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Councillors in Hyndburn - Are they fit for purpose?
This thread has been set up to encourage discussion about Councillors in Hyndburn, and the extent to which they represent those that elect them. Do you feel they have taken up the role to promote their own interests, or do you consider that that they are seeking to improve the Borough of Hyndburn?.
Do some members of the public consider that their voice is not being heard because they refuse to vote for the candidates put forward? Is there any merit in having a discussion about reviewing the process of selection?. Discuss. |
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That would depend on your motives as with the law's of libel, one has to be carefull, as you have not disclosed your interest in the site, and as far as I can see you have only contributed to one subject thus far.:confused:
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Here is what I wrote about an article in the Observer re comments by Councillor Jones:
1)At the risk of getting shouted down I wish to raise a point that is slightly off topic. Councillor Jones yesterday suggested that there existed 'other skeletons in the cupboard'. He may have a point, and readers have commended him for his tenacity in persevering with this issue, as well as his integrity in ensuring that this issue was not swept under the carpet. However, I would like to draw his attention, if I might, to another issue where his judgement has to be questioned, especially since in that matter it appeared that he was seeking to score 'political points' (something, absurd though the suggestion may be, I was accused of). I refer to his comments in the Accrington Observer, dated the 9th of March, 2007. For the benefit of readers this article referred to the candidate for the Church Ward, Mr Safdar, who had conveniently switched sides from Labour to the Conservative Party. Councillor Jones questioned his motives and stated ''We [the Labour Party] found out that he had approached the Conservatives three months earlier, offering to stand for them if he was'nt selected as a Labour Canadidate. Based on that I think the public can make up their own minds about Safdar. That was part of the reason why he was not selected by Labour and good luck to him''. My question is this. If the Labour Party were aware three months earlier about Mr Safdar's motives, why then did they allow him a couple of months later to contest the candidacy? Moreover, at the time a candidate had already been selected by the Labour Party (who later stepped aside), and thus Mr Safdar had known back then that he had not been selected and thus approached the Conservatives. Yet when the other candidate stepped aside, with the knowledge that Safdar had attempted to switch sides the Labour Party considered it right and proper to potentailly select as a candidate a man who they now suggest has a lack of integrity. Surely had he won the internal selection when the vote took place (several months after Councillor Jones had become aware of his attempt to switch sides), that would have meant that the Labour Party would have been asking members of the public to vote for a man they knew had sought to side with the Tories. Surely that is not morally justifiable? More distrubing than that, is that according to the community grapevine, Safdar has been campaigning in the Church Ward assisted by a former Labour Councillor and still current member of the Labour Party. It makes a mockery of the principle of Party politics. Councillor Jones should, if he knew that Safdar had changed sides several months earlier, have raised the issue with his Party and Safdar ought not to have been put forward as a candidate for an internal vote. |
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Here's the response Mr Jones gave me:
The papers print bits of what is usually said. Safdar was behaving funnily and associating himself with Conservatives. He had done some bleating about selection. I was not told this until the day of selection when I raised the matter with Central Ward members because Safdar had issued threats to me the day before about the selection. "If the Labour Party don't select me I will get my own back, you'll see" I was told Safdar's behaviour had been one of disloyalty to his colleagues and there was no chance he would be selected. Central Ward members had an idea of what Safdar was up to. He wasn't selected. About a week later a Tory told me they he had done a deal with them (with Peter Britcliffe) about 3 months earlier. To defect if labour did not select him. In fact that Tory told me then that he had hinted at the deal to me about a month before and I wasn't quick on the up take. PB had been running around for about 2 months boasting of a another defector (last year it was Dennis Baron). So in the end it all came out. Hope that clears it up Gondola. |
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To which I responded:
Not quite. You state that there was no chance he would be selected. On the contrary, there was every chance. In fact the internal vote was marginal, as you know, and swung in favour of the other candidate by the vote of just one member. Thus had that member voted the other way, Safdar would now be the Labour Party candidate for the Central Ward. In the press, you have been reported to say that his prearrangement with the tories 'was just one of the reasons he was not selected'. I put it to you that the prearrangement had no influence in his selection. If it had, he would not have been put forward for the selection process. The only reason that he was not selected was because he marginally lost out (by one vote) to the other candidate in an internal selection process. There is little point in avoiding the truth. |
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His final response on the issue was:
First of all you know a lot more than me. I have just had it confirmed Safdar lost by one vote. So Gondola, for you to be at the centre of Asian politics in Central Ward, seemingly backing Safdar (Lab to Tory defector) BUT against Mr Allah Dad (Tory chair of Taxi Licensing) is interesting. Safdar had old Labour supporters voting for him becuase if his years in the party, and Ayub the younger members voting for him because they wanted change. The Safdar to Tory pact is now well documented, he had cut a deal ahead of selection. The deal was not exactly known but his daliances where. I am told Safdar's flirtations with the Tories over many years led to the younger Central Ward Labour Party members voting for Ayub. All very interesting |
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I note from the local press, that Councillor Jones asserts that there have been 'mutterings and rumblings' about licensing issues for years. Further, he is said to have indicated that 'Councillor Britcliffe knows there are skeletons in the cupboard'
Perhaps Mr Jones would care to elaborate. Moreover, do such skeletons infer that there are other cases of reinstatement of licences when clearly the facts suggested a decision to the contrary would have been more appropriate. No point sitting on the fence Mr Jones. Let's have it out. |
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In fact, i think residents of Hyndburn ought to take up the issue with the Member Of Parliament. Perhaps they should ask him if he considers it right and proper that a councillor that downplays the significance of a taxi driver assaulting a female passenger, should be part of a committee formalising strategy on community safety.
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I rather cheerfully recommend that those Councillors on the Judicial Committee that reinstated the licence resign their postions on this Commitee, effective immediately. It is readily obvious to most constituents they represent that their judgement is at best flawed, possibly worse (I decline further commentary on this issue at this stage for fear of making an egregious remark).
The decision in itself was remarkable, but was made more deplorable by the fact that one Committee member was female (Councillor M.Haworth), and another member (Councillor A. Dad) is a representative on the Community Safety and Wellbeing Committee. This is an absurd joke |
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Nor, do we need you to finish your post with discuss, if we find it interesting we will discuss, if we don't then we won't discuss, this isn't a college course on Social Studies it is a local forum. :rolleyes: |
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I also would have a lot more respect for you gondola if you were to reveal your true identity and stopped trying to make your posts look like you swallowed a thesaurus. I make full use of the Queens English but I am finding your posts tiresome to read as you feel you must use 'elaborate' language when a good old plain simple answer would suffice.
Come on be brave either let us know who you are (as teh people you seem fond of attacking have done) or shut up. My father told me "always be prepared to put your name to what you say or don't say owt at all" |
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I suspect Gondola is unable to reveal his/her true identity as it would probably jeopardise his/her job.
I can understand and appreciate that because there are times when using my real name has meant that I've been unable to say what I really think or spill the dirt on something. I suspect that there are many people in Scaitcliffe House who are also currently trying to find out who Gondola is. |
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The question that I would like to ask then is if gondola(or even yourself Gayle) disagrees with something such that you feel you can't write about it here or anywhere else in the public domain under your own identity what are you doing to protest about it? If it was a reasonably regular occurrance then I would be questioning why I was doing the job in the first place. Perhaps I have more scruples than some but I would find it impossible to keep my mouth shut for the sake of a wage packet. |
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well he seems to have got you lot wound up good n proper
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I find it remarkable that others are obsessed with my identity. I think it is not my identity that is important, but the information I submit. Thus far, I have not seen Mr Jones suggest anything I have submitted is wrong. |
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Maybe gondola (deep throat) has been watching to many spy films.. next thing we know he/she will be wanting to meet up in some unlit carpark! :D
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I suspect that you can't say who you are and I for one respect that. There are things that I won't discus on here for reasons I don't intend to explain and you should not have too either. I think you got off on the wrong foot with this forum. We are a fairly close knit group and don't like new members coming on insulting us. You have to have been a member for a few weeks at least to get away with that :D. |
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What a strange little thread this is. Wading through the otiose revelations submitted by "gondola" I am struck by the lack of any real meat to this story. So Councillor Jones took his eye of the ball for a moment and failed to disbar a potentially disloyal candidate from standing at an internal selection poll - none of us are perfect, a fact I feel sure Graham will agree applies as equally to himself as to others. As it happens no harm was done since, if I read the story correctly, the offending candidate was not successful. I am a little puzzled by the motive behind this somewhat squalid attempt to paint Graham as either inept or deliberately disingenuous. If, as I and other forum members suspect, "gondola" is an employee of HBC, then I would have thought that the time spent ferreting out and reporting on this non-story would have been better spent doing the job he or she is paid to do. That council employees appear to have little better to do with their time than indulge in pointless mud slinging should give us all cause for concern and is perhaps one of the main reasons why the borough is in such a complete and utter mess. To be fair however, I do agree that the Taxi Licensing issue is something that could do with a pretty sharp bit of sorting out, if the council is not to loose the trust and respect of the vast majority of the electorate. |
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''So Councillor Jones took his eye of the ball for a moment and failed to disbar a potentially disloyal candidate from standing at an internal selection poll''
It is not a case of taking your eye off the ball. I am not suggesting Councillor Jones is to blame for this. But it was his comments in the press that made me raise the question. Here is my point, in simple terms: 1) The Labour Party were aware that Mr Safdar (then a Labour Party member) had held discussions with the Conservative Party. Apparently, someone had spoken to Councillor Jones about it. 2) The basis for the discussions was that Mr Safdar would seek to stand as a Labour Councillor, and that if he failed he would move to the Tories. Thus, according to Councillor Jones, he was not interested in assisiting his party, but becoming a Councillor irrespective of whom he stood for. 3) Knowing his 'dalliances' with the Conservative Party, the Labour Party still put him forward as a potential candidate. I appreciate he did not win, but potentially he could have, and the decision was a close one. 4) The net import is therefore, that had he won, doubtless the Labour Party would have been distributing leaflets saying what a wonderful candidate he was and why people should vote for him. When he did'nt win, they turn round and say 'Oh by the way, he is in it for himself, and we realised 3 months ago that he did not give two hoots about which party he stood for as long as he became a councillor' My point is this. If three months ago they realised that he was not a suitable candidate because of his integrity, then they should have told him in no uncertain terms then. It strikes me as being a little hypocritical to do it now. But my view remains the same. Mr Safdar is not someone I would vote for in a million years. |
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You may have a point. But then the same or similar accusation could be made regarding the Conservative group when the Idiot in Chief decided to chuck his hat into the ring. But I don't hear anyone berating them for not telling the monstrously rapacious and imbecilic Britcliffe where to go and what to do when he got there.
Speaking personally, I wouldn't vote for any of them, irrespective of their political affiliations. HBC and it's officers lost my trust years ago. It strikes me that this is a council that makes a virtue of hypocrisy. |
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Acrylic Bob,
I am not here to defend the Conservatives. I have already stated my views in relation to some of their Councillors. You suggest Britcliffe was not lambasted for something he did, but I know not quite what you are referring to. Perhaps you can enlighten me. It is obvious however that you do not care much for Mr Britcliffe. You may well have your reasons, though as a newcomer to this site I am certainly not aware of what these reasons may be. So far as regards the role of the Lic. Committee, I think you are right. Something needs to be done. I would rather cheerfully recommend that to start the process rolling Mr Dad, Chair of the Lic. Committee resign from his role as member of the Community Safety and Wellbeing Committee. Surely, since he voted in favour in relation to the matter reported in the press last week, his idea of 'safety' is one that is in contrast to what everyone else thinks. Just what issues does he think are important in terms of community safety? It is akin to having Ken Dodd in charge of the Inland Revenue. |
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If we are discussing recommendations for action, I would be happy to recommend that the whole council be held responsible for the lax and clearly partial way in which the Licensing Committee has operated. Why has the Idiot in Chief, who pretends to be so sensitive to the wishes of the electorate, not fallen upon the heads of the said committee in the manner of the proverbial ton of bricks? Why is Councillor Jones so silent upon the issue? Why are other Taxi Drivers not demonstrating their outrage at the decision to return the licence? Presumably they are all staunch adherants of Islam, and as such, one would naturally expect that they must be mortified at the prospect of being compelled to work with someone convicted of such a shameful offence. But, of course, nothing will happen. Because HBC is institutionally incapable of self examination and pathologically immune to criticism. |
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I don't think it is cowardice to remain incognito regarding the subject matter that he's publishing - there is always the possibility that he will be found out. As Neil said, we are a curious bunch and unless Gondola is the most discreet person in the world I'll bet that at some point he/she lets slip to someone. |
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''that the whole council be held responsible for the lax and clearly partial way in which the Licensing Committee has operated. Why has the Idiot in Chief, who pretends to be so sensitive to the wishes of the electorate, not fallen upon the heads of the said committee in the manner of the proverbial ton of bricks? Why is Councillor Jones so silent upon the issue?''
Some very salient points. Someone has to take responsibility for this. It is imperative that the reason for failing to implement the rules is ascertained. Those that have shown a complete disregard for them need to explain as to why they felt it right so to do. Unless there was clear justification (which frankly I cannot see), then heads need to roll. In defence of Councillor Jones, he has at least shown some tenacity in appearing on these threads and expressing his disenchantment at the whole affair. |
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However all I can see from these pathetic outbursts of yours is a frustrated human who thinks, (falsely), for some reason he/she is far superior to we, mere mortals and that we need to be shown the error of our ways. Or do you see yourself as some form of Agent Provocateur? Hoping that in your own simple mind you can get some mileage that will boost your ego a little bit more, (lets face it the whole of your posts drips of an over-inflated ego so it couldn't get much bigger). Maybe you have a really wild plan to tempt one of our members to say something that could be used in a court of law somewhere thus removing accyweb? Perhaps it has become a thorn in the side of someone you hold very dear? Please excuse these ramblings, I like you have an over active imagination and often read sinister plots where there aren't any. However, I have jumped to one very crucial conclusion and that is:- I don't trust you, I do not believe you are here on accyweb for either the good of the site or any of it's members and I would recommend that until you prove yourself different to the first impressions you have given that all members be very wary of what they say to you. http://www.thoughttheater.com/upload...ked_tongue.jpg This one talks with forked tongue! :mad: |
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Your unjustified abuse towards me is noted. It is often said that less is more. That certainly applies in your case. I strongly recommend to you, less abuse, more facts.
You do not have to read this thread if it agitates you. I suggest you calm down and grab yourself a hot cup of soup or some such. It appears to me that you are seeking to defend those who are clearly deserving of criticism here. Are you from the Britcliffe Brigade? |
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Less remarked 'I don't trust you'
Well, I certainly would not expect you to trust anyone you clearly do not know. That assertion is palpably absurd. However, rather than doubt my integirty, answer the following: Is there anything I havbe posted that you, or any other poster on here including some of the councillors, have found to be incorrect? No, thought not. |
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come on..gondola could be "close" to the council.. but then anyone who lives on Omerod Street is close...he/she could be on of the cleaners, we all know if you really want to know whats going on at these establisments, ask the security guard or the cleaners!
This is the sort of stuff newspapers live on... "a source close to" told are reporter, or "an undisclosed official" is reported to have said. It's all complete hear say and means squat diddly! |
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You honestly cannot expect a debate nor discussion once you insult the majority of the message board, why so defensive about your ID when u kick up a fuss of judging someones elses username. You seem to miss the point completely that you have simply lost it with everyone here & have made yourself suspicious by your motives - yet you are still bating for scraps of meat here which i dont see the point - people have made themselves crystal clear!
So get a clue will you & dont slam the door on your way out:rolleyes: |
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Less,
I find your approach rather startling. I do not recall having held any discussion with you, yet you appear on this thread and question my motives for posting here, suggesting that I am seeking to disrupt these forums. You do not have a shred of evidence to support this view, and when I suggest you calm down rather than direct such ill judged comments towards me, you take that as abuse. I think it is a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black. |
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I don't trust you, I do not believe you are here on accyweb for either the good of the site or any of it's members and I would recommend that until you prove yourself different to the first impressions you have given that all members be very wary of what they say to you.
I agree with that statement, cos i am stupid. |
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Gondola seems quite happy to throw a few wordy bones into the fray, but there is so little meat on them, that I'm more inclined to suckle on my own gristley stump, than bother entering into any non-discussion.
Less waffle, and mroe substance please, as quite frankly it's becoming boring. |
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I think I have figured out the motives of some of the posters on here who are seeking to discredit me. They keep pasting posts were I have made comments to others, for example Chav, in the hope that they can agglomerate the others into a close knit fraterntiy which will render my remarks discredited.
It is rather transparent. Whehte or not readers listen here is immaterial in the scheme of things. Rest assured, there is a plethora of material at my disposal, and I propose to start releasing it in due course, not necessarily here. You may not like to ensure elected members be held accountable for their actions. I, on the other hand do. |
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Incidentally, whilst I may have exchanged a few heated words with Chav, were sufficiently mature to draw a line under it. In fact, subsequent to that exchange, he provided me with information I requested.
Thus, by way of example, he has proved far more magnanimous than those seeking to defend his corner. |
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All right, Gondola, let's enter a debate. You say in the other thread that you do not feel that the independent candidate is truly independent, can you elaborate on that?
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You've not really said anything worthwhile, just a load of empty rhetoric. If you come up with something of substance worth debating, you'll find many people here will enter in to a debate, and more than likely whup your ass.:D |
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'You say in the other thread that you do not feel that the independent candidate is truly independent'
When did I say that? |
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Some people would have been called pond life if they misspelt words like that :rolleyes: :D :D |
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You could be talking rubbish for all we know... anyone could type out a load of tat..do a quick spell check.. and "hey presto".. I am a mole from the council..:D speaking for myself I don't like "knarks", and if you feel so strongly about letting the people of Accrington know about wrong doings within the council then speak out in public. To hide behind the threat of losing your job if you do spill the beans is pathetic..and a main reason for voters to feel they can't trust councillors. That said please do carry on posting.. at least it got some members out of hiding and is all a jolly good show. :) |
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I'm still concerned about his use of lower case 'i', when referring to himself. i (sic) think he must have a poor self image.:D |
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Mancie,
I see Graham Jones in his reposne confirmed everything I stated. He certainly did'nt deny it. Now why do you think that is. Because I was wrong? No, thought not. |
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So although I didn't join in on there, I read the other thread that you attempted to hi-jack and I feel I am getting to know you very quickly. I have every right as a member of this site to question the motives of any other member of this site and your motives are as yet very unclear but extremely suspect. Can I ask you to go into your bathroom take a long hard look at what stares back at you from the mirror in there and consider, is what I see before me something my parents would be proud of? Is this really what they brought me up to be? If you can answer yes to any of these questions, you are probably lying. Now if you do not wish to contribute anything worthwhile will you please do as accymel requested. :) |
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Im off to the pub for a Whisky.
Cheerio now |
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Gondola if you dont like the councillors hyndburn have got at the moment or standing in May why dont you stand. All you have to do is go down to the Town Hall and pick up a set of nomination papers and get 10 people to sign them then canvass your way round the ward you have chosen to stand in and see what happens.
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I am assuming you don't know how to quote what someone has said like I have above. Here is a quick explanation to help you out. If you click the quote button on the bottom right of someones post it starts a reply with their quote in it. It makes it much easier for us to read and understand who you are quoting. It is also easier for you. You can remove some of their quote if you like but make sure you leave the words quote and /quote in with square brackets around them at the beginning and end of the quote or it will not show correctly. |
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Central Ward Labour Party - As I understoood it.
A Tory hinted to me about people's alliances not being upfront a month before selection. He meant Safdar but short of being pyschi or good cryptically I missed the point. I was always aware second hand from a distance what was happening in Central Ward. Touring all 17 branches for meetings is not practical when they are functioning democratically. Safdar (in my mind) had always been available. Tories and Labour do a lot of talking to each other but people had mentioned Safdar as one who spoke too much with the Tories. You can only do something about it if you have evidence. Safdar told me the day before he was standing which was surprising as his name had never come up with anyone I had spoken to fromm Central Ward. In fact the main contender, someone very popular, dropped out of selection which left it a bit open upon shortlisting. I speak with the yonger members and Ayub was spoken about very highly. It was widely predicted he would be nominated on merit. Good candidate, nice lad. Safdar told me the night before selction he was standing and 'he'd better win (or else)". I told him that wasn't the right attitude. If he lost he should be gracious and offer his support to the winner like he would expect if he was selcted. Safdar said; "I will don't worry, I am not disloyal". I said Central has elections next year and the runner up should take advantage of that for next year. Safdar agreed totally. It was a dodgy conversation. I suspected something wasn't right with Safdar. I rang around a couple off CW members. I got a different picture. Safdar won't win. He's been talking to the Tories too much. Kazi and Allah Dad, spending a lot of time with them. Safdar lost, I did not know by how many. Then the phone rang. Safdar immediatly had gone to the Tories. No-one was surprised though no one knew he had ACTUALLY done a deal. I was told by a Tory the deal was nailed months previously. So that put some flesh on well founded suspicions. Safdar could not have been barrred. There was no proof of a deal. I was told he would lose. It eneded up close as Safdar got older members to the meeting in support of him for his years of service as I understand it. Press ring up a week or so later. I say what I said which was pretty much accurate. 2+2 had made 4. Yes I did speak with a bit of hindsight but it was true Safdars actions prior to selection where know and that was in the minds of CW LP members. They told me so when I discoverd Safdar had put his name forward. So I think I was jsutified in what I said. There is an alternate theory. Can't say any of it is true. Kazi knows he will beat Safdar as a weak candidate and had entered into an alliance whereby Safdar as the Labour candidate would lose and Kazi would be indebted to Safdar. Kazi knows he may well lose to Ayub who is a nice lad, straight, hard working and honest. As Gondola knows, we had LP monitors in observing the process. |
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Gondola, there's something very funny about you. Your strange, stilted, archaic prose style is reminiscent of the great novelists of the 19th century. It's almost as if you're playing a character from a novel by Arthur Conan Doyle or Edgar Allen Poe. Then, just once in a while the mask drops and you say something normal like "I'm off to the pub for a whisky."
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Wynonie Harris,
Your comments are duly noted. The whisky was jolly impressive . I had been saving a bottle or two to celebrate the resignation in disgrace, for so I suppose, of those unfit to represent upstanding members of society. But the very thought was enough to turn a man to drink. More on that later, of that you can be assured. |
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I never really followed the story closely as it unfolded. From what i've read so far it seems blindingly obvious that the license shouldn't have been given back. Am I missing something that made certain councilors vote for the license to be reinstated?
I can see why some of you might be annoyed or have a dislike for gondola, the way he writes is probably interpreted as quite aggressive because it's somewhat intellectual, however I don't think he means it to come across that way. I shall watch this unfold with interest, hopefully somebody can explain anything im missing. :) |
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Thank you for the valuable insight, allowing readers to gasp at the lamentable antics from representatives of the mainstream parties in the Central Ward. Surely no one in Hyndburn can prosper from such stupidity, save those seeking to elect themselves. It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his job depends on not understanding it. The thesis that Safdar would not have been elected on the basis that he had been ‘talking to the Tories’ is as laughably foolish as the notion that he found support from ‘older members’ as a result of his robust service to the party over the years. One only has to consider the profiles of current Councillors of Asian origin to note that most have at some stage been affiliated to both Labour and the Conservatives, either as members, candidates or serving councillors. Thus the assertion that there is a strong sense of party loyalty is tenuous at best. The alternate theory you propose sounds far more plausible. In fact I think it likely, though like yourself I have no tangible evidence to prove the same, save to point out that this is not the first time I have heard this. Indubitably, Safdar would not have been successful in the Central Ward. The odds were clearly stacked against him, and thus there may have been other reasons for him seeking the candidacy. I decline further commentary on this issue, for fear of making an egregious remark. Separately, I am not sure if Safdar thought through the likelihood of success in the Church Ward. In my considered view, the chances of him being elected are increasingly moribund. All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. I shall return later in the week. |
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Thank you for that. It makes it easier on the eye. |
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You seem to think I am Zen and know everything about everything, I am not and I don't. Only knowing 95% of an issue should not disbar someone from passing comment 'in the debate' who can offer some light on a matter of interest. |
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Does this mean if we are all placid we are thick ? Is it intellectual to call people names like pond life because they aren't as 'intellectual' as somebody else ? He/She is purely ignorant and intolerant of others, nothing to do with intellect I'm afraid. |
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Is this meant to be a comedy thread? It's certainly reading like one. I love the way gondola insults other members and then accuses someone else of abuse. That part is a pure gem.
I did explain the use of the quote button earlier but I must be one of those numpty pondlife types who just aren't worth listening to. |
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Willow - amidst all the efforts to identify me, I must have missed your post seeking to offer assistance. I thank you for that, albeit rather belatedly.
Spuggie - for the avoidance of doubt, I am smart. With a characteristic sense of modesty Wynonie - the comments were only noted for purposes of responding. Fear not, there is no such blacklist!! |
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I think readers would like me to divulge more information. It will serve to ensure the story does not go stale. There is plenty more to come, of that you can be assured. What has been stated so far means that we are only at the foothills. I am in the process of revealing the next item. It shall be ready over the next few days. I shall be frugal in relation to what it is right now, but here's a clue. Let me ask you this. From which Committee's or Boards have Conservative Councillors resigned in the past few years? Why? Leave the explanation to me. Or indeed ask some of the Labour Councillors. I suspect they know only too well. Let's begin with one Ward at a time. Back on Friday. |
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Here's another clue to start the process rolling.
Perhaps Councillor Jones can ask Councillor Jean Battle to reveal the name of the first Councillor to whom I refer, as well as the Committee from which this Councillor resigned. |
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Does anyone know what the world record is for how far you can get up your own backside ? :rolleyes: :D
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His first is in Dick, but never in head. The second in Scaitcliffe, but also in bed. The last clue is in yawning, which I presume might be moaning. Keep tuned in for more rivetting clues.;) |
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Gawd has he not shut up yet!! :rolleyes:
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People at Scaitcliffe will be wondering why gondola wont be back till Friday.
I wonder if anyone there is away on a training course till Friday ;) |
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I have a couple of good stories as to why certain Councillors are not fit for purpose.
Maybe I should just check the written proof I have so I don't say anything I can't prove. |
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By the way, where are the Rhyddings Park bunnies?:D |
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Did you not know Rindy - Neil had a stall on accy market selling home made rabbit pie!!!!:D :D :D
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I did know that, but OMG does that mean that mirkin I bought off him on eBay was really.....:eek: |
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I have a few lucky rabbit feet left if you want one. Not sure if they work or not, after all they did not bring much luck to the rabbits :D :D :D
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Well I have no Idea! tune in at some indiscriminate time and perhaps find out, (or more likely read the latest pile of roughageless carp). Perhaps if this was moved to anything goes we could make up our own ending? It can't be any worse than what it is.:o |
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It is not mandatory for you to read this thread. If you feel sufficiently bored, I suggest, if I may, you turn your attention to other matters that serve to excite you. |
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I have a great interest in all things accyweb and find that I must read all posts, why? Because if I don't read it how can I be honest with my criticism or, honest when I tell you, you are the most pathetic attention seeking idiot I have had the displeasure to read in a very long time. :) |
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Gayle,
Are you able to let me have your email address?. If so,I recall there is a facility that allows private messages on here, and thus you can place it there if you so wish. |
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This guy has got all and sundry running round in circles wondering who he/she is, as for myself it is unimportant, he/she is as the rest of us is entitled to their annonimity, as a 'newbie' it is I must admit frustrating, but I will give you a clue as to I think it is, a defeated Labour councillor of long standing, if i'm wrong so be it, this person is far to versed in the runnings of the council not to have been. I will leave the rest to your imagination, but you must admit he/she is very entertaining.
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Thank you for that rather gracious summary. I am taken to it, save for the fact that I am a defeated Councillor. I see thus far no names have been put forward for those that resigned their positions. Fear not, gondola shall disclose them in due course. |
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Those not remotely expert on roles assigned to various Councillors can readily access the information from the Borough Council. In fact, just get a copy of the AGM Report and these are listed.
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Gawd can see why gondy is a failed councillor - bored em all to tears or insulted em to death one or tother:rolleyes:
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Sorry Mel, but if you re-read several times, due to the very bad use of the English language, gondolas reply to Ianto, I think you will come to the conclusion he isn't a failed councillor, (he's actually saying that bit isn't true), which means he could be a councillor or just anyone that walked in from the streets.:D Quote:
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Re- read :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: blumming heck would rather do lots of lines or be :whip: re-reading his turd would be more than punishment itself - mind u i was only bursting gondys fantasy with a nice sharp pin called hard truth:D if should the suggestion he made was a remote possibility! |
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I should just like to point out at this juncture that there is absolutely no connection between the Idiot in Chief and my self, neither through genetics or by law. The fact that he and I both appear to share the same nationality I regard as nothing more than a regretable, but unfortunately unalterable, accident of birth. Further, should "gondola" or any other person attempt to suggest anything to the contrary, I shall sue. "Peter Britcliffe's love child"........the very idea! |
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Just had a vision there of Catherine Tate! How very dare you! :D |
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