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DaveinGermany 04-05-2013 08:48

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1057276)
"Do you ever expect the LibDems to be anything other than a party that latches on to Tory/Labour coat tails, and thereby acheives, through a form of bribery, a minor say in the ruling of the Country"?

Aye, they're the gimpy kid that wants to hang out with the big boys & the big boys let him only to amuse themselves & torment when they're bored. Utterly useless party, but the new kid on the block looks to be a different prospect.

accyman 04-05-2013 09:10

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lol just spotted this on another site..

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Retired headteacher Philip Fawkes, who shared a common ancestor with the famous Gunpowder Plotter, won the South Waterside ward in Hampshire County Council for UKIP.
now theres a guy i woulda voted for just in the hope he finished his familys work :D

jaysay 04-05-2013 09:12

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Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1057252)
And the platitudes begin..

Labour ..'our gains prove the public believe in One Nation, we don't have any real alternative, but hey, we won tons of seats'....
Translation...we got 30% of the vote...3 out of 10 want us and only 2 out of 10 want the tories, lets ignore the logic that 5 out of 10 don't want either of us'

Tories...'we're giving the people what they want, they just don't realise it yet, but they will by 2015'
Translation..'cor blimey guv, we've been rumbled, lets screw them for another year then lie to them in the 12 months leading up to the election'

Libdem..'we are still the 3rd party in lancashire because we have 6 seats from 6% of the vote'

Translation....erm, UKIP got 14% and no seats, guys maybe proportional representation aint the way to go after all'

You know they made smoking in pubs illegal, smacking your kids illegal, kicking terrorists out of the country illegal..yet they still manage to make a voting system where the majority are totally ignored legal :confused:

Its surprising that even when they're getting on in years and probably involved in politics too, people haven't sussed that the colour flying over town halls is usually the opposite to the one flying over Westminster, can't remember it being any different nor will it ever change

jaysay 04-05-2013 09:14

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1057276)
Now that there appears to be a viable alternative protest vote - UKIP, I now wish we did have proportional representation. Thought the interviewer of Clegg yesterday missed a wonderful question - "Do you ever expect the LibDems to be anything other than a party that latches on to Tory/Labour coat tails, and thereby acheives, through a form of bribery, a minor say in the ruling of the Country"?

The only gains in Thursdays poll was that new party who won countless councils that new party is NOC:rolleyes:

accyman 04-05-2013 09:24

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1057286)
Its surprising that even when they're getting on in years and probably involved in politics too, people haven't sussed that the colour flying over town halls is usually the opposite to the one flying over Westminster, can't remember it being any different nor will it ever change

yer quite correct its as though any elected council is a protest council

so labour council you may be feeling popular with the people of hyndburn right now but in reality your only there because the torys are screwing up so bad and vice versa when torys are in power lol

cashman 04-05-2013 09:41

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1057288)
The only gains in Thursdays poll was that new party who won countless councils that new party is NOC:rolleyes:

Its the underlying threat from Thursdays vote, But yeh seem as bad as cmon at not grasping it.:rolleyes:

jaysay 04-05-2013 09:48

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1057305)
Its the underlying threat from Thursdays vote, But yeh seem as bad as cmon at not grasping it.:rolleyes:

Cashy I've seen it all before, it used to be the Liberals then the Lib/dems, now UKIP, at a general election they won't get anywhere near the 24% they got on Thursday, believe me, I'll bet you a penny stick of spanish:D

DtheP47 04-05-2013 09:49

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Hey AND the Dingles final got rid of the BNP something is afoot across there. *chuckle*

cashman 04-05-2013 10:14

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1057306)
Cashy I've seen it all before, it used to be the Liberals then the Lib/dems, now UKIP, at a general election they won't get anywhere near the 24% they got on Thursday, believe me, I'll bet you a penny stick of spanish:D

Oh but i reckon they will actually get as many,if not more, so Raise yeh some kali?:D What yer not taking into account,in the past people used to believe the main parties.

jaysay 04-05-2013 10:17

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1057315)
Oh but i reckon they will actually get as many,if not more, so Raise yeh some kali?:D

Your on Pal :D

Guinness 04-05-2013 19:43

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Despite the evidence of the polls in Lancashire that 5 out of 10 people (of the 3 out of 10 people that actual voted in this unfair and outdated electoral system) do not want either Labour or Tory anywhere near our county council...here's the official Labour self serving smug gloat!

Lancashire County Council Elections 2013 - Hyndburn - YouTube

I could swear there were at least 10 people cheering these disproportionate victories. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, Jones and his cronies will continue to crow like this because the voting system is so heavily weighted against the ordinary man in the street. Things have to change, they fudged the proportional representation referendum by making it so complex that nobody in their right mind would vote for it and pushed the idea back 20 years. (Mark my words they will do the same with the EU referendum).

accyman 04-05-2013 19:58

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if its one person one vote then the winner should be who gets the most votes

i dont see how that can be made more simple

all anything else does is defeat the idea of 1 person 1 vote

mind you as soon as any party gets in within 2 years they chop and change boundaries etc

this current lot want to abolish hyndburn alltogether which until we get a different MP is as good as done anyway because he sure as hell isnt representing us when it comes to the EU and ensuring we get our democratic rights

DaveinGermany 04-05-2013 20:10

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1057416)
ensuring we get our democratic rights

Your democratic rights my friend are what your (supposed) political betters decide they are! Now shut up in the cheap seats & finish your gruel! :D

accyman 04-05-2013 20:14

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1057425)
Your democratic rights my friend are what your (supposed) political betters decide they are! Now shut up in the cheap seats & finish your gruel! :D


gruel ?

ill have you know i am a british citizen born and bred,white and live up north

how dare you insinuate i can afford gruel :(:D

Guinness 04-05-2013 20:19

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1057427)
gruel ?

ill have you know i am a british citizen born and bred,white and live up north

how dare you insinuate i can afford gruel :(:D

Gruel...Gruel!!! Luxury lad, luxury

Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen - YouTube


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