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I put Slaters Arms Accrington on Google , and it came up with a page called Untitled Document, which gives an address in Plantation St . :confused:

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Ah .. he has awoken. Soo, is that now Porters ?

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This one?

12/02/1916 Hy Livesey
Half A Century Of Licensing Administration In Accrington, New Accrington
Slaters Arms,
25 Plantation Street
Accrington

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and do you know, without checking, I always thought the Slaters Arms was where a murder was committed, at the corner of Whalley Rd and Broadway, now no longer there.

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now we got a real mystery, atarah thinks one place, retlaw n me think another,Jcb n Ksh think someplace else, along wi google, where the hell was it?:confused::confused::confused:

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and yes, Katex is correct, the stand was erected in Peel Street for the 1913 visit of King George and Queen Mary.

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Look at the photo again and tell me where there could be corner like that in Plantation St. Plantation St is level, the street on the corner of the building in the picture is going down hill.
Trouble with some of you, you take for granted the buildings have always looked like they do today.

Retlaw.

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thats what i thought, streets goin down off Plantation E.G. Lee St etc have only a slight slope, the streets goin up off it E.G. Elephant St Etc had a bit steeper rise.

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Cheeky beggar, your not far off, look at the picture again, look at the angles of the building, and the slope of the street.
Then go down on Bank St, and look for a corner like that, but remember the altered frontage.

Retlaw

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Checking my records, it shows there was a Slaters Inn on Plantation St, but that was back in 1869, the owner was refuse a licence renewal, well known poacher and gambler. So that rules out Plantation St as the location for the pub in the Picture.

Retlaw

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I'm with Retlaw ... I think it is the corner of Bank Street and Warner Street and now Porter's Decorators shop.

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:p I have .. been busy checking modern photos with this and older photos and still think is that corner. Is it not then? The traffic signals are interesting.

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is it not corner of Bank St n Little Blackburn Rd, where bradlows bookies was?:confused:

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Just look at the photo again, I've reposted it.
Retlaw.

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ah its the corner across bank st facing porters.

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I am puting my money on Whalley Rd at junction of Broadway. I think it was knocked down to accomodate Broadway, probably in 1936/7 when this was opned as a new road. For many years the land there was left as a garden. The Hope & Anchor pub was just a few doors away, and the Broadway Hotel, formerly Peel Arms was across the road. I suspect that the traffic lights were put in just before the pub was knocked down.Broadway was previously called Marquis St after a local businessman/landowner

I think Atarah is right - the pub comes into the story of 'Bronco Bill' (Bill Hodson)who fought behind it with Joe Hurley, knocking him to the ground and getting charged with murder. Bill had suspected Joe of knocking his wife off. He got sent down for life but was released on licence after saving the life of a prison warder. Manslaughter yes, murder probably not in my view.

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Was exactly what I was going to post cashy, porters couldn't be on that corner, with the street slopping down

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Agree not Bank Street now .. yes, did have doubts about Porters ... Retlaw has added a comment to the 'photo about chimney pots. Had already noticed this from old pictures of Bank Street. This section of Bank Street had 3 chimney pots not 2 ... you started the confusion Retlaw, ya' monkey.. :p

Looks like what Bob and Atarah said then. :D

Shame, can't just read those street signs. Enjoyed the debate though.

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Yes , that's the one . Still :confused:

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KSH aint got a clue, he just pulled out the Google link JCB was talking about :D

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All this argy bargy about where the Slaters Arms was proves a point,
not many of you know much about the history of Accrington in by gone days.
Just to put you all out of your misery, you wont find it on any modern photo, or on the spurious web sites on goggle, its been long gone.

The Slaters Arms was at 21 Whalley Rd, in 1869 the landlord was William Wilkinson.



Retlaw

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This is true, Retlaw, lots of us have small knowledge of the history of our Borough, but it is threads like this that have stirred our interest and asked questions and not been afraid to come up with the incorrect answers.

Accyweb,Atarah/Bob and yourself has given me a new insight and wanting to know more. So don't criticise us please for our shortcoming, encourage us..:rolleyes: :)

Busman ... next please.

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Okay dont get your knickers in a twist.
I've spent nearly my whole life looking into Accrington's
past, as did John Kelly, both of us have shared many of our photographs
and information with each other over the years, we tend to think others have the same interests, and get a miffed with some of the answers.

Retlaw

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Actually did get me knickers in a twist today .... got both legs in the same hole after swimming ... LOL.

To be honest, in retrospect, do owe you a slight apology. You have done your best to encourage our members to take an interest in local history through your little puzzles, etc .. even though I went nearly bald trying to solve them .... :D

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know very little about the history of accy, mainly due i suppose to not having any interest when younger, or time, love it now n am fascinated by much of the stuff posted on here. suppose thats cos i'm old knackered n got time.:D

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You are right Retlaw - except that the address listed in the company Directory in the reference section of Accy library says that it is No. 23. Maybe it covered both addresses in it's day:idunno:

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As you are all in a detective mood, try this one. What is this building NOW?

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...s/cornerof.jpg

If you have inside knowledge Retlaw, give the other members a chance to suss it out please?:biggrin8:

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Is it Burnley Road? I don't live in Accrington now, and not sure what is there at the moment..but hope to visit very soon

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Yes.:D:D:D:D:D
Retlaw.

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Nice one Accygirl. :thumbsup:

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Would it be where "Age Concern" is now Busman? old gas showrooms in a prior age.

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Thanks for info on the Slaters Arms. Next question, where about does Whalley road start?
Does it start at the top of the bus station road or opposite the Broadway. I may be able to work out where the pub was if I knew the answer. I don't intend making a trip into Accrington just to find out when we have such knowledgeable members of the forum to help me out.

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Whalley Rd starts at the top of Peel St, and on the other side it starts at the bottom of Avenue Parade.

Retlaw.

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According to Shurmer's Guide , it starts where Abbey St ends , at the junction with Peel St , the bus station road .:)

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Whats all the discusion for, its already been answered as to where Whalley Rd starts, and the location for Slaters Arms. Just in case it still hasn't sunk in, look at the attached map.

Retlaw.

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If the above is related to my quote , I wasn't discussing . I was helping Gremlin and his query .

By the time I had submitted my reply , you had submitted yours unbeknown to me .

No problem . No discussion .

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Great thread Busman, thanks for sharing the photos - they are brilliant!

:dancedog: more please:dancedog:

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The photo most recently shown is of what is now Age Concern, but in former years was the Electricity Board shop, at the bottom of Burnley Rd. before there was a building here, it was the site of a communal well/water tap. In the photo it appears to be owned by the Corporation Electricity Department. The Gas & Water Board was at the bottom of St James Street between the Yorkshire Bank & Willow St.

The

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ah i said the gas showrooms, i lived just above it at number 14 burnley rd, but think yer right bob, twas the electric.;) dementia is setting in.:D

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Kenyon St, luv this photo......:D

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...nyonStreet.jpg

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Later one this, Nuttall St in the mid-60's.........
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...tallst1968.jpg

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great photo busman, not a T.V. ariel in sight, n its a good photo of bob.:D

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Isn't the Methodist Chapel right top of the Kenyon Street 'photo, the one that Margaret Pilkington talked about in Dizzy's Lizzy's Thread ?:

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...cle-54861.html

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Re posting 144, showing Accrington House - a Mr and Mrs Barnes are shown at the gate - I remember one of our members from abroad once had "Barnes" connections from this very house, so this is probably his family.

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Re posting 142 showing Nuttall Street. The area of my youth. The wagon on the right hand side just hides the view of McCartneys off licence and on the LH side is The Star Pub, in which my grandad spent more time than he did in his own house! tee hee

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Cashy hasn't changed much has he:D:D

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Hahaha, Jaysay, does have a sort of resemblance to Cashy .. except the gentleman's height ... Cashy cannot be described as a 'short arse'.

I have always loved that 'photo of Accrington House, purely because of the dress that lady is wearing .. reminds me of the Quality Street adverts.

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At the Wellington St end of Nuttall St were there houses through an archway ? They formed a square round a cobbled coutryard if my memory is correct .

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I seem to remember 'Catlows' fruit and vegetable store right opposite....wonder what is there now?

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Swinton Insurance, plus the obligatory charity shop.:D

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That's a lovely piccy of the demolition of Nuttall St. In particular, take note of the workmen in their Hi-Vis jackets, hard hats and the elaborate scaffolding erected to provide full safety as they remove the slates from the roof.

What a shame we don't see 'owt like that today.

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LOL Tealeaf ... I thought just the same thing. Remember Heaps ... were their wagons light blue ? Are they still around ?

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Dunno. Their depot used to be at the bottom of Hyndburn Rd, close to the junction with Dill Hall Lane; the remnants of it now lie under 30ft of landfill of the rerouted Hyndburn Rd. I've not seen their name for years. You tell me if they are still around.

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I thought "Heaps Demolition" were long gone? used to pop down mid 60s to the Hyndburn Rd Depot, cos yah could be taken on n paid by the day, always a good move if ya were stuck fer beer money.:D Woodwards Removals did the same, was never stuck fer a pint.:D

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Once had lunch with Mr Heap (think he was called dick, not sure, little grey sells and all that:D) and Bill Bancroft, who was then President of the Rovers and he ran a Trophy business over the Lancashire FA premises in St John's Blackburn, he was trying to set up a deal to sell trophies to Lancashire County Pool affiliated Leagues.

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According to the description on the photo, Peel st, Blackburn Rd showing Bridge St....... http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ngBridgeSt.jpg

................and Bradleys Corner which I think is Blackburn Rd coming up to Abbey St?.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...bradcorner.jpg

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yep first one Peel st on left, little blackburn rd goin up. Two great shots.:)

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I have a similar picture but with more detail, put a couple of name on John's photo to give location.
Retlaw.

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The camera shop was a pork butchers at that time.

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Yes.
I should have put in, that it became Garth Dawson's Camera shop.

Retlaw

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Here's a "Now" photo

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rossend...ey/4973829157/

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No its not Wadey. Wrong corner! You are showing the corner higher up the street, i.e. corner of Little Blackburn Road and Bank Street.

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Your right Lizzie, heres a now photo.
Retlaw.

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more great pictures .....is the old car in the picture of little Blackburn Road an Austin 7 ?...or...is it a Morris ?

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The one driving towards the camera looks a little too wide to be an Austin7.
My dad had one - reg no HG114 - He ran it on paraffin during the petrol rationing
Austin 7 box saloons

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Is this the Slaters Arms on the left hand side

Attachment 17015

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I'd say definitely .. thanks for that Jeff.

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Think I can just make out "ERS" and "MS" on the top corner of the building

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Hey Jeff, fan-tabby-dozy! I have NEVER seen this photo before. Nice one!

Atarah

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how long ago was the slaters demolished? wasn't yon when i was a toddler, also can anyone explain why it says "Peel" on burnley rd side of the Broadway?:confused: great photo jeff.;)

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Because it was called the Peel's Arms before The Broadway Hotel.... :)

See, Retlaw, knew that right away from past reading .. do I get a Brownie Point ? LOL

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Off Retlaw Kate:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: you are joking:D

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Hi, the pub would have been demolished when they "created" Broadway c1936

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So just put it down to a bad memory Cashy, you were about :rolleyes: :D:D

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Looks like there is something after all in that lump of wood between your ears, one up for sheep brains.
:hidewall::hidewall::hidewall:
:hidewall:Retlaw:hidewall:
:hidewall::hidewall::hidewall:

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Tee hee ... you're back-handed compliments are pure class,Retlaw.. ;)

Did ask earlier about Spring Mill .. anyone got any drawings/photos of that? Seemed to be the heart of the town at one time, but can't find much about it. :confused:

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For Katex, best I can do for you.
Atarah x

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Much appreciated Atarah ... thank you .. x

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some great pics, its summat i really miss- Industrial Accrington. many will probably disagree, but stuff em.:D

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One thing you do notice though, Cashy, is the muck on the buildings.

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yeh but everyone who wanted had a full time job.;)

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Yeh, Cashy, the saying "Where's there's muck there's money" certainly rang true in our town once.

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To help folk "get their bearings" look at the 2nd photo on posting 179, page 12. If you cast your eyes over the rooftop of Spring Mill, to the right you will see the roof with "James Walmsley" written on it. This of course became Mastabar, then Karrimor's and is now some sort of office premises.

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Just wondering if anyone has photos of the old house which stood on the hill in what is now the Foxhill Nature Reserve, as far as I know the old gate house is still there at the end of the Coach Road

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Hi Jaysay,
I'm not sure but Pauline Whitehead( formerly Johnson) might be able to help.
She took me round there and seemed to know quite a bit about the reserve, so perhaps she might know s'one who has photos.

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There is one on the Lancashire Lantern site, Jaysay .. can't put the 'photo up as copyright, but think allowed to put the link up:

Lancashire Lantern | Show All | Item

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Thanks for the link Kate I will take a good look at the site in the morning there's a football match on tonight, won't be on line long tonight;)

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I've just had a quick look at that site Kate, some fab photos of Ossy, especially the one of the church all on Albert Street which is now Masonic Hall, that's the area here I grew up, looks like I will be having a real good look through all the pics on the site

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Williams Store 1909

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...urchst1909.jpg

A muddy Grange lane....
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...GrangeLane.jpg

Jacob St from Grange lane....
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...GrangeLane.jpg

The Gazette office in Abbey St.....
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ystgazette.jpg

The Accy Vic......
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...os/AccyVic.jpg

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More great pics Busman, john kelly was pointed out to me at the library tonight.:)

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Going off the subject of Accrington briefly, this was written by John Kelly who has kindly allowed his collection to be put on the net and some may find it interesting..........
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2.../TheDram-1.jpg

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the picture of jacob st off grange lane did Moseleys Bakery replace those houses?:confused: memory can't recall how far on it went.

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Those weren't houses next to what became Moseley's in the photo of Jacob St, it was Jacob St Mission, the horse and cart is outside the front door, not very long ago an engineering firm used the part that was still left after Moseley's moved in.

Retlaw.

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Cheers fer clearing that up fer me retlaw, was bugging.;)

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Think I'm enjoying this thread as much as any that have appeared on Accy Web, great photos lots of information and talking points, a big thanks to John Kelly for allowing Busman to put his work on here for us all to share and enjoy

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Me too!