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cmonstanley 03-03-2013 09:22

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its just a protest vote:D be very afraid,ive been listening to tory mps talking about policy and it makes david cameron sound like the sane one.first thing to go will when they get rid of european human rights is get rid of all employment rights and the national minimum wage.every part of goverment will be open to the private sector which is dangerous.would you trust private firms with your confidential information,would you like some police on the street without a conflict of interest and jaysay your treatment on the nhs wouldnt be free no pay no treatment just left to a handout from a charity or left to die like in the usa.scary times ahead,while they try and distract us with the same old european and immigration populist policy debate.we are in 2013 and its left to food kitchens and charities who are at breaking point.we are in a spiral out of control the more you starve the economy of growth its like trying to run a car without petrol.ive stopped watching the news as its just full of propoganda and no news.:confused:

jaysay 03-03-2013 09:38

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044778)
its just a protest vote:D be very afraid,ive been listening to tory mps talking about policy and it makes david cameron sound like the sane one.first thing to go will when they get rid of european human rights is get rid of all employment rights and the national minimum wage.every part of goverment will be open to the private sector which is dangerous.would you trust private firms with your confidential information,would you like some police on the street without a conflict of interest and jaysay your treatment on the nhs wouldnt be free no pay no treatment just left to a handout from a charity or left to die like in the us.scary times ahead,while they try and distract us with the same old european and immigration populist policy debate.we are in 2013 and its left to food kitchens and charities who are at breaking point.we are in a spiral out of control the more you starve the economy of growth its like trying to run a car without petrol.ive stopped watching the news as its just full of propoganda and no news.:confused:

Is everybody as stupid as you over the boarder, you really are a clown, think the Tories should start paying you a salary you'd be the best propaganda they could wish for, in as much as if this is a sample of labour thinking and how it projects itself, god help us if Mr Ed was in Downing Street

cmonstanley 03-03-2013 09:42

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is it ok to have no employment rights,is it ok to let some one die because they are poor:confused:

cmonstanley 03-03-2013 09:46

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and this would be a conflict of interest G4S worker charged with SECC murder | Herald Scotland you have no argument jaysay this is mentalist ideology.

tommiasfc 03-03-2013 09:51

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044782)
is it ok to have no employment rights,is it ok to let some one die because they are poor:confused:

What are you talking about??

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044778)
first thing to go will when they get rid of european human rights is get rid of all employment rights and the national minimum wage.

Where has that come from getting rid of human rights? You're just making things up or just putting 2+2 together and getting 5. How will they get rid of the national minimum wage? Will people then work for 50p an hour?

jaysay 03-03-2013 09:54

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044782)
is it ok to have no employment rights,is it ok to let some one die because they are poor:confused:

stupid is as stupid as ever, glad my brain isn't as addled as yours, fool, wasn't it good old Alistair, who scrapped the 10p tax rate hitting the poorest in the land.

jaysay 03-03-2013 09:57

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Originally Posted by tommiasfc (Post 1044788)
What are you talking about??



Where has that come from getting rid of human rights? You're just making things up or just putting 2+2 together and getting 5. How will they get rid of the national minimum wage? Will people then work for 50p an hour?

Don't mind C'mon, he lives in his own hate filled dream world, were anybody who has a shilling more than he has is evil:rolleyes:

Eric 03-03-2013 10:37

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044782)
is it ok to have no employment rights,is it ok to let some one die because they are poor:confused:

In most of the world's countries, the answer would be "yes". This, no doubt, is one of the major reasons that many businesses in the western world, businesses controlled by right-wingers, relocate there, with predictable results for western economies. The nazis and the nips seem to be exceptions; they have caught on to the fact that strong economies are the ones that still see making stuff as important.

But what is wrong with your political view is that you seem to have forgotten that socialism is the politics of change ... you are just as hidebound as the tories you criticize. These are the ones that seem to believe that managing a modern economy is as simple as balancing a cheque book, and that the principles which govern a household economy will do fine for the national one. "Common sense revolutions" (that's the "right", if you are confused), and "What about the workers" are meaningless slogans used as substitutes for thinking.

There is, however, a bright side, one which you have, no doubt, failed to notice. The more that tories move to the right, the more they bring on their own destruction. What is happening to the Republican Party in the U.S. reveals that right wing parties which want to move even further to the right are commiting slow suicide. You should rejoice that British tories are shooting themselves in both feet by moving too far in the wrong direction ... that would be backwards and to the right at the same time.:rolleyes:

I'm starting to warm up to Cameron. Not that I would ever vote for him, even if I could. But, at the least, he has the sense to see that, in order to survive, his party has to move to the centre.

jaysay 03-03-2013 10:44

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1044797)
In most of the world's countries, the answer would be "yes". This, no doubt, is one of the major reasons that many businesses in the western world, businesses controlled by right-wingers, relocate there, with predictable results for western economies. The nazis and the nips seem to be exceptions; they have caught on to the fact that strong economies are the ones that still see making stuff as important.

But what is wrong with your political view is that you seem to have forgotten that socialism is the politics of change ... you are just as hidebound as the tories you criticize. These are the ones that seem to believe that managing a modern economy is as simple as balancing a cheque book, and that the principles which govern a household economy will do fine for the national one. "Common sense revolutions" (that's the "right", if you are confused), and "What about the workers" are meaningless slogans used as substitutes for thinking.

There is, however, a bright side, one which you have, no doubt, failed to notice. The more that tories move to the right, the more they bring on their own destruction. What is happening to the Republican Party in the U.S. reveals that right wing parties which want to move even further to the right are commiting slow suicide. You should rejoice that British tories are shooting themselves in both feet by moving too far in the wrong direction ... that would be backwards and to the right at the same time.:rolleyes:

I'm starting to warm up to Cameron. Not that I would ever vote for him, even if I could. But, at the least, he has the sense to see that, in order to survive, his party has to move to the centre.

Unfortunately Eric that will have gone right over C'Mons head, by gone over his head I don't mean just missed it, I mean by a million miles:)

cmonstanley 03-03-2013 11:41

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david cameron wont be leader anymore unless he sacrifices george osborne thats a fact .the tory right are positioning themselves for a coup but a wee war in syria thats coming up might save him.

cmonstanley 03-03-2013 11:42

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1044789)
stupid is as stupid as ever, glad my brain isn't as addled as yours, fool, wasn't it good old Alistair, who scrapped the 10p tax rate hitting the poorest in the land.

only if there was no national minimum wage;)

Margaret Pilkington 03-03-2013 11:59

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044778)
its just a protest vote:D be very afraid,ive been listening to tory mps talking about policy and it makes david cameron sound like the sane one.first thing to go will when they get rid of european human rights is get rid of all employment rights and the national minimum wage.every part of goverment will be open to the private sector which is dangerous.would you trust private firms with your confidential information,would you like some police on the street without a conflict of interest and jaysay your treatment on the nhs wouldnt be free no pay no treatment just left to a handout from a charity or left to die like in the usa.scary times ahead,while they try and distract us with the same old european and immigration populist policy debate.we are in 2013 and its left to food kitchens and charities who are at breaking point.we are in a spiral out of control the more you starve the economy of growth its like trying to run a car without petrol.ive stopped watching the news as its just full of propoganda and no news.:confused:

A bit like a lot of your posts, from less than accurate publications.
Where do you get your totally subjective views from.......you read the popular press, you watch news programs...of course you do! Yet here you are warning us not to listen to the news...to pay no attention to this propaganda.
All news agencies are aligned to one party or another...so there is really no unbiased news reporting...this is especially true of political stories...so what is the answer?
You read lots of variations of the theme, and then you pick the bones out of it. It really does help if you have a cynical turn of mind and can grasp the fact that political parties are really big businesses....not in it to help the little man, the man in the street...they are in it to stay in power for as long as is possible....to make connections, so that once they are out on the bones of their bum, they have another lucrative career.

GET IT INTO YOUR HEAD.............Political parties are all the same animal...they just run under different colours.

cmonstanley 03-03-2013 12:17

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the tories come third in a by-election,ive counted 8 tory mps on the news since then .the news is to report on news,things that have happened .if you dont get it you never will.its like a company taking over the company you work for hence they say there will be no redundancies,when you never asked them.

DaveinGermany 03-03-2013 12:23

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1044785)
and this would be a conflict of interest G4S worker charged with SECC murder | Herald Scotland you have no argument jaysay this is mentalist ideology.

Care to explain the reasoning for this ?

Gordon Booth 03-03-2013 12:50

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1044813)
Care to explain the reasoning for this ?

Ask a silly question - and guess what you'll get!


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