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The pub opposite my office in Warrington has had a smoking terrace built along the length of one wall. It's a wooden platform, about 2' off the pavement, with a safety rubber surface and tough perspex side panels held in place by steel posts. It's under the eaves of the roof, so it will be sheltered from the rain, and it looks wide enough to put a few chairs on. It actually looks very smart as they've stained and varnished the wood.
I think a lot of pubs will do similar things rather than lose trade. I don't think the ban will stop very many people from indulging in their habit. |
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I must say I am looking forward to going out for the night and not coming home with my clothes reeeking like an ashtray. |
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You wouldn't be criminally liable if you did though as it would class as non-insane automatism but under this smoking ban if as example already given, a banned sales person did it whilst driving and the scenario happened, I would be worried they may slam a death by reckless driving charge somebody for it. Better to be safe than think its ok to bend the rules. Same with people speeding. |
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As has been said on the other thread,you'll be coming home stinking of other things instead.It was in the paper today how there are lots of smells in a pub that we don't realise are there because cigarette smoke masks them so in future you'll be returning home after an evening's jollification with some dear chums to find that you stink of sweat and farts.:)
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Statistics/insurance claims prove that women are more prone to accidents due to the fact that they do short journeys involving children in the back of cars who cause mayhem with their boisterousness, and distract the Mum, by far outweighing any smoking-related accidents Let's ban all children from our cars, shall we ? ;) |
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To compare an unnecessary puff on a fag to the necessity of travelling with children seems a very unreasonable one in my mind. Not exactly a good comparison. The other main problem about smoking in cars isnt the likely-hood of burning yourself anyway, its the disposal of cigarettes out of car windows they're also interested in, which DO cause a large amount of accidents from ignited spillages on the road to flying in other car windows and burning other drivers leading to accidents caused. Its a case of ALL road users safety not just your own. |
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Anyone else watch BBC parliament :D I love it. NEEEEY. edit: said NEEEYY as I like to shout along with it :D |
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To me a puff on a fag is very necessary when driving long distances and saves me from becoming ill-tempered and frustrated in traffic jams and therefore leading me open to stress and less concentration. :D Yes, of course it is a good comparison as very few accidents caused by smokers compared with other distractions (repeat, repeat). Not really about the necessity anyway .. about the reality of the facts of the causes of accidents. And please don't start me on the necessity of school runners again ..! More accidents on these than smoke-related ones. |
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In regards to accidents on school runs compared to cigarette related ones, I thought we were on about fatalities. I wouldn't have thought many people die from accidents on the school run, half the time the cars dont move and just park whereever they please. |
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People who smoke in bus shelters is my pet hate :mad: |
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Would like to thank you all for your contributions, obviously a very emotive subject...... Special thanks to Kipax for sharing....:eek: made my eyes water.... Have to say in 30 years driving 45K+ a year, have never set fire to myself..... Keep it coming, folks........
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As smoker and a driver think its time for smokers to be honest-
- It is unfair to smoke aroubd people who choose not to - It can be distracting to have a fag whilst driving- the comment about all smokers not throwing tabs out of the car isnt true is it- and theres always that odd one that doesnt quite make it out usualy on the motorway. - Smoking ban long overdue, its about time and we all know it. The problem is going to be as has been the case in a number of Dublin pubs- where lanlords let people smoke and pay the fine on a regular basis as what they pay in fines is less than the revenue some of them were losing. |
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