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Puffing Billy 27-03-2009 11:54

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What should happen now is to have HER name and photo published.

MargaretR 27-03-2009 13:34

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Originally Posted by Puffing Billy (Post 697291)
What should happen now is to have HER name and photo published.

I have heard that the judge can direct this - but don't expect it in this case because she is a lawyer

wadey 01-04-2009 18:41

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Here we go again and each of these cases make the rape statistics look even worse
"A businessman was cleared of raping a university student today after jurors were shown video footage of their sex session.

Gary Taylor, 41, was accused of attacking the 27-year-old woman after turning up at her flat with cocaine and a bottle of red wine.

The woman, who can't be identified for legal reasons, told jurors that Mr Taylor forced her to perform a sex act on him and then raped her in her living room.

But during cross-examination she was shown footage Mr Taylor had taken on his mobile phone during the encounter on September 26, 2008."
London Daily Mail

Ossywarrior 03-04-2009 01:40

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 696503)
there was a case similar to this in clayton back in 1995, a certain someone ( i wont name her, she's a slapper) accused someone i know, of rape, it turned out, he didnt rape her, they went to have sex and she thought her boyfriend might see her, so she cried rape, it was the second time she'd done it, the first time she had gone with a bloke and was wearing a dress that she had borrowed off a friend, the dress ripped in the process and she cried rape because she didnt want to take the blame for the dress ripping

the bloke that i know spent 4 months behind bars awaiting sentence...he was named and shamed for no reason and she kept her anonimity


i think i know the bloke, moved away afterwards if i remember rightly

Ossywarrior 03-04-2009 01:44

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 697254)
It only took 10 minutes really the other 35 they were having a brew to make it look better. I can't, for the life in me, understand why the CPS allowed this case anyway near a court room, how could there be even the smallest chance of a conviction when the accuser didn't know what date it was, never mind that she was forced to have sex. The fact that she woke up with this guy still in bed next to her spoke volumes, if he had raped her he'd have been away long before she came round from her drunken stupor. The only losers in all this is are the tax payer and the poor sod who's had is name dragged through the mud for no good reason, just to placate the conscience of some drunk woman who can't control her obviously out of control drinking problem. The sooner the law is change, to withhold the name of a suspect until he's found guilty, the better, after all its still the law of the land that your innocent until proved guilty, but not for men in rape cases, it stinks and does nothing to help genuine rape victims

dont the name the bloke incase he has raped or tried to before and the woman has been too scared to come forward? but i do think they should withhold naming him till after he is found guilty and then if anyone comes forward they can try him then.

jaysay 03-04-2009 09:14

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Originally Posted by Ossy Warrior (Post 699794)
don't the name the bloke in case he has raped or tried to before and the woman has been too scared to come forward? but i do think they should withhold naming him till after he is found guilty and then if anyone comes forward they can try him then.

In this country your innocent until proven guilty, unless your accused of rape, you must also remember that a persons past record is not allowed in evidence in any trial. I would have no problem the accused being named in a rape case, if, after he is found not guilty, his accusers name is published, but as the law stands neither should be name.

accyman 03-04-2009 18:50

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Originally Posted by wadey (Post 699174)

But during cross-examination she was shown footage Mr Taylor had taken on his mobile phone during the encounter on September 26, 2008."
London Daily Mail

it wont be long before even thinking of having sex a bloke will have to have a video camera on standby, 3 witneses and a contract drawn up declaring the womans consent:rolleyes:

im surprised he hasnt been done for filming her :rolleyes:

emamum 03-04-2009 20:31

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a few years ago i was a witness for a man that was accused of rape, at the time he was supposed to have raped the woman (his married girlfriend) they were both kissing sat on the wall of my front garden, i knew the exact time because i was on the way to pick the child i minded up from school.... he got off

last week i was at my grandads and i was reading the nelson leader and the guy has just been sent down for rape, i wish i hadnt given evidence now :(

flashy 03-04-2009 20:37

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Originally Posted by Ossywarrior (Post 699793)
i think i know the bloke, moved away afterwards if i remember rightly


no flip, its not the one you are thinking of

accyman 03-04-2009 20:46

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 700064)
no flip, its not the one you are thinking of

it must be awfull been accused of a sex crime and been innocent

women who cry rape are just as bad as those women who claim their children have been interfered with just to gain attention

innocent people end up either getting assualted or badgered out of tehir homes just because one pathetic woman either wanted revenge, a reason for been unfaithfull or just to gain some attention by telling a lie so terrible that people dont question it at first

liek others have said a verdict of guilty shoud be given before any names are released

steeljack 04-04-2009 03:20

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bit of a wander , but it strikes me as odd that the woman who was raped by the chap who later won the lottery had her identity protected at the time , but now that there my be a few £s going around there is no problem with her name being in the media . :confused: :confused:

jaysay 04-04-2009 09:06

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 700211)
bit of a wander , but it strikes me as odd that the woman who was raped by the chap who later won the lottery had her identity protected at the time , but now that there my be a few £s going around there is no problem with her name being in the media . :confused: :confused:

I think its called waving their right to immunity for financial gain Eric


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