Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591325)

No need to start being rude. Manners cost nothing.

As I've said many times already, people held under suspicion of terrorism, with no charge, versus even one life that might be saved in the future, equals no contest.

With the increased threat to the people of this country, as the London Olympics draw nearer, I'm glad stronger measures are now in place if needed, to help thwart terrorist attacks.

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 591326)

You have not given ANY EVIDENCE. All I'm asking for is ONE bit, one tiny bit. Your only justification leads to a never ending length of detention. Give us one piece of evidence that tells us we need more than 42 days. Thus far the ones that went to 28 days have been released as innocent, or evidence found in days 4 and 12. Give us any evidence at all to suggest we need to extend. You can have my full u-turn.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591325)

No need to start being rude. Manners cost nothing.

As I've said many times already, people held under suspicion of terrorism, with no charge, versus even one life that might be saved in the future, equals no contest.

With the increased threat to the people of this country, as the London Olympics draw nearer, I'm glad stronger measures are now in place if needed, to help thwart terrorist attacks.

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 591328)

But you have no evidence that a terrorist attack is going to happen in the build up to or during the Olympics and neither have I but you can bet your last penny the plans are in place for said attacks. So yes the forty two days is a safety net that helps preserve our national security!!

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591327)

I'm giving you my opinion, that is all.

An opinion it seems that is shared by many.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 591333)

ya can argue till the cows come home so can i, but ive asked you twice now without response, would you cyfr put this to a referendum given the choice?

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 591326)

Give us one piece of evidence that tells us we need more than 42 days. You can have my full u-turn.

Originally Posted by Rosencrantz (Post 591340)

Britain is a fantastic place to live, this cynicism will surely be one of the greatest things I leave my children. I can't wait until no one takes newspapers seriously any more, so when people like David Davies spell out in clear, concise sentences "there is NO need for this" they can kick in with the see-no-evil-hear-no-evil-speak-no-evil cynicism and just vote for whatever puts the "ragheads" behind bars.

In fact I can't wait until the media starts screaming "despot, despot!" and we all vote for the man wrapped in a flag, carrying a sword of truth and a shield of justice, with the home secretary who will happily sign that 42-day form for the least of political dissenters. I'm sure the people of Accrington will lead the charge in living on our knees rather than dying on our feet, where we'll throw away whatever freedoms we possibly can just to make the blanket a little warmer at night.

Oh wait, no, I suppose I'll understand the undermining of liberty better when I'm older, right guys? Or maybe I just need to leave the comfort of my university and get into the real world where spooooooky Muslim terrorists hide under every desk and we need 42 days to work out whether they're out to kill us or not. Right, right...

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 591339)

sorry mate it aint emotive language that people are being swayed by,its common sense.;)

Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 591343)

Ah so you agree that we need 42 days? Not 28 days? :D

Originally Posted by Rosencrantz (Post 591340)

Britain is a fantastic place to live, this cynicism will surely be one of the greatest things I leave my children.

Oh wait, no, I suppose I'll understand the undermining of liberty better when I'm older, right guys? Or maybe I just need to leave the comfort of my university and get into the real world where spooooooky Muslim terrorists hide under every desk and we need 42 days to work out whether they're out to kill us or not. Right, right...

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 591346)

If you want to call it that, maybe I don't want to be part of the party of common sense! :p It sounds more like Bush excuses for war to me mate.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591345)

I thought we'd already established Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, along with your witless diatribe?