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cashman 30-09-2010 09:17

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 848635)
Yes there was no chance .. but Labour lost on 33% of the vote .. Tories won on 38% and only have a majority with the Lib-Dems....a lose for Labour.. but taking into account the intense media propaganda in favour of the Tories I would not say that was really getting "stuffed" .

thats just my phraseology "stuffed" if were gonna be pedantic they were never gonna win whomever was the leader simple fact, they lost the plot n respect of many.

jaysay 30-09-2010 09:53

Re: Leader of The Labour Party
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 848637)
thats just my phraseology "stuffed" if were gonna be pedantic they were never gonna win whomever was the leader simple fact, they lost the plot n respect of many.

All except Mancie, cashy:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 30-09-2010 11:02

Re: Leader of The Labour Party
 
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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 848630)
Really.. it's all down to guts? ..ok you did not vote but you have supported this Government since they were elected..you've got the guts of someone who could not even stick a cross on paper.... but you have no problem making posts on hoping the parties can encourage young people to vote .. I'll stick with the hypocrite I say you are.


Mancie, you are wrong.......and I don't know where you get the idea that I support this government.....is it because I recognise the need to budget according to the corporate means of GB...and this means we have to be more careful with where we place the money that is available? Silly me... I thought that was just common sense.
Is it because I recognise that Labour induced the kind of apathy that caused me to spoil my vote......the kind of situation where you realise that the elected party pay no attention to what the electorate want?
Is it because I can recognise that Labour took us into a war that was against the wishes of the electorate?.......and if these things had been done by a tory government I would be saying the same things.

You find me one of my posts where I have applauded either David Cameron or Nick Clegg.

I didn't say that I hoped that the new Labour leader would enthuse young people to vote.
This what I actually said......
........and if he does manage to inject some enthusiasm for politics into the younger members of society then he will be a worthy leader.
Don't put words into my mouth.



You tell me that I didn't have the guts to place my x in a box......you are wrong......I placed my x in all of the boxes.......why? Because I have the powers of sight, thought, and critical analysis and could find no candidate that I trusted to run this country. I cannot vote for a party in which I have no confidence...unlike you.
If that makes me a hypocrite, then I am guilty as charged. At least I am not a sheep.

Wynonie Harris 30-09-2010 15:48

Re: Leader of The Labour Party
 
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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 848352)
Furthermore is this just about underlining & highlighting Labors "Ethnicity & Diversity" credentials as opposed to placing appropriate people to appropriate jobs ? Seem to recall a certain female member of said party demanding this not so long back !

Women could make up half of new Shadow Cabinet - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

Horses for courses ? Or appeasement ? ;)

IF this is true, and there's no reason to doubt it - after all, the Indie isn't a rightwing Tory scandal rag trying to stir up trouble for the new golden boy, then it shows the measure of the man. Surely, sound common sense would dictate that he should be looking for the very best people for the job, regardless of gender, rather than trying to artifically up the ratio of the women in the cabinet. Still, I'm sure all the "progressive socialists" on here will approve. :rolleyes:

cashman 30-09-2010 15:58

Re: Leader of The Labour Party
 
well if this is correct, hes shot himself in the foot right away in my book.:eek:

Wynonie Harris 30-09-2010 16:19

Re: Leader of The Labour Party
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 848707)
well if this is correct, hes shot himself in the foot right away in my book.:eek:

Well, we shall see, Mr C. I genuinely hope that Ed's going to prove my dire predictions wrong and turn out to be a sound, common sense leader, who has the needs and aspirations of ordinary people at heart.

I doubt it...but I still hope.

(Sitting in the lobby, waiting for Mrs H to put her slap on. Wish she'd hurry up... it's a beautiful morning here and I want to get down to Beale Street!) :D

jaysay 30-09-2010 17:28

Re: Leader of The Labour Party
 
It appears the Ballses are at loggerheads they both want the same job;)

Benipete 30-09-2010 17:39

Re: Leader of The Labour Party
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 848707)
well if this is correct, hes shot himself in the foot right away in my book.:eek:

Well he side footed to the left to get the job then shimmied to the centre to keep the Blairites on side so who knows.Or in my case cares.:rolleyes:

I don't watch strictly anyway.:D:D

Mancie 02-10-2010 02:23

Re: Leader of The Labour Party
 
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 848706)
IF this is true, and there's no reason to doubt it - after all, the Indie isn't a rightwing Tory scandal rag trying to stir up trouble for the new golden boy, then it shows the measure of the man. Surely, sound common sense would dictate that he should be looking for the very best people for the job, regardless of gender, rather than trying to artifically up the ratio of the women in the cabinet. Still, I'm sure all the "progressive socialists" on here will approve. :rolleyes:

I don't find anything harmful about having even more women in the shadow cabinet.. the Tories imposed a female candidate on Hyndburn...but at the end of a long economics meeting someone has to serve the tea and jammy dodgers.:)

jaysay 02-10-2010 08:49

Re: Leader of The Labour Party
 
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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 849016)
I don't find anything harmful about having even more women in the shadow cabinet.. the Tories imposed a female candidate on Hyndburn...but at the end of a long economics meeting someone has to serve the tea and jammy dodgers.:)

Can you see Hapless Harriott with an apron on Mancie;)


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