Last Nights Council Meeting

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Gayle

Just as an aside to this - last year the Council gave a youth drama project affiliated with Oswaldtwistle Players some funding. As a gesture of thanks, Oswaldtwistle Players committee sent the council via Cllr Britcliffe some free tickets for the next show.

He came to see the show and brought with him a personal cheque to cover the cost of the tickets that he'd used.

Now, I know that the £20 for tickets for an Ossy Players show doesn't compare with the value of tickets given to the council for Acc Stan - but does show that Peter was completely above board with everything and didn't take advantage of the fact that the Council had given a grant.

Just thought I'd post something to show him in a good light.

well fair play on that score, ya never said gayle though,was graham with him?

[Neil]

Originally Posted by cashman

well fair play on that score, ya never said gayle though,was graham with him?

I doubt they were sat on the back row together holding hands and swapping spit

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Neil

I doubt they were sat on the back row together holding hands and swapping spit

Where were they sitting then?

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by Neil

Are these forms filled out by Councillors or Council Officers?

If Officers, how would it have been different under a Labour Council?

I presume officers. Over the years the council has put in bids for lots of different types of funding. Competition is keen for this funding, and the council should not be failing at the first hurdle because the form was filled in incorrectly.

I mention it only to demonstrate that the council in my view is getting a bit sloppy. Would it have been any different under a labour council. I like to think it would be.

I think that there is a touch of complacency at the moment, and the forms being filled in wrongly is in my view symptomatic of this.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by garinda

Where were they sitting then?

I was not there and they were not either, it was humour or at least an attempt at it, next time I am being funny I will warn you

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Neil

I was not there and they were not either, it was humour or at least an attempt at it, next time I am being funny I will warn you

perhaps you need warning also mate, rindy was being sarky. hence

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Robert Owen

I think you will find that most of the companies where Joint Venture Companies, between in this case Barnfield Construction and the Council.

Over the years there have been several joint venture companies that the council has, and still is involved with

They were set up as means of bringing investment into the borough. It was also at a time when the Government was encouraging closer co-operation between local authorities and the private sector.

It was normal procedure for the council to appoint councillors to serve on the joint venture company. But there was defiantly no remuneration for the councillors involved.

There are also other limited companies that councillors get appointed too, mainly charities. But again no remuneration for the councillors involved.

I still can't get my head round this B, Barnfield construction wasn't a company set up just as a joint venture company, it was undertaking work outside HBC too, yet George was a director, I'm not say that there was anything untoward or that he was paid anything and the company is still trading as far as I know. There is a case today with Hyndburn Homes, of which PB as far as I'm aware is on the board, but not as PB but as Leader of the Council, which would change if the leader changed

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I still can't get my head round this B, Barnfield construction wasn't a company set up just as a joint venture company, it was undertaking work outside HBC too, yet George was a director, I'm not say that there was anything untoward or that he was paid anything and the company is still trading as far as I know. There is a case today with Hyndburn Homes, of which PB as far as I'm aware is on the board, but not as PB but as Leader of the Council, which would change if the leader changed

My knowledge is limited to the workings of the various joint venture companies with the council.

As for whether George was a director of Barnfield Construction ,you would have to ask George on that one.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by andrewb

Claytonender, can you confirm that our government grant has gone up by less than average?

Authorities get grants, the government increases this yearly, and this Labour government have chosen to raise ours by far less than the national average, which means we are short changed. If they had just given us the average, we'd have a 0% council tax rise. Shame on Labour. Wheres Garinda when you need him to criticise them.

Once again you have shamelessly misled AccyWeb members. Government grants have gone up over the last few years by substantially more than inflation.

The Council received for the 4th year a top up of £2.1m capital to spend on what ever the Council wants. Plus £1.3m Worklessness fund extra, on top of all the other Gov't funding.

The Council has lost 200k for concessionary travel by overpayment. Money lost. If we had watched the money carefully, we could have set a minus Council Tax.

So on balance The Council has benefited significantly from Government, this year and every year.

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by g jones

Once again you have shamelessly misled AccyWeb members. Government grants have gone up over the last few years by substantially more than inflation.

The Council received for the 4th year a top up of £2.1m capital to spend on what ever the Council wants. Plus £1.3m Worklessness fund extra, on top of all the other Gov't funding.

The Council has lost 200k for concessionary travel by overpayment. Money lost. If we had watched the money carefully, we could have set a minus Council Tax.

So on balance The Council has benefited significantly from Government, this year and every year.

Yes we get it, government put money in. They haven't increased it in line with the national average though. Hyndburn just got forgotten about when they were dishing out increases it seems, so Hyndburn council itself has to make up the shortfall.

[SPUGGIE J]

Can you 2 please agree to disagree you are like 2 rutting deer!

Anyone who reads any info draws their own conclusions and there will nevere be a right or wrong interpritation. There is always going to be disagreement over this kind of info so maybe its best to let everyone draw their own conclusions without it turning into a war of words.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

Can you 2 please agree to disagree you are like 2 rutting deer!

Anyone who reads any info draws their own conclusions and there will nevere be a right or wrong interpritation. There is always going to be disagreement over this kind of info so maybe its best to let everyone draw their own conclusions without it turning into a war of words.

Are you sure you weren't a politician in another life Spugs, think that's the best post of the whole thread, karma on its way pal

[shillelagh]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Are you sure you weren't a politician in another life Spugs, think that's the best post of the whole thread, karma on its way pal

Dont encourage him jaysay .. next thing he'll be standing for Falkirk Council and want me to go and sort his campaign out!!!!

[claytonender]

Originally Posted by shillelagh

Dont encourage him jaysay .. next thing he'll be standing for Falkirk Council and want me to go and sort his campaign out!!!!

I am sure you will run a great election campaign for him.




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[shillelagh]

Yeah but you would all miss me down here for Haslingden ......