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jaysay 18-01-2012 08:59

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 963135)
whats this all about:confused: The Guardian on Facebook | Facebook

Um I see you've surfaced again, wonder why you didn't put the link on from your beloved Guardian featuring the interview with Mr Balls;)

JCB 18-01-2012 10:11

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 963125)
Just thinking that Labour will have even less chance of even getting into government if the jocks get their way..Labour currently have 41 Scottish seats in Westminster.. those seats will go! :eek:

There has only been one Labour Government that would not have been formed without the Scottish Labour MPs .

All other Labour Governments would have been elected by just the Labour MPs elected in England and Wales .

cmonstanley 18-01-2012 18:48

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tories the party for unemployment;) and as i said 30 pages ago we aint seen nothing yet, as this month looks like its going the same way:mad:

jaysay 18-01-2012 18:49

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 963317)
tories the party for unemployment;) and as i said 30 pages ago we aint seen nothing yet, as this month looks like its going the same way:mad:

Go back to sleep

cmonstanley 18-01-2012 18:53

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how can you support a party that has caused so much misery to hard working families and by the way they have done another u-turn by recruiting for more civil servants;)

cmonstanley 18-01-2012 19:08

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BBC News - Voting with the heart - and stomach

Margaret Pilkington 18-01-2012 19:10

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 963317)
tories the party for unemployment;) and as i said 30 pages ago we aint seen nothing yet, as this month looks like its going the same way:mad:


Helloooooooo......there is a recession on everywhere.....not just in this country but all over the world......if people haven't got money they don't spend, if they don't spend, then it isn't worth making stuff.....if it isn't worth making stuff because nobody is buying , then companies lay off workers...or worse still go bust.

You want us to spend our way out of a recession? What with?
The last government spent all the readies......they left the tin box empty.

mobertol 18-01-2012 20:20

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Seeems inflation has fallen this month= prices lower= more to spend. Economical swings and roundabouts.

PM of Italy, Mario Monti has visited Dave today - cuts a better figure than Silvio Berlusconi and he can speak pretty good English too.

cmonstanley 18-01-2012 20:37

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 963323)
Helloooooooo......there is a recession on everywhere.....not just in this country but all over the world......if people haven't got money they don't spend, if they don't spend, then it isn't worth making stuff.....if it isn't worth making stuff because nobody is buying , then companies lay off workers...or worse still go bust.

You want us to spend our way out of a recession? What with?
The last government spent all the readies......they left the tin box empty.

they were paying off more than the tories are doing now;) thankyou for reminding us it is a worldwide recession so when anybody else comes on and blames the last goverment please could you remind them..ie if you take money out of the economy it will go bust.how did you think the industrial revolution happen;)

cmonstanley 18-01-2012 20:39

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ps where is george osborne? ahh yes wasting public money hiding in japan so he doesnt have to answer questions about the economy..

Margaret Pilkington 18-01-2012 20:47

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I was reminding you that we are in a world recession so that you culd take account of that ...and not expect things to get better anytime soon.
If the last government hadn't got the finances into an almighty mess then perhaps we would have more to play with right now...but that fact is a bit inconvenient for you isn't it?...despite the fact that both Labour party Eds reckon the cuts would have been undertaken if Labour had by some miracle got back into power....and have said that if by some chance they do get into power in the future they won't be cutting taxes or chucking the money about like they did before.

You say that the last government was paying off more than this government........wasn't it the last government that left this government all the debt with their daft spending?


anyway, oh great one......seeing as you are so knowledgeable, perhaps yu would give us some words of wisdom about how exactly you would sort out the situation?

Margaret Pilkington 18-01-2012 20:49

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 963347)
ps where is george osborne? ahh yes wasting public money hiding in japan so he doesnt have to answer questions about the economy..

Elucidate.......How is he hiding if you know where he is?
Perhaps he has gone to forge some business ties just in case the EU goes down the plughole...after all it is circling the drain....despite all those meetings to sort it out.

jaysay 19-01-2012 09:21

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 963319)
how can you support a party that has caused so much misery to hard working families and by the way they have done another u-turn by recruiting for more civil servants;)

And you actually think things would be better with Labour in charge, we heard that once remember "Things can only get better", they took over in 1997 one of the strongest performing economies in the world and turned it into a basket case in 13 years, its labour who have caused the misery for hard working families with their total incompetence running the economy. Labour don't do economic management, they have failed on the four occasions they have held power. Now even Ed Balls has held his hands up and backed the government's pay freeze and cuts in the public sector, well he had to really, most people do live in the real world, well that is except a few jocks and the odd southern exile;)

Eric 19-01-2012 13:46

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 963323)
Helloooooooo......there is a recession on everywhere.....not just in this country but all over the world......if people haven't got money they don't spend, if they don't spend, then it isn't worth making stuff.....if it isn't worth making stuff because nobody is buying , then companies lay off workers...or worse still go bust.

You want us to spend our way out of a recession? What with?
The last government spent all the readies......they left the tin box empty.

Not quite everywhere ... :D

And it is not only democratic socialists who don't accept that cuts by themselves are the only remedy for economic problems. S&P ... not a hotbed of radical socialism ... suggest that a blinkered focus on cutting is not the way out; there has to be growth. And government has to put money into it. Many criticized President Obama for his bail out of the US auto industry; but it worked. Or, at least, succeeded more than it failed.

Margaret Pilkington 19-01-2012 14:00

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Succesive British Goverrnments have not been keen to bail out failing companies, preferring to let them find a buyer...even if that buyer is from overseas(taking jobs out of the country)......and while there may be some places not suffering in the current financial crisis, they are the exception rather than the rule....certainly on this side of the pond.

Growth relies on sturdy market forces, and the market forces have been subdued for quite some time now........insecurity of the current situation in the Eurozone(to which you over there, seem to be immune) is not helping. There doesn't appear to be any kind of solution emerging....this despite all the meetings and summits organised by Merkel and Sarkozy......Britain is going to be asked to commit another 65 billion pounds to the IMF to shore up the Eurozone(and this won't be the last time we are asked I can assure you), when in all probability there is nothing to save the single currency........The government might have had some spare readies to put in, if the last lot(and I don't care what colour t heir coat was - I have no partisan feelings to any of the parties....they all wazz in the same pot) had not been so profligate in their spending.


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