my last post on this matter.

Neil · 25-02-2011, 00:15

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Originally Posted by garinda

Moderators names appear in heavy black type in the list at the bottom of the page, for those who mightn't know, and who might need to contact one, by the way.

The report button sends a message to all mods and can always be used and is probably the best way to get a response quickly as one of us will pick it up soon

garinda · 25-02-2011, 06:51

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Originally Posted by garinda

That's my last post on this matter.

Hate going back on my word, but hey ho....

As an example of how posting now seems a bit of a lottery, and rules applied in an arbitrary manner, it seems almost on a whim, I'd like to draw attention to this...

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...y-46638-5.html

A thread in which similar (humorous) insults were flying about, but instread of being deleted, prompted this post...

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Originally Posted by Neil

I would like to thank you both for a really good laugh, I was going to offer you my dueling pistols and suggest a midnight meeting in the park but it would appear they are not needed now

Quite honestly I cannot see the logic in how some posts now face deletion, whilst others remain untouched.

It seems almost whimsical, in whether the rules are strictly adhered to and executed, or not.

Can the difference please be explained?

So we can learn how to avoid all this in the future.

Thanks.

Mick · 25-02-2011, 07:04

Editing and the deletion of posts is at the mods discretion
so will change depending which mod is on site at the time
if you have a problem over this you should report it or pm one of the mods
not go against site rules and put it on site.
having said this the mod who edits or deletes a post should also pm the member with an explanation of the reasons for the action.