Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 834783)

But then you could apply that logic to lots of medical treatments......from the setting of broken bones from an alcohol fuelled fight, to the liver transplant needed by an alcoholic....these are self inflicted injuries but the NHS doesn't charge for them.....or for the treatment given at family planning clinic/Gum clinics(GUM=Genito-Urinary Medicine...what was known as the clap clinic).....you start discriminating on what the NHS will fund and where do you draw the line? After all, even some cancers come down to lifestyle choices....smoking and Lung cancer.

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 834803)

Are you telling me I may have been 'conned'?

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 834815)

Oh for heavens sake Margaret, this is nothing to do with a medical issue, its about racial bigotry by men who can do as they please, yet expect their women to be whiter than the driven snow. Don't get me started on Drunks in A & E, as far as I'm concerned they should have to pay for any treatment and ambulance trips (although the ambulance issue might already be so) Its there own stupid fault if the end up in cas. As for Drug addicts think its called cold Turkey

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 834818)

Out of interest, do you think smokers should also be refused help with quitting as well? I imagine that the cost of helping people to quit smoking is pretty steep too yet it is often overlooked.

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 834818)

Out of interest, do you think smokers should also be refused help with quitting as well? I imagine that the cost of helping people to quit smoking is pretty steep too yet it is often overlooked.

Originally Posted by Less (Post 834823)

Why smokers, they pay taxes on their baccy?

Drug addicts get better treatment and their stash is tax free!
:mad:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 834823)

Why smokers, they pay taxes on their baccy?

Drug addicts get better treatment and their stash is tax free!
:mad:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 834826)

I smoked 40 cigs a day, the first time a doctor warned me about smoking I gave up, no patches, just willpower, I have not had a cigarette since 26th Jan 1978 my GP said I should cut down and smoke a lower tar brand, but I gave up, full stop. When I was your age blazey it was seen as being cool to smoke, how times have changed

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 834815)

Oh for heavens sake Margaret, this is nothing to do with a medical issue, its about racial bigotry by men who can do as they please, yet expect their women to be whiter than the driven snow. Don't get me started on Drunks in A & E, as far as I'm concerned they should have to pay for any treatment and ambulance trips (although the ambulance issue might already be so) Its there own stupid fault if the end up in cas. As for Drug addicts think its called cold Turkey

Originally Posted by Less (Post 834823)

Why smokers, they pay taxes on their baccy?

Drug addicts get better treatment and their stash is tax free!
:mad:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 834781)

The bottom line is this kikine, its a religious thing not a health problem, the NHS is far from swimming in money and when sick people are being denied drugs because of cost, procedures such as this should not be undertaken on the NHS

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 834833)

And you think that that tax on the tobacco goes to pay for treatment of all smoking related diseases Less?

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 834842)

Not only do smokers pay over £8billion tax per year as against drug addicts £0,they also tend to die younger,thus saving the state a fortune in healthcare,care homes,pensions etc.Also they then free up living accomodation,creating space so first time buyers can get on the ladder.With the problems we have with an ageing population,overcrowding etc. I think smoking should be made compulsory as a civic duty.And cigarettes issued free!