Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 591360)

The threat of terroism affects us all and for your information although we may not be at uni we do know the meaning of words we quote without resorting "look them up" as you put it. You are trying and belittle people and it just don't wash!

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 591367)

Rindi can I ask you which you think is the best at preventing terrorists from killing. Security services or increasing detention without charge from 28 to 42 days?

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591370)

When it comes to protecting the innocent, and national security, I want both, which I've already answered.

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 591371)

Which would you say is the most important if you had one or the other?

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591372)

Irrelevant.

That's like saying which do you want more in a war, the navy or the army?

We should be using everything in our power to fight this evil, and that means an adequate security service, and detention without charge, if needed.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591368)

Perhaps your views are a little coloured, and prejudiced.

You said in another thread, and I quote.

'Starting a war against something as vague as "terrorism" is a little absurd!'
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...tml#post535578

It probably doesn't seem vague to the two little children who live in our town, and whose mother was killed by the London bus bomb.

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 591373)

Not irrelevant at all. Quite relevant. Now, which is the most important of the two, security information or increased detention to 42 days?

You're sounding more and more like a politician every time you refuse to answer!

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591375)

I've answered.

I want both, and there's no earthly reason not to have both, now the Conservative's soft approach to terrorism has been thankfully quashed.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591370)

When it comes to protecting the innocent, and safeguarding national security, I want both, which I've already answered.

Originally Posted by Rosencrantz (Post 591374)

Why the hell would you consider a child's opinion politically valid?

Originally Posted by Rosencrantz (Post 591374)

Yeah, to CHILDREN. You know what else doesn't seem vague to children? Why, when faced with a budget cut, Thatcher would take their milk and invest in primary schools. Would you rather have milk or a quality school? To an adult the answer is obvious. Why the hell would you consider a child's opinion politically valid? Have you ever seen Newsround? "I wish all the bad people would stop being bad and be good and then the world would be good."

Just as in business, the management of a country should not be entirely driven by empathy and love and bunny rabbits with little hearts above their heads. The death of 20-odd during 7/7 should not mean we turn into a nation of cowards. Similarly, the death of 100 soldiers in Afghanistan is not an argument for us never to have invaded.

I stand by my statement. Fighting an idea is stupid. A physical fight is against a nation or a group of people. Terrorism is a method - and idea. We may as well be going to war against "being a meanie" or "not sharing".

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 591376)

So you agree that having less security information would be a bad thing?

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 591379)

I am quite right-wing in matters of opinion, but you just come across as quite a nasty person :( Each post seems like an attack rather than a discussion, and I have been offended by things you have said more than once. I don't think you are doing us any favours by being so hard to talk to.

Originally Posted by Rosencrantz (Post 591374)

Yeah, to CHILDREN. You know what else doesn't seem vague to children? Why, when faced with a budget cut, Thatcher would take their milk and invest in primary schools. Would you rather have milk or a quality school? To an adult the answer is obvious. Why the hell would you consider a child's opinion politically valid? Have you ever seen Newsround? "I wish all the bad people would stop being bad and be good and then the world would be good."

Just as in business, the management of a country should not be entirely driven by empathy and love and bunny rabbits with little hearts above their heads. The death of 20-odd during 7/7 should not mean we turn into a nation of cowards. Similarly, the death of 100 soldiers in Afghanistan is not an argument for us never to have invaded.

I stand by my statement. Fighting an idea is stupid. A physical fight is against a nation or a group of people. Terrorism is a method - and idea. We may as well be going to war against "being a meanie" or "not sharing".

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 591380)

You'll never make a politician.

Well not a very successful one, if you insist on flogging the horse when it's already dead and buried.