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WHAT? Where's your proof? As far as I am aware the Idiot in Chief grew up in Ossy, Whereas I, to my certain knowlege, have NEVER lived in Ossy. I know I am getting a bit long in the tooth and the memory is not what it once was, but I think I would have remembered it, if I did, which I most certainly did not.

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Wynonie has written before how, as a child, he used to play chuff-chuffs with a young Peter in Accrington.

Perhaps you too were in the gang.;)

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Hmmm? The only Peter I knew as a child used to wet himself and smelled a bit and so we threw stones at him. Children can be dreadfully cruel.

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Unfortunately their aim can also be a little inaccurate as well, a decent shot with a Nori might have saved a lot of grief for a lot of people. :D

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Chuck it haste......and repent at leisure.

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Afraid not A-B, young Peter spent his formative years in a shop on the corner of Willows Lane and Charter Street which is just a short stroll down Crossland Street and through the "underground" to Grant Street! As Garinda points out, I know this because I was a youthful playmate of his.

So you see, you're both from the same 'hood! :D

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What can I say? I'm gobsmacked!

I do not recall any child living in either of the shops at the junction of Charter street and Willows Lane. I have racked what is left of my brains but I do not recall either of the occupants being called Britcliffe either. The couple who ran the grocery shop were childless and the couple who ran the Off Licence were too old. There was a third shop opposite the junction but I do not remember that ever being open. There was a small grocery/sweet shop at the top of Crossland Street which was run by an old lady and another facing the top of Crossland Street which I dimly recall having children but they always seemed to me to be a bit of an odd family. And where does Nora Butcher fit into all this????

Anyone care to supplement my memory?????

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May I suggest that you perhaps rent a DVD of the BBC series the League of Gentlemen. In it there was also a local shop, for local people, run by Edward, and his lovely wife Tubs. They also had a child, too grotesque for public view, and kept him chained up in an attic.;)


http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...e+of+gentlemen

http://sandalsandsocks.typepad.com/p...ized/log_1.jpg

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It was the off-licence, A-B! That's where Mr and Mrs Britcliffe lived with their son, Peter in the 50's and 60's. You're right about that family in the shop facing the top of Crossland Street, though!

Sorry about the thread wander, folks, but I'm just passing the time until Gondola comes back with his promised revelations. :)

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Getting back on thread, without wanting to drag the Taxi driver thread back but, as this is supposed to be about councillors fit for purpose, as with the bouquets go the brickbats, has anyone reisigned or been asked to, with regard to the disgracefull handling of this driver being granted a licence to drive a taxi, with a sexual offenders record?, or are all and sundry running round like headless chickens hoping it will dissapear. It may be that the cleaners are busy sweeping it under the carpet, as there has been a pregnant silence for sometime.

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gondola... I read with interest and laugh out really loud.... this "carry on council" we curently put up never fail to amaze me with the depths they will stoop to......... ANYTHING that highlights the incompitancies of "Sid Britcliffe" &"Hattie Battle" over looked by the likes of "Bernard Tanti" & "Barbara Ellis" HAS to be high lighted and put into the mix AND i will always question anyone who finds it necessary to speak or write anything detrimental against such an action.............. BRAVO

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As you appear to think gondola has actually told us anything perhaps you can share it with the rest of us ? :)

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its a pity you cant read into whats being said as quick as you can come up with a respose....

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Yep :rolleyes:

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My god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are one and the same!!!!!!!

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Mindful of the unrelated discussion on here the past day or so, I thought for a moment I had stumbled onto the wrong thread. Such a moment of madness was only made possible by the fact that that the very people who lambasted me with accusations of derailing the other thread were responsible here for deviating from the title of this thread. Fortunately, Ianto has insisted on restoring discussion to matters of importance.

I see thus far, notwithstanding the fact that I have invited others, most notably Councillor Jones, to come up with a name or two of individuals that have resigned their positions of responsibility (forming part of their duties as Councillors), there have been no offerings. In the unlikely event that this information is not known to them, here’s another clue. Jean Battle was on the same Committee as one at the time. Surely that narrows it down somewhat.

I wonder why the resignation was tendered. Was it prompted by an extraordinary misjudgement, or directly attributed to the fact that such woeful actions were considered incongruous with the professed principles of an upstanding member of society that a Councillor ought to be

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Do you not think you'd have got a better response to your thread if you'd have used better, clearer English?

Then we might know what the hell you're waffling on about.

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That is all part of the game he is playing.

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Yeah, solitaire.;)

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He is getting a little boring now.
gondola if you wants to tell us something then just tell us. If not then go and write to the Observer, their readers expect to wait a week for a reply. On a forum we expect it a little quicker than that or we move onto something else.

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I think he is after someones job:rolleyes:

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''we move onto something else''.

You write as though I have made it mandatory for you to visit this thread. I have set up this thread for those that have an interest in it's content. If it leaves you bored, then surely you ought to cease viewing it. Expressing your frustration that it leaves you bored is a little baffling. After all, there are hundreds of different threads on this site for you to vist. Why do you insist on returning to the one that leaves you bored, and then be sufficiently audacious to complain about the same.

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Perhaps because secretly we are all besotted by you and wish we could be you? After all you have such a way with words and an attitude to kill for.:D

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I am just hoping you might actually tell us something interesting instead of waiting until it fits in with your real agenda.

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How condescending. Your superiority knows no bounds. This is an open forum that anyone can comment on. To accuse someone of being bold to complain about your thread is beyond the pale.I say to everyone on here please return as many times as you want and show this odious little man that his insults will not drive you away.I remember the offy at the bottom of Willows lane, if it was the home of the one and only how come no suggestions of a placard or statue?

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I'm just hoping that in amongst all the badly used, and flowery rhetoric, you may actually tell us something of interest....one day.

I'm an optimist.:)

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http://www.rossendale.gov.uk/site/sc...php?newsID=137

Why not borrow some of Rossendales?:D :D :D

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Which method of development did they use? Vacuum pump? :rolleyes:

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Can we not just happen to "recruit em" permenantly and sack HBC ones?

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I'm sure jimmyjim won't mind me quoting him;

"its a pity you cant read into whats being said as quick as you can come up with a respose...."

:yelrotflm

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I don't give out my email address to people that I don't know - however, I have sent you a pm.

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However being a person with low morals I could give you her email, home and mobile numbers along with address date of birth etc for a small fee :D :D :D

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Gayle,

Thank you for that.

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Bored Neil,

I am not interested in personal telephone numbers. After all, I am not seeking a date or some such. Nor I suspect is Gayle.

I am amazed that you continue to maintain an hawkish eye over this thread. It must leave you immensely bored.

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I know im a bit thick and maybe a little senile , so I wiil try to put it into 'lancy' talk, why has 'father' and the rest of the licencing committee who voted for this issue, not gone down the Kazi?

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I can't speak for Neil but I find the content to be boring but the attitude with which it is applied is absolutely fascinating.:)

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Sorry that was my poor attempt at humour.

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It's ok mate you speak for me. I keep getting slapped when I speak for myself :D

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Tell me whose slapping you and we'll get them at playtime.:rolleyes:

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I don't think gondola will turn up at playtime (Saturday night ;)) well if he/she does they wont introduce them self.

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Perhaps by then the Observer will have done a full expose on him and we'll finally find out who 'deep throat' really is?;)

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Ianto,

I refer to your post (135). It is a question I have been asking myself. I note from the Accrington Observer today that Mr Britcliffe is astounded and appalled that Councillor Jones is raising the awareness of some issues at the time of the elections. Frankly, I cannot think of a better time for such issues to be raised. After all, it is about the only time such matters get taken seriously by political parties since they are keen to secure votes. What exactly does Mr Britcliffe want the voting public to be exposed to, if not issues that affect them directly?

Since Mr Britcliffe insists it is not good form to discuss such matters, I shall turn my attention to something entirely different. How about the merits of Mr Kazi as the next Mayor of Hyndburn, which I understand he is seeking to become.

Here is my view. I cannot think of a more appalling nomination. I jest not.

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Neil,

You are right. I shall not be attending on Saturday. Perhaps because I shall be too busy detailing my personal life to the Observer for the 'expose'

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Incidentally, I think Councillor Jones is conspicuous by his absence. I hope he has not received a slap on the wrists by the 'cleaners'?

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The role of Mayor, the council leadership, and for that matter the whole council should be abolished and replaced by a “People's Protectorate”… this committee would have the power to bring to book anyone who’s actions are not deemed to be in line with the overall good of the people (what is deemed to be for the good of the people will be decided by the said committee).

At this juncture I humbly put myself forward as the Chairman of the People's Protectorate of Accrington. :)

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:eek: :eek: :eek: , Mancie has been on the Stones Ginger wine (told you it was good stuff) and listening to Gilbert and Sullivan , can I apply for the position of Lord High Executioner (one lying thieving snivelling politician a week is all I ask) :cool: :cool: :cool:

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Any ideas about who the first one politician to get the chop should be.

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I personally see the role of Mayor as unnecessary and quite frankly a waste of public money.

Maybe you or someone else could enlighten me as to the purpose and worth of having a Mayor.

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So that we can block Broadway with a fairground ride and thus prevent the shopkeepers on there from making any profit, after all we don't want a thriving town centre do we? :rolleyes:

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Gondola, lighten up - Neil was joking and if you'd care to read any other threads you'll see that there is plenty of banter that flies around.

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He was Joking? Well I paid Neil a tenner for each number, is that why it's always on answerphone? Would I be able to get my money back even though I haven't got a receipt?:D

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Mr Britcliffe does not consider the recent monstrous blunder by the Licensing Committee sufficiently important for it to be an election issue. However, for purposes of establishing a basis for comparative evaluation I submit below a link to the recent decision to expel a Headteacher who made a similar gaffe. At least in that case heads have rolled and rightly so, notwithstanding the fact that the offender never had any contact with children.

The reason for dismissal appears to have been the fact that procedures were not followed for whatever reason. A failure to do so may have led to potentially devastating consequences. So why can we not have the same outcome in this matter i.e those members that voted in favour be suspended from their duties until the investigation is completed. Further if it is found that they did not adhere to the rules, then they should be made to go.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/6506613.stm

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Heads that rolled, was that an attempt at humour? You may be normal after all. I was starting to think you were a Southerner :D

I take it you were waiting till Friday so you could post the outcome of that hearing.

That is what should happen but with a couple of Tories that should go that will not happen will it?

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I'm beginning to think gondola is still on dial up, he nips in makes a post then logs out straight away, this thread must be costing him a fortune, so Working on the theory of how they treat our money, He could be a Councillor!:clown:

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Maybe he logs out but still keeps an eye on the thread as a guest.

Unless all the guests watching this thread work at HBC :D

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''That is what should happen but with a couple of Tories that should go that will not happen will it?''

Well, in that case the voting public ought to make sure they take the matter into their own hands. The simplest way would be to make it known to their Ward candidate that they refuse to vote for him/her on the basis that their views are not considered appropriate in matters of importance. If others were to do the same, indubitably the political parties would have to take notice.

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Awww, you know I gave you my number ages ago! ;)

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So far as regards the view that the role of Mayor should be banished, I have no real view. However, on balance I think the Mayor can serve to act as an ambassador or some such for a Town, and if the person selected is credible can promote the interests of residents. This I am mildly of the view that the role ought to be continued, provided the person is of distinction in terms of service.

However, having someone like Kazi Siddique in such a position (I am reliably informed that he remains confident of being selected as the next Mayor) can only be an impediment to the interests of the residents of Hyndburn. Can anyone here point out to me what good, if any, Mr Siddique has done since being elected as Councillor? No, thought not.

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Well I don't know anything about Cllr Siddique but I do know that Cllr Rahman has been an excellent Mayor for Hyndburn. He is possibly one of the hardest working men I've ever met and he is also one of the nicest. He fulfills all his official duties with a wonderful smile on his face and his wife is elegant and gracious.

A Mayor can be an excellent asset to an area if they are a good Mayor. They can be ambassadors for the area both inside the area and outside it. If the Mayor attends a function it gives it a certain level of gravitas and support.

PS - if you invite the Mayor to attend your event the press usually comes along and takes a picture so you get extra publicity for your events. :D

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yes 118 118 it costs me a fortune each time I try to contact you!:mad:

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I agree. Councillor Rahman has been a good Mayor. Of course, he combined such duties with his demanding role as a G.P. However, Mr Siddique, like many other councillors unfit for the role, does not have a job. Nor has he had one for the entire time he has been a Councillor I suspect. Thus he surely must have had more opportunity than Mr Rahman to contribute to Hyndburn. I ask again, what contribution has he made?

Thus, with little if any contribution, is it right that he be given the role of Mayor?

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Hmm, not only could he be a councillor but a councillor that is upset by not being offered his rightful position of his Worship the mayor for yet another year!:D

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Gayle wrote: Well I don't know anything about Cllr Siddique

I am well aware that you are involved with many community groups in Hyndburn. I also note that Mr Siddique is the Portfolio holder for Community Cohesion. This I am staggered that you know nothing of him. Surely an integral part of his duty must be dealing with the community groups and the community in general.

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You are quite right, I am a member of a number of community groups but at no point have I had any contact with Cllr Siddique - however, I doubt whether he'd want to join Hyndburn Women's Forum or be involved with a drama group.

I suppose the one you would imagine that he might get involved in would be the Mela and Community Festival - he has not attended any meetings of that, however, Cllr Brian Roberts has been a regular attendee so we have had council representation.

And, in all fairness to Brian, he has been a valuable member of the committee lately and has delivered when he's said he would.

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No Gondola, I am simply saying that I have had little contact with him, but I also pointed out that it is unlikely that some of the groups that I am involved with would come under his remit.

As for the Mela committee - that is attended by a councillor who's remit (I think) is culture and leisure and therefore we would hardly expect to have two councillors turn up.

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For what reason, other than to be able to produce such evidence in a court of law would you need to save any of the posts from accyweb? We are only having discussions.

I have said it before and I'll say it again,

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I dont trust him either i smell a dodgey .... gondola:eek:

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If anyone is considered for selection to as you say be an ambassador for the Borough, it should be at least ascertained that they are able to chew gum and walk down the street in a straight line at the same time.

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Don't do that rindy it's coming up to my birthday soon have you forgotten that night of my earlier birthday, we could do it again!:drink::drink:

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This is better viewing than UTube

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:rofl38: true it has its entertainment & gondy is the jester:D

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Ianto wrote: If anyone is considered for selection to as you say be an ambassador for the Borough, it should be at least ascertained that they are able to chew gum

I’m not sure chewing gum is his strength. It is rumoured to me that he has a few front teeth missing, though I am not able to confirm the same. Gayle stated this morning that the current Mayor has served his town with a smile. If it is the case that Siddique has a few teeth missing, a frown may be more appropriate than a smile when being photographed.

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Garinda.

Gondola.

Both start with a G and end with an A, and share seven letters.

It's fate he came here.;)

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Though one professes to favour the truth, the other seemingly seeks to suppress it.

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put them both together and you get:-

Gala on a odd ring

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Truth:confused: more like a load of male genitailia!!

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You'll have to arrange to meet at the DogInn:D

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:D I'm beginning to worry about you.

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In my reply I said anyone gondola, The current Mayor of this Borough has been a credit to it, as he is to his profession, and a true gentleman.

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You get something else too but I'm far too ladylike to say a thing like that. :eek:

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I'd like to know as well as others have pointed out is why gondy seems to go offline as soon as he posts then comes back again with a reply - does that assume he has to revert to his handbook on the next nonsencial reply or he has a very poor net connection :confused:

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P.M. Me, I'll put it on for you. :D (and no-one will know it was you).

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Suspect this thread is a build up to April 1st

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Ianto,

Quite. The current Mayor has been a tremendous asset to Hyndburn. If Siddique is selected as the next Mayor then I can state in advance that he would be nothing save a liabilty.

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Did u get that from a book notice u go off no soon as u post:confused:

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A darling! O, 'n' a dog.;)

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:rofl38: probably off to research an answer for me that makes no sence lol:D

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Well DOG INN comes out of the pair LOL!!!!!!!:D

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Less posted it but I can't imagine where he got it from ;)

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Those that have concerns about the conduct or insouciance of some councillors ought to present their case in writing prior to the AGM on the 17th of May at the Council Chambers. They should propose that it be admitted as a formal reslution, though I suspect this would not be allowed. Additionally they should do the same for thye meeting on the 19th of May.

Another way to make known frustrations is prior to the AGM, by casting your vote at the elections.

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You clearly have concerns - will you be making a formal complaint?

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Perhaps you can't log in under 2 usernames at the same time. :rolleyes: :D

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Hopefully the mods have checked that.

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For the avoidance of doubt, I have only one identity. I see no reason to adopt another.

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Yes you can, just use Firefox for one and Internet Explorer for the other. Or use more than one PC.
Oops did I say that aloud? :D :rolleyes:

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Erm yes virtually straightaway - just watch shhhhh:D

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Gee took your time just with that reply - was that the best u could say in longwinded sence:confused: