Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1033179)

Still counting, eh. Doesn't make any difference ... crunch numbers till all atomic motion ceases in Hades ... you can't change the fact that popular historical memory has voted. And the winner is :theband: Adolph and the Nazis. Uncle Joe, Beria etc. are fading into history, along with other ethnic cleansers such as the Turks and General Philip Sheridan. Hitler isn't.

And the point you seem to be trying to make ... let me see ... is is that some democratic socialists, or many of them, cozied up to Stalin:confused: ... isn't really all that important in terms of the British political scene in the 20th century. British democratic socialism has, in the main, always been more democratic than it has socialist. And no matter how much you try to argue that left-wing genocidal maniacs are as bad as, or worse than the nazis, you can't alter that fact.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1033184)

Right, Less, send for the firing squad. For my last meal, could I have black pudding from that stall on Accy market with English mustard please? ;)

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1033184)

What I'm saying is this...the Soviets, just like the Nazis, killed millions of people to satisfy their own perverted ideology, therefore there is NO moral difference between them. Whether people chose to remember the evil of Stalin and other Soviet leaders or to let them "fade into history" is irrelevant. That's a fact.

Therefore, for a Labour party politico to support the Soviets is just as morally reprehensible as a right wing politico expressing Nazi sympathies. So what I was saying to C'mon is, no, you don't get Labour types supporting Adolf, but you have had them flirting with Soviet communism even in its most extreme Stalinist form, which is just as bad.

Right, Less, send for the firing squad. For my last meal, could I have black pudding from that stall on Accy market with English mustard please? ;)

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1033207)

Black puddings:alright: Hote kwiseen du Lancashire. One food I really miss ... right up there with steak and kidney pudding. Can't get 'em here. Closest thing is some Quebecois muck called boudin. But can get the real mustard .... Now, this is a wander; unless the UKIP has policies governing the manufacture and marketing of black puddings. Come to think of it, the EU probably has regs governing the black pudding ... these regs, no doubt, fill at least fifteen volumes, closely typed.:rolleyes: Hopefully, UKIP will, when they have power, move swiftly and decisively to streamline the regs, and clarify what it is that makes a true Black Pudding.:D

By the by ... what's your take on the Cambridge Four (or Five)?

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1033210)

Surely we can airlift a few puds and s&k for the depraved suffering in the colonies?
Just donate £25 per week to my Swiss account and for every pound donated I'll say thank you.

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1033212)

Wouldn't it be easier if I just gave you all my banking info and my credit card number?:D

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1033208)

Eric, you wouldn't believe it, but they have fat-free black puddings now...they just don't taste the same somehow.

The Cambridge Five?...up against the wall with 'em (although admittedly it's a bit late now!). ;)

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1033179)

Still counting, eh. Doesn't make any difference ... crunch numbers till all atomic motion ceases in Hades ... you can't change the fact that popular historical memory has voted. And the winner is :theband: Adolph and the Nazis. Uncle Joe, Beria etc. are fading into history, along with other ethnic cleansers such as the Turks and General Philip Sheridan. Hitler isn't.

And the point you seem to be trying to make ... let me see ... is is that some democratic socialists, or many of them, cozied up to Stalin:confused: ... isn't really all that important in terms of the British political scene in the 20th century. British democratic socialism has, in the main, always been more democratic than it has socialist. And no matter how much you try to argue that left-wing genocidal maniacs are as bad as, or worse than the nazis, you can't alter that fact.