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grannyclaret 07-05-2007 11:58
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Oh My God It Dosent Sound Good Does It?

Tinkerbelle 07-05-2007 12:16
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Owd Bert (Post 420807)
If AccyWeb had a weekly award for the "BEST & SENSIBLE" postings on any particular thread, and I was the adjudicator, I would award it without hesitation to LESS for his contributions to this thread.

Everyone will have their own opinion on this situation and of course they are entitled to them ..... but some comments in this thread have only just stopped short of the mark of saying this family deserved what happened to them because of a moments misjudgement. That, I'm afraid, makes me very angry.

grego 07-05-2007 12:30
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 420847)
Everyone will have their own opinion on this situation and of course they are entitled to them ..... but some comments in this thread have only just stopped short of the mark of saying this family deserved what happened to them because of a moments misjudgement. That, I'm afraid, makes me very angry.
I'm sure no-one meant that Tinks, I for one was very shocked that she'd been left in the first place and surprised that the news reporters were making it out to be an ok thing to do. I wouldn't wish this on anyone and the poor little girl I go cold just thinking about it.

Margaret Pilkington 07-05-2007 12:38
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
I have to say I'm with Tinks on this one.
I know it is sometimes hard through the forum to convey just what you mean, but this family were doing what they thought was safe, it didn't turn out that way in the end. Who are we to judge? After all we only know what the media reports, and we know that that can be far from the truth.

I was particularly touched by the villagers turning out to give this family their support.......support which God only knows, they need at this terrible time.

I hope this all ends with a favourable outcome, but it is beginning to have the Holly and Jessica feel to it.

Tinkerbelle 07-05-2007 12:49
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grego (Post 420849)
I for one was very shocked that she'd been left in the first place and surprised that the news reporters were making it out to be an ok thing to do.
When we are on a complex in Spain we could see our apartment from the restaurant, yes when our youngest where tired we went back and sat on the balacony having a beer .... but I can sort of see why they thought the kids would be safe. As Katex has already said, not many moons ago it was the norm at holiday camps like Pontins and Butlins.

Neil 07-05-2007 12:51
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 420542)
....the mother and father will never let them out of their sight again.

Barn door and horse springs to mind.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 420847)
Everyone will have their own opinion on this situation and of course they are entitled to them ..... but some comments in this thread have only just stopped short of the mark of saying this family deserved what happened to them because of a moments misjudgement. That, I'm afraid, makes me very angry.
In no way do I think they deserved it.
Is it their own fault? Yes of course it is.
I hope the child is found save and well and the full force of the local law is used against the parents.

Tinkerbelle 07-05-2007 12:52
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
But for the grace of God springs to my mind

accymel 07-05-2007 13:48
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Grace of god indeed 1st & foremost!

But i seriously think everyone as human beings nature is jumped upon this thread without the real facts or knowledge neither one right or wrong for their opinion at this level, think at this stage 'very worrying' springs to mind, hearts & minds & all that. For once im remaining on the fence retaining judgement till facts shed light because i seriously think there is a lot more to this than meets the eye & rather not speculate till its more that case, my instincts are ringing bells with this case which are rarely wrong but the sketchey police approach i think they definately do suspect or know a lot more than being released for obvious reasons.

I can see all your points

Yes the parents were irresponsible or lax in thought to leaving under 5's certainly alone in the apartment without supervision, they are a professional family so had no real excuses like not affording the childcare service & they had other adult party members with them, but even still anything could of happened other than this - like sleep walking, child playing with things in the room they shouldnt etc because of no real supervision - kids are curious by nature.

Yes - nobody is perfect, parenting doesn't come with a handbook & parents are not above mistakes regardless, u have to make the mistake in order to learn from them but as with life it has consequences!

Yes - times are more unsafer now than they used to be.

Yes - people are a more niave on holiday than maybe at home, tho holidays are meant for relaxation & that can cloud judgements made.

You cant judge till facts are more known, we weren't there so its all speculation but also that people can express their own opinion to these events - doesn't make either one or the other the right opinion.

& yes hindsight is a wonderful thing but that only happens once you experience it:D

WillowTheWhisp 07-05-2007 14:03
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
When the police say they have compiled a profile they don't mean they've done an identikit picture - they mean they have put together ideas of the type of person they are looking for. If you've watched Cracker you'll know what I mean. "What type of person usually does this kind of thing?" they ask themselves and then they make a list like "single/married, male/female, adult/youth, age range" that kind of thing.

Maybe the parents had been told by staff at the complex that it was perfectly safe to leave their children asleep in the apartment whilst they went for their meal.

Neil 07-05-2007 14:18
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by accymel (Post 420873)
Yes - people are a more niave on holiday than maybe at home, tho holidays are meant for relaxation & that can cloud judgements made.
Whenever we are away in a foreign country we try to be even more vigilant. You don't know the place after all. The UK is a very safe place to live compared to many other places.

claire190 07-05-2007 22:43
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
my heart goes out to this family and i hope to god she is returned safe and well but god what were them parents thinking??? Them children were 2 and 3, left alone while they were out dining, they were checked on every half an hour but what if they woke up screaming they wouldnt have heard them, they couldnt even see the front door, as if that matters anyway as the child was took out the back! to make matters worse they have said that they felt they were being watched days before the child was kidnapped which would make me even more protective as a mother. Some people dont think what they did was wrong but i do, it is illegal to leave a child alone under 12, if you lived near a pub would you go out for a drink because you can check on them?? No you wouldnt do it, but because your on holiday them standards go out the window, why?? I pray for them.

Less 07-05-2007 23:08
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by claire190 (Post 421174)
my heart goes out to this family and i hope to god she is returned safe and well but god what were them parents thinking??? Them children were 2 and 3, left alone while they were out dining, they were checked on every half an hour but what if they woke up screaming they wouldnt have heard them, they couldnt even see the front door, as if that matters anyway as the child was took out the back! to make matters worse they have said that they felt they were being watched days before the child was kidnapped which would make me even more protective as a mother. Some people dont think what they did was wrong but i do, it is illegal to leave a child alone under 12, if you lived near a pub would you go out for a drink because you can check on them?? No you wouldnt do it, but because your on holiday them standards go out the window, why?? I pray for them.
Not quite how I would have put it but, I think that is what I was trying to get across,

Thank you.

Tinkerbelle 07-05-2007 23:47
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Maybe some people in this thread would like to organise some parenting classes for us mere mortal parents :rolleyes:

Less 07-05-2007 23:55
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 421222)
Maybe some people in this thread would like to organise some parenting classes for us mere mortal parents :rolleyes:
If you consider leaving a child in a strange bedroom without supervision.....

whatever can you be taught that hind-sight and a life time of regret, could possibly replace a child for a meal?:o

Tinkerbelle 08-05-2007 00:02
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Less, sign me up for your first class .....

Less 08-05-2007 00:13
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 421231)
Less, sign me up for your first class .....

That will be done when you start thinking with your brain instead of your heart, we all want the child to be brought home safely, but that doesn't mean we should ignore the fact that the parents are stupid for leaving her and the twins alone.

I am not trying to be difficult, I always hate when a child is abducted, or abused , or even a woman is raped or misused, but although I think it terrible that this girl has gone missing, I still maintain that the chances of such a thing happening would have been less if the parents had not let down their guard.
:o

Neil 08-05-2007 07:26
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 421222)
Maybe some people in this thread would like to organise some parenting classes for us mere mortal parents :rolleyes:
I would be very surprised if you would leave a 3 year old in bed and go to the pub.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 421233)
...when you start thinking with your brain instead of your heart.....
I think that is the exact point Less. I am sure we are all saddened by this girls abduction and we all hope she is found safe and well soon. Some of us however are realists and know why it happened. Some of us just don't like saying it was the parents fault because they think it will make them appear uncaring and callous.

cashman 08-05-2007 08:45
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 421263)
I would be very surprised if you would leave a 3 year old in bed and go to the pub.


I think that is the exact point Less. I am sure we are all saddened by this girls abduction and we all hope she is found safe and well soon. Some of us however are realists and know why it happened. Some of us just don't like saying it was the parents fault because they think it will make them appear uncaring and callous.
well said neil.

WillowTheWhisp 08-05-2007 09:06
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Maybe they had expressed concern at leaving the children to go for a meal. Maybe the hotel staff had reassured them and told them that people do it all the time there and they would be OK. We just don't know. We weren't there. We don't know the circumstances which is why I don't think we should be too ready to pass judgement. My girls are 12 and 15. Last year we left them on the hotel computers whilst we went and did things - or we let them go up to their room alone whilst we stayed by the pool. They were both over 12 but were they safe? Were we negligent?

If it's wrong to leave a child under 12 alone how many parents take their 11 year olds to secondry school and collect them again at 3 o'clock? (or ten past) Does that mean the roads are safer than your own home? People make these sorts of decisions all the time. If an 11 year old is abducted on the way home from school would the parents be to blame?

On the news this morning it sounded like the police were now less hopeful of finding Maddie alive. I hope that they are wrong and that she is found safe.

Tinkerbelle 08-05-2007 09:06
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
You are entitled to your opinions, I am entitled to mine and my opinion will not change ....... I refuse to take part in any kind of castigation for a terrible misjudgement that they will regret for the rest of their lives.

Tinkerbelle 08-05-2007 09:08
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 421284)
We just don't know. We weren't there. We don't know the circumstances which is why I don't think we should be too ready to pass judgement.
Exactly! Well said Willow

Traceyb37 08-05-2007 09:13
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
On sky news now the police now saying they are not sure if she will be found alive they say either she has been sold to an adoption racket or a paedophile has taken her! Its not looking good !



Tracey

WillowTheWhisp 08-05-2007 09:21
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
If it's an adoption racket let's hope she can scream her name loud and clear and that she wants her Mummy.

Neil 08-05-2007 09:24
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 421284)
My girls are 12 and 15. Last year we left them on the hotel computers whilst we went and did things - or we let them go up to their room alone whilst we stayed by the pool. They were both over 12 but were they safe? Were we negligent?
You can only make that decision yourself, it depends very much on the girls themselves. I think that at their age you were probably right to do what you did. After all 15 is only 1 year away from being able to leave school, start work and make babies.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 421285)
.. I refuse to take part in any kind of castigation for a terrible misjudgement that they will regret for the rest of their lives.
Fair enough comment Miss T. I can understand why you don't want to comment, it is a very sensitive subject.

lillypad 08-05-2007 13:13
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
i just hope she is safe and well! don,t know what i,d do if that was my little girl sends a chill down my spine everytime its mentioned

claire190 08-05-2007 13:56
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 421284)
Maybe they had expressed concern at leaving the children to go for a meal. Maybe the hotel staff had reassured them and told them that people do it all the time there and they would be OK. We just don't know. We weren't there. We don't know the circumstances which is why I don't think we should be too ready to pass judgement. My girls are 12 and 15. Last year we left them on the hotel computers whilst we went and did things - or we let them go up to their room alone whilst we stayed by the pool. They were both over 12 but were they safe? Were we negligent?

If it's wrong to leave a child under 12 alone how many parents take their 11 year olds to secondry school and collect them again at 3 o'clock? (or ten past) Does that mean the roads are safer than your own home? People make these sorts of decisions all the time. If an 11 year old is abducted on the way home from school would the parents be to blame?

On the news this morning it sounded like the police were now less hopeful of finding Maddie alive. I hope that they are wrong and that she is found safe.
12 and 15 is a big differece between 2 and 3 yr old babies, this goes on all the time on holiday and because some people do it doesnt make it right, this is a sad story and i hope it has a happy ending but them children totally depend on their parents for protection and security and they failed, but i know they will be punishing themselves enough for all of us and thats enough.

panther 08-05-2007 18:42
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
on skynews you can leave messages of support for Gerry and Kate McCann, the parents of little maddy,
http://skynews.typepad.com/my_weblog....html#comments

Owd Bert 09-05-2007 15:36
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 420847)
Everyone will have their own opinion on this situation and of course they are entitled to them ..... but some comments in this thread have only just stopped short of the mark of saying this family deserved what happened to them because of a moments misjudgement. That, I'm afraid, makes me very angry.
Just got back to this Thread after a couple of days and have noted the above.

Am puzzled why it is necessary to comment about opinions -- I feel sure we all ( at least I am ) are aware that we can express an opinion, and I certainly am aware of the footnote we see on Margaret Rothwell`s posts.

I have gone through all postings and cannot find it said that they deserved it -- where is it please?

Opinion:- I can`t believe that anyone doesn`t feel an overwhelming sadness about this tragic event. Even if it turns out that Maddy is safe and is returned to her family, the poor child will inevitably be mentally scarred, at least for a time. And as far as those grieving parents go, hopefully they will pull together, whatever the outcome, for the sake of their other youngsters.

Fact:- They did leave the children locked in a room.

Owd Bert 09-05-2007 15:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Owd Bert (Post 421777)
----- and I certainly am aware of the footnote we see on Margaret Rothwell`s posts.
I seem to have got that wrong -- I had it in mind that there was a footnote that said words to the effect of not confusing Opinions with Facts.

WillowTheWhisp 09-05-2007 16:30
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Still no news of her? :(

grego 09-05-2007 18:56
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Its very sad, I know reports say the parents are thinking positive, really hope she's found soon.

Margaret Pilkington 09-05-2007 19:01
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Maybe it was my signature Owd Bert.

Neil 09-05-2007 19:10
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by panther (Post 421479)
on skynews you can leave messages of support for Gerry and Kate McCann, the parents of little maddy,
http://skynews.typepad.com/my_weblog....html#comments
Some very interesting comments isn't there?
It follows along the same lines as this thread. Everyone is terribly worried for the little girl.
Some blame the parents, some don't.
Some even think the parents should be charged with neglect or abandoning the children.
Some are even asking for the blame the parents comments to be removed.

this is one such strong comment

Quote:
I'm afraid it was your own fault, what kind of person takes their children on holiday and then goes out to dinner leaving them home alone? Your children are not a nuisance who get in the way and they should never be left unattended. Leaving a three year old with two younger children is an act so irresponsible I can hardly comprehend it.
I hope the poor girl is returned safe and then given to someone who actually deserves her and will look after her properly.

Posted by: David, Newcastle 9 May 2007 12:42:05
And this is another opinion

Quote:
Dear Madeleine's parents,

Don't blame yourselves - you done nothing wrong. Perhaps some one was watching you and your beautiful girl from the beginning of your holiday. May be those people are heartbrocken/troubled parents who saw in your daughter their own child.. Hopefully they will change their minds, and return Maddie to you very soon .
Every time I am looking at my 2 y.o. daughter I am thinking of you and sending you my best wishes.
Please stay strong and positive. Good luck!
xxx Love xxx

Irena

Posted by: Dublin 9 May 2007 12:41:25
Joyce is not a happy bunny either

Quote:
ISN'T IT APPALLING HOW PEOPLE CAN BE SO JUDGEMENTAL AND HURTFUL TO A FAMILY WHO IS GOING THROUGH SUCH A DREADFUL TIME. No compassion is shown to the parents, no regard to the horrendous pain they must be experiencing. Would the self centred, smug individuals who are writing such horrid things on this site ask themselves why they are showing as much disregard to this poor family as the abductor is. What separates YOU from the sick, evil person who has done this? - from where I'm sitting it seems to be very little. YOU ARE PUTTING THE FAMILY THROUGH AS MUCH PAIN BY YOUR WORDS AS THE ABDUCTOR IS BY HIS/HER ACTIONS!

Posted by: Joyce, Manchester 9 May 2007 12:37:11

mallard 09-05-2007 19:24
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Ihpoe she is found soon the old lady next door to me as just told me it would be the little girl 4th on saturday,please,please,lord find this little girl we are all praying for her from all over the world for her return

Margaret Pilkington 09-05-2007 20:00
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Reading those messages brought a lump to my throat as big as the rock of Gibraltar. :(

Tinkerbelle 09-05-2007 20:13
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Owd Bert (Post 421777)
I have gone through all postings and cannot find it said that they deserved it -- where is it please?
Maybe I should just clarify for you what I actually posted :rolleyes:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle (Post 420847)
but some comments in this thread have only just stopped short of the mark of saying this family deserved what happened to them

aromalady 09-05-2007 20:25
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
well i,ve looked through all the above ,and find we are all guilty of jumping to opinions regarding other people, we may never be fully aware of all the rights and wrongs of this tragic little girls dissapearance, and pray to god she is found safe and well, both in body and mind. we,d all love hindsight, and which one of us can put hand to heart,never having said "if only". ok before you reply, circumstances will have been far different etc, but when a tragedy like this happens it,s like a pebble being thrown on a pool of water the after effect touches everyone, whose heart is not in their mouth when we hear another terrible media disclosure, nine times out of ten bad news, rarely happy endings, why? doesn,t sell papers. just hope this time it is a happy ending for everyone. then maybe some sence can be made from it all. i leave by wishing her family and friends, the strength to get through this terrible ordeal, and the love they will all need.

slinky 09-05-2007 21:00
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Even though we have all had different opinions in this thread......we are all wanting the same thing, a speedy find of a poor little girl that, tonight yet again isn't where she belongs which is with her mother and father.:(

cashman 09-05-2007 22:26
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by slinky (Post 421973)
Even though we have all had different opinions in this thread......we are all wanting the same thing, a speedy find of a poor little girl that, tonight yet again isn't where she belongs which is with her mother and father.:(
never a truer word spoken.

grannyclaret 09-05-2007 22:58
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
i will say amen to that too.....

davo69 09-05-2007 23:00
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
please please find this young girl god is there one

Less 10-05-2007 00:14
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
No matter what is said and even though time is gathering against it, I would love to hear that the child is returned safe and well.

That is and has always been my main priority.

slinky 10-05-2007 00:17
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Just read this ................

In Portugal, police have recovered another item of child's clothing but have not commented on whether it is Madeleine's or not.
There are reports police have been passed a CCTV tape from a service station near the town where Madeleine was taken showing a woman with a girl fitting the Briton's description.
The woman urged the girl to say thank you to staff but she appeared reluctant and acted like she wanted to say something.


I don't know what to think of this.......is it a step closer to finding her....or a step further away?? It is the most information we have been given since this happened I think, but is this to get British media off there backs??

cashman 10-05-2007 00:19
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
sincerly hope its not bullsh1t.

grannyclaret 10-05-2007 00:19
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
oh my god,,,its looking bad

WillowTheWhisp 10-05-2007 07:29
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
I felt a little annoyed with one of the relatives on the radio this morning criticising the Portuguese police. She said that at first the family had difficulty making the police understand what had happened. So it's the police's fault that they don't speak English? How many times do we criticise foreigners here for expecting our police to understand their language? Presumably someone at the hotel could speak English and Portuguese? A holiday rep?

lillypad 10-05-2007 11:30
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 422136)
oh my god,,,its looking bad
i agree with you granny as more and more days have gone on the thought of finding her is getting further away. i just hope some info comes along and its good news.glad i'm not the parents god knows what there going through!:(

grego 10-05-2007 11:30
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
I dont think you can point blame on the police, when something like this happens its the last thing you expect and I dont think the family have the right to point their finger at anyone under the circumstances, just hope they find her soon it makes me go cold thinking about it, my thoughts are with them.

mthead 10-05-2007 11:59
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
You start getting worried when the police over there release a sketch of an E-fit with no face:confused: This is on the Telegraph website.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../wmaddy110.xml

grego 10-05-2007 12:04
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Thats bad, whats the point of releasing that?

WillowTheWhisp 10-05-2007 12:45
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
It says they are going to scale down the hunt due to lack of manpower :(

Traceyb37 10-05-2007 12:45
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
On sky news now, breaking news police have 3 prime suspects , 2 men and a woman, and police have took her parents away in a car!

lets hope its some good news!

Traceyb37 10-05-2007 12:49
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press news conference at 6.30 pm tonight!

panther 10-05-2007 12:54
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
1 Attachment(s)
fingers crossedAttachment 9165.
hopes its not bad news

Traceyb37 10-05-2007 12:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by panther (Post 422292)
fingers crossedAttachment 9165.
hopes its not bad news


yes fingers crossed

Traceyb37 10-05-2007 12:58
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
yes fingers crossed http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...5&d=1178801624

Traceyb37 10-05-2007 13:05
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...264945,00.html

davo69 10-05-2007 13:14
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
thanks for the link lets hope and pray

WillowTheWhisp 10-05-2007 13:27
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Oh I do hope it's good news http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...5&d=1178801624

panther 10-05-2007 13:29
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
when are they telling us.............6.30pm.......why so long?

WillowTheWhisp 10-05-2007 13:30
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Brunt said police have shown a still from the CCTV to a British tourist who confirmed it showed a man he had to chase off from photographing his daughter.
At least they do seem to know who they are looking for. That's encouraging

cashman 10-05-2007 14:19
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
with any luck that "could" be the best news i heard this year.

sussiewong 10-05-2007 15:35
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
hope and pray good news fingers crossed its maddys 4 birthday saturday

Traceyb37 10-05-2007 15:47
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
This is the latest news

sky reporter Brunt, who is in Portugal, said: "Things are happening, they could be important, there could be a big development.

"I'm also being told that a town or village has been sealed off near Seville in southern Spain. It is not a long journey to get from the Algarve across the border."

Tinkerbelle 10-05-2007 15:54
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
God, I hope and pray it's good news.

WillowTheWhisp 10-05-2007 16:03
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Let's hope she's alive and well in that village and is soon returned to her parents.

panther 10-05-2007 18:13
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
well its just been on the news the 6:30 update, and i was thinking the way they were going on about it that they had some good news or summat. but no just this.................
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...264945,00.html

to me they should have done all this alot sooner!!

magpie 10-05-2007 20:39
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
I have just come back from Spain.... I was rather shocked to see that there were no posters at any of the airports.... just hope and pray they find the little one soon and that's she is ok:

davo69 10-05-2007 21:12
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
why wait so long for news confrence when there wasnt much to say

grannyclaret 10-05-2007 23:00
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
The police say that the childs clothing they found is" NOT" Maddies
thank goodness.

flashy 10-05-2007 23:02
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
thank god for that

WillowTheWhisp 10-05-2007 23:05
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
That's a hopeful sign but makes you wonder whose it was.

grannyclaret 10-05-2007 23:46
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Probably Lost By The Pool Or Something,,,,

panther 11-05-2007 13:19
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
one million pound reward up now for maddy!!
i hope they find her today its her birthday tomorrow!!!

slinky 11-05-2007 13:25
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Another day has gone by and nothing. I have just read that they are " scaling down the search" surely this can't be true :mad:

Traceyb37 11-05-2007 13:30
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Its Madeleine's 4th birthday tomorrow!

It gets me so mad, why is the police law so behind times, they said on news yesterday they were handing out pictures of Madeleine, and they cant tell us anything as its their law! something has to change quickly!

I feel for her parents, her mum does not look well at all today!

Hope Madeleine turns up soon!

Gayle 11-05-2007 14:57
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
I'm sorry but I don't get this desire for information - surely it's better that they spend their time searching instead of giving endless press calls. It's not our business to know how they are progressing. The media should leave well alone and let everyone get on with it.

Obviously, I'd be delighted if she was found and I'm sure that we'll be informed but until then it doesn't help anyone. Just because the portugeuse police aren't telling us everything doesn't mean that they are't trying everything and this constant media coverage is alerting whoever took her to the police's progress.

Neil 11-05-2007 15:04
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 422676)
this constant media coverage is alerting whoever took her to the police's progress.
Good point Gayle.
On a radio news bulletin the other day it mentioned some story and that arrests were imminent. What was that all about? The arrestees must have started hiding just about then. If I had been a naughty boy I would be listening to the radio to see if I had got away with it.

grannyclaret 11-05-2007 15:52
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Said Something About A Sniffer Dog Trailed Maddies Scent To A Bedroom Belonging To An English Woman And Two Men ...strange....

slinky 11-05-2007 15:54
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grannyclaret (Post 422694)
Said Something About A Sniffer Dog Trailed Maddies Scent To A Bedroom Belonging To An English Woman And Two Men ...strange....
That is strange to say there has been reporting of the abductors being 1 female and 2 males.:mad:

When did you hear this granny??

grannyclaret 11-05-2007 15:59
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
I wasent taking much notice,it was around dinner time,maybe on the news on "This Morning"..or one oclock news .....

Traceyb37 11-05-2007 16:01
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
this is on sky news web site


CCTV of a woman and two men with a girl matching Madeleine's description at a nearby petrol station is being analysed. Their car had British number plates.
And sniffer dogs picked up a trail from the McCanns apartment which led to a neighbouring flat which had been used by a British couple or family.
Chief Inspector Olegario Sousa said that a 200 kilometre (125 mile) square area had been scoured for clues since she vanished more than a week ago.
No arrests had been made in the case and items of clothing found by police teams did not belong to Madeleine, he added.

WillowTheWhisp 11-05-2007 16:12
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
If they know who used the neighbouring flat presumably they can look for those people and at least if they are nothing to do with it they can be eliminated.

slinky 11-05-2007 16:15
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 422710)
If they know who used the neighbouring flat presumably they can look for those people and at least if they are nothing to do with it they can be eliminated.
well yes you would have thought so. Someone out there MUST know something.

grego 11-05-2007 20:15
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
On checking into hotels/apartments abroad you usually have to hand over passports so presumably the complex will have all details of previous holidaymakers. I just hope they find her soon. I too think that all details of the investigation shouldn't be made public and if the family are happy with the police and the investigation then they shouldn't be critisized. I do think its important that her face and the abduction is kept as headline news though.

suzster 12-05-2007 07:21
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
I was desperately praying and hoping that she would be back with Mum and Dad for her birthday when I woke this morning.

Suz x.

maxwell silver 12-05-2007 08:04
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Today,Maddys birthday,is going to be a very,very tough day for all her family.I don't think there will be a single person who does'nt think of them today.I pray today she turns up safely(like every day since she went missing) & the ba*****(s) (ther is no other word,sorry) who took her rot in hell.

panther 12-05-2007 08:17
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maxwell silver (Post 422985)
Today,Maddys birthday,is going to be a very,very tough day for all her family.I don't think there will be a single person who does'nt think of them today.I pray today she turns up safely(like every day since she went missing) & the ba*****(s) (ther is no other word,sorry) who took her rot in hell.
my thoughts exactly maxwell
lets hope it is a happy birthday, and these scum:mad: fetch her back to her family today!

Lilly 12-05-2007 09:08
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
I too was hoping that she would be back with her family today.It must be especially tough for them with today being her birthday.I hope find her soon and this isn't going to be one of those open ended cases like with Ben Needham.It must be total hell for the parents.With us it's the first thing we think of in the morning and the last thing we think of at night,checking teletext,sky news etc to see if there's been any developments.I can't imagine how torturous this is for her family.it must be breaking them up inside.

grannyclaret 12-05-2007 10:03
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
http://members.tripod.com/Dianes_Pla.../jpg/YRBAN.jpg
To Maddie,,,on your birthday xxxxxxx

Stanaccy 12-05-2007 10:42
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
I sincerely hope that she is found soon, I also hope that she is able to get over whatever has happened to her in the time that she has been away from her family.

Happy Birthday Maddy, our thoughts are with you.

slinky 12-05-2007 10:53
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
To Maddie on your Birthday sweetheart xxxxxxx



Another day of hoping and praying that you turn up and be reunited with your parents darling xxx

Tinkerbelle 12-05-2007 11:18
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Birthday wishes little one ..... where ever you are xxxxxxxx

flashy 12-05-2007 11:44
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
:( they all made me cry :(


happy birthday maddie, there is hope out there, you will be found soon xxxxxx

slinky 12-05-2007 12:49
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Madeleine Police Hunt Van Driver



Police hunting for Madeleine McCann are looking for the driver of a small white van, Sky News can reveal.


Crime correspondent Martin Brunt said cops want to speak to a man who was spotted near the holiday apartment in Praia da Luz around the time the four-year-old vanished nine days ago.
"We don't know how significant it is, but there are several reports of a man hanging around the apartment on the day she disappeared or perhaps the day before," he said.

"One report suggests he was sitting in a small, white van. Police have got a good description of the man: about 5ft 8in tall, between 30 and 35, not Portuguese according to one of the witnesses, wearing a blue jacket and white trousers."

He said police had produced an e-fit of the suspect which they had been showing to people inside the apartment block in an attempt to jog their memories.

He added that police are also keen to trace an American man who lives in the village but who has not been seen for several days - and who also drives a white van.

panther 12-05-2007 16:09
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
he could be anywhere!
its like looking for a needle in a haystack!

the white van has been eliminated.

slinky 12-05-2007 16:13
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by panther (Post 423199)
he could be anywhere!
its like looking for a needle in a haystack!

the white van has been eliminated.
I didn't know the white van had been eliminated?? when did that news come through??

fc:stanley 12-05-2007 17:43
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
I go to greece alot and its always blondes that are getting kidnapped there , because there are not many blondes in greece. My mum was telling me the other night while watching the news that when we was in greece when i was really young my smaller brother just wondered in this restaurant and she ran after him because she was so scared and all the guy wanted to do is show him his fish aswell but you never know. You cant trust women now as seen on this big case, however i want this missing child to be found however i have big doubts she has been probably moved to the other side of portugal and will probably be sold if not found :(:(:(

panther 13-05-2007 08:07
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
theres a 2.5 million pound reward and still no sign!!

im starting to think something really bad has happened to her!

panther 13-05-2007 08:11
re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
 
on the news they are saying that is is a good way of identifieing her!
in case they have altered her image,
The photo clearly shows her distinctive right eye, where the pupil runs into the blue-green iris.
It is this distinguishing mark that will identify Madeleine to those on the lookout for her,http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1535111.jpg


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