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Didn't know cashy had every been over to stay in Yorkshire:confused::confused::D

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Lol it was in Preston, was that!

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Far better Indian restaurants in Accy SM than any in Leeds (Kiplings at Greengates included), but not much to rival Calverley Arms carvery.

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Ah I was in there last xmas eve. Not for the carvery though just the vino! :)
Not one for eating out much

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Rhinos, and United?

Cool.

:Banane20:

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Lol!
I'm not assuming anybody here would actually be a punter of the strip club, but nevertheless it won't hurt me to know a few names/faces if I am going to be spending time in Accrington :)

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Strip Club? But I have so far assumed that this establishment was a place to view the intricate delights of pole and lap dancing. I do recall attending various places several years ago where one could see young and not so young ladies removing their attire in between comedians spouting their stuff. But is not pole/lap dancing somewhat different? Is it not a dialogue between athletic prowess and artistic endeavour, somewhat akin to synchronised swimming? I have heard a rumour that pole dancing will be an event at the Rio 2016 games.....maybe you should get in training and get yourself a medal in four years time.

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Na Cashy was barred from Preston years ago:D:D

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Those were the days when they had Topless barmaids down the Old Kent Road Teafeaf, before your London days though:D

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Ahem. Sorry. I'm not a stripper, I'm an Exotic Dancer (non-reality check sugarmouse...........)

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Well did my debut at icandy tonight (last night?) And I liked it!Nice club, nice people-I want this place to do well, it's definitely not a 'sleazy' place in comparison to some places I've worked. I met some nice people there-it's given me a nice first impression. I am there next Friday too :)

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Did ya get plenty of tips sugar:D

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Yes!I was advised against wiping my butt with a broken bottle, & that men in shellsuits are rarely millionaires , despite what they say.

(I actually did get tipped well, which was a nice change (ha.Ha) from my usual club! :)

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Ya see Accy is top class:D

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Sorry but shame on you don't care if I upset anyone here at the moment but I'm sure your'e worth a lot more than getting your bits out for the lads in some backwater place like Accrington - I'd prefer you to be on the dole if I was you. I feel very strongly about this and to me if you think you aren't worth anything better than this then it's a sorry state of affairs for women in general, have some self respect for yourself. If I upset you or anyone else on this site then I apologise but I will not change my beliefs here.

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If you don't agree with it, fine, but who are you to start telling her what she should and shouldn't do, imposing your own moral beliefs on someone else? It's not illegal, so she's perfectly free to do as she pleases without high-handed censure from the likes of you. As for your sneering description of Accrington as a "backwater place" I think that perfectly illustrates your own innate snobbery.

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Soft porn is for men who lack imagination.

I suppose some women dancers regard such men as small minded prey and exploit their vulnerability for material gain.

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Oh right so first you insult the girl for earning a living, tell her to go on the dole and then you quantify it by apologising.

Have you actually seen her at work, to enable you to make such a vehement attack, or are you getting all your information from CSI Miami and Rev Kev weekly?

It's pompous and self righteous of you to attempt to impose your view of what constitutes self respect and how someone should earn a living. From the outset she has fronted up and told everyone what she does. To date she has come across as intelligent, self effacing and has not done a bad job at fitting in on this viper ridden forum.

All she is doing is the 21'st century version of Pan's People/Hot Gossip, and frankly she probably covers more of her body than most of the girls walking around town on an average friday night.

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Wow, well said Guinness

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Hmm It says on sugar's profile that she found out about accyweb at iCandy. Does that mean Accyweb are official sponsors of iCandy? ;)

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Rob, she already said she was looking for info on the net about icandy and this thread came up lol

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Sorry Anne can't agree one little bit, it is very easy for people to call others who sit on their backsides all day holding out their hands for benefits, if this lass is prepared to move over here for work, no matter what it is, we should applaud her not defile her, when I worked in the night clubs we had GoGo dancers, to me just the same as pole dancing but probably a bit more erotic, but hey the lass is pulling her finger out and working for a living congratulate her don't knock her

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although i agree with what you say jay, i can also see the the other point made, it may be legal, but anne has an issue with it morally, sure ones own moral compass must decide, thats why some people choose a career outside of the law, ie prostitution, drug dealer, burglar. if any of those things were made legal would you find it morally acceptable to do any of those activities, if it meant not receiving state handouts?

anyone working in (for the want of a better phrase) "the legal sex trade", porn,sex shop, erotic dancing,sex lines, i am sure they have heard the moral argument a thousand times, and it has to come with the territory, and you accept it or change job, you are never going to change peoples minds on this one.

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Why decry others, this girl is earning a living, yes earning a living in a totally legal licenced establishment, I'm not going to put the lass down for doing something shes obviously good at, so can't see why others should either. As for your other idea about illegal professions, these aren't going to be legalised and think your argument is false to say the least, in fact I think its an insult to this lass you even mentioning it

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then you obviously didnt understand what i was saying

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I very rarely do

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Exactly, but Anne seems to want everyone else's moral compass to be the same as hers. If she doesn't agree with lap dancing, that's up to her, but to start abusing sugarmouse with phrases like "shame on you" shows Anne to be just as intolerant as the likes of Logan.

If you don't like it, don't go. Simple as.

PS - Sugarmouse, they don't by any chance do senior citizens' rates, do they? Just asking for a friend. ;)

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Spot on, i would never be seen dead in the place, At the same time i wouldn't knock a lass fer working yon, But theres always been them that know it all.:rolleyes:

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I think anne's comment was a bit in ya face but I don't think the comparison to Logan is fair. Now if Anne started ranting about Harry Potter and Gays I would start worrying :)

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Think the comparison Restless is that Logan has the same attitude, and tries to browbeat everybody into his way of thinking

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OK, on the particular issue of lap dancing clubs, Anne is every bit as intolerant as Logan. She doesn't agree with lap dancing clubs, therefore lap dancing clubs shouldn't exist.

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Yes I agree. Its scary to think how long he has been bending ears over the years...

But Anne's comment was more harsh than anything else. I don't think she is about to start posting leaflets through doors... ??

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There would be always women that will think this. No surprise that one would pop up here. ;)

What about the Chippendales. That sold out large arenas. I wonder if the same view is applied there?

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Well I for one think they're disgusting and should be banned:D

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So in your opinion, her comment was "a bit in ya face" but fair? Do me a favour.:rolleyes:

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Did I say it was fair?

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By saying a bit in yer face, yet the comment about the logan comparison was not fair, then to me thats what yeh implied.:rolleyes:

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If I post my opinions on Logan. It would be slanderous.(well they would be more comedic thoughts than opinions)

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I wasn't measuring the harshness of her comment by using the words "a bit" ;);)

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What's 'Better' please, by your definition? you think it's 'better' to work more, for less money in a job I probably won't like?Correct me if I am wrong but that appears to be what you are saying.

I work 20 hours a week (that includes all travel) for a wage more than most people earn in 40 hours.

I have two degrees, one being a Master's.I got a first in both. My job is an informed decision. How many people can say they love their jobs?I truly can. I provide a service that is still in demand.

As for the dole, I feel strongly about the amount of people spending *your* money, (assuming you have a job) rather than earning their way-I will never sponge off the government, there are enough people doing that. That you would do it if you were me, well, if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Also there is no need for apologies hun-there are about 5 people in this world whose opinions I value. You may take a guess as to whether or not you are one of them :)

Thank you for the support.

Thanks, I appreciate it !
Haha yes without you lot I would never have heard of the place!

I feel quite humbled by all this-I've only been on here a week or something!

Yes, well I've been a dancer on and off for ten years. Not much I haven't heard. If she doesn't like it, then I don't recall asking her to come and pay for a dance from me :)



Thank you-it's okay, this business does nothing if not wonders for growing a thick skin. If she wants to abuse me because it makes her feel better then bring it on :) although, Anne, it seems you've rattled people a bit. Perhaps private abuse would have been the better thing to do.
Wynonie as you've been so supportive, tell your 'friend' to come see me, I will give them a couple minutes extra :p

Thanks again everyone :)

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What opinion do you have of the men who pay to watch you?

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Are you asking me?x

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Yes

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Sorry wasn't sure.
I don't have an opinion on customers as one homogeneous group so it's difficult to answer! I've met some brilliant people in this job, generally they are just men who like lapdances, for whatever reason, they like the company of women and women who are willing to dance naked for them are a novelty. I love talking to people and hearing about their lives so a perk of the job for me is that I get to do this all the time.

The only customers who I *ever* think bad of are those that assume dancers are easy prey, or those that are abusive. I encounter them often but it's part of the job, one of the downsides.

I also find myself having the same argument over and over year after year-when I get offered X amount of money to go home with guys and they recoil in horror when I don't. Assuming all dancers are prostitutues is slightly annoying, but also (sociologist in me lol) fascinates me. How many women go out each weekend and end up in bed with strangers? Often for NO money-and people judge me because of my job.
I've nothing against women who sell sex although personally I couldn't do it. But I do tend to have a slight opinion on men who assume dancers/prostitutes are one and the same.

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The biologist in me thinks you shouldn't blame them too much!

Women have secondary sexual characteristics which distinguish them from men and are generally thought to be necessary in courtship, while not being directly part of the primary reproductive system.

If you dance in front of them displaying some of these characteristics it is their instinct to think of it as a courtship ritual of some sort (it is subconscious of course and some will read the signs wrongly hence the mistaken advances and their subsequent disappointment).

This is obviously what they go to lap-dancing clubs for in the first place - a bit of sexual stimulation which may be missing in their lives for whatever reason. It's perfectly natural for them to be out looking for it though -it may just be that they'd be better off trying to get to know someone in a different way though and it would probably cost them less, economically and possibly in their self-esteem.

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You're right, I guess unless I turn into a man I will never fully empathise- I also tend to assume we've evolved a bit since our days of being ruled by primal instinct only but I know that's the wrong way of thinking, particularly where alcohol is involved! :)

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Alcohol will always lower peoples inhibitions and impair their judgement too. I don't envy you having to deal with the unwanted advances but as you say I suppose it's "part and parcel" and you just get on and deal with it - takes quite a bit of character I imagine and experience and time will help no doubt.

I imagine you can recognise the nice guys who've just had a bit too much to drink and the genuine sleaze-balls:rolleyes::D

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Thanks-to be honest as with any institution or any part of society, MOST people are fine. The odd sleaze ball is a small price to pay for doing the job, it's to be expected, never bothers me for more than a couple of minutes.:)

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Salome had a lot to answer for... :D

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My own dance of the 7 veils is only ever performed in private!:rolleyes::D

Wouldn't like to inflict it on the general public;)

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Lol!
:) that's one thing I've found very weird-dancing for partners!I feel very silly doing that!

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Get them to dance for you instead -could be interesting;)

Laughter is a wonderful turn on:D

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Lol thanks for that image :D

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We all have our sexual quirks.

In the days before I became asexual (an age thing) I preferred men men who didn't need visual stimulation - tantric was best :D

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I do hope you didn't blindfold them Margaret!

Tantric is alright if you have all night!;):D

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The brain being the biggest erogenous zone!
Well one thing I often am asked is'What if I guy comes in and you reeeeallly fancy him?' how can you dance for him then is it weird?
I always respond with 'I CAN'T find somebody attractive unless I know them!So that's impossible!'

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Margaret i'm going to rename you, you are now called Trudie ;)

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It isn't a case of
'how long it takes' but more of 'how long can you make it last'.

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So beauty is not only skin deep! I'm with you on this one all the way.

I know what you mean - the most classically handsome men are often the least attractive people, unless they have a great sense of humour and a large bank account;):D

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Who is Trudie?
Is she some 'celebrity' or other?

Until I know I can't decide whether to feel flattered or offended.

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Lol yes. Some folk become far less attractive once you get to know them!

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For me the eyes have it -you can tell so much about a person from their eyes.

That, of course, is after having given a general appraisal of the whole...;)

The sexiest thing has to be the brain -I noticed you mentioned it being the largest erogenous zone of the body earlier -I don't mean in that way though.
There is nothing lovelier than an intelligent man, preferably with a sense of humour.

They are soooo hard to find though.:D

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I think this may be what Flashy is referring to...
Sting and wife Trudie's love nest reveals some eyebrow-raising erotic bedroom art | Mail Online

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Thanks for explaining.

I find Sting's taste disappointingly 'visual' and garish.

Skin is a larger and more sensitive organ than the eye.

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lol, they are into tantric Margaret, the only reason i said i would change your name

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OK I wasn't offended.
My ego likes to think I was a sexy beast.
Discarding ego is the hardest part of practicing zen :D

just confirming that I am weird and enjoying being so

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Not weird - different, individual, your own person... like me I hope

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Sod the zen, yer weren't bad in yer day lass, remember i knew yeh.;)

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I must say to all who read that - it wasn't carnal knowledge;)

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Were it hell as like..........The wife woulda killed me.:D

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Phew that god for that:D

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:eek::eek::eek::eek::D

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I notice their smile, hands and the way they walk. Also their hair, am a sucker for a man with long hair!
Yes that's true . Sorry this gave me the urge to say 'A Hard Man is good to find'....

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In a lap dance club ????? :D:D:D

Youse are obviously doing something wrong then. :s_aim1::s_aim1:

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:eek:Love a man with long hair:s_cry::s_cry::s_cry::D

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i think its code, for anyone under 40 lol

cos not many wi any hair, never mind long lol

mines only long to cover up the bits that arent there:D:D:D:D

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You should be so lucky you seen my avatar:D:D

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I have a blown up one of that Jay, scaring birds out of the garden!!!! :hidewall::hidewall::hidewall::D:D:D:hidewall::hid ewall:

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it going in the window end of next month, keep the kids out of garden

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Excuse me Sir, you've infringed my copyright, expect to hear from my lawyer very soon:D:D

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Only joking Jay, wish we had a garden to put one in. :D. But what a good idea for keeping the kids away come halloween.:D:D:D

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I couldn't do what sugarmouse does(no sense of rhythm- body that needs rebuilding from the ground up)........and if I worked in one of these clubs the chaps would pay me to keep my clothes on.:D

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there is somebody out there that would pay for anything, i used to work in a bar in blackpool, and at the end of the night, a 21st party had been in all night, and we was having a laugh, one of the girls offered me £100 (i know some won't believe me, but hey) to go back to their hotel and "do a strip, for em"

i laughed it off, what would they possibly want to see that for, she then showed me the money and was been totally serious.

i declined the offer, for no other reason than, if it was the other way round and it was my wife being offered the money, i would be livid.

it wasnt anything to do with, pride, if someone was daft enough (as sugarmouse said) to pay for what i see in the shower, there loss my gain.
but i couldnt justify it to myself, however if it would have been £1000 then i probably would have done it and been a hypocrite, because even if it was a grand still be miffed at the missus.

but i could have justified it more to myself

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Believe me....no-one would want to look at my naked white wrinkly flesh...even I don't like looking at it!

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I shower by braille!

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No I never date men under 40 lol (hmm that explains a lot)....
Lol you'd be surprised. After a few drinks I have to take my shoes off to dance, otherwise I would make friends with the floor quite often.
Lol :D

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Cheeky blighter - I assure you it's quite good and if you behave the next time I'm in your bedroom, if you provide a pole, you might get a swift preview!;):D

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He may suggest you use his budgie perch instead :eek:

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Smile and hands are very important to me too. A good head of hair is of paramount importance - sorry for all those "thinning" chaps out there - not my thing at all. Good shoulders and forearms are nice too. Never really thought about how they walk - strong thighs and shapely calves...this list goes on, just as long as they aren't bow-legged.:D

Follow your urges - wish that one had come to me. Lol! Absolutely...:cool:

Karma sent

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So you women are just a shallow as us men then?

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Oy! Cheeky scouser...;)

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Not shallow at all -quite profound in the way we view certain things and reason them through -it takes a great deal of thought to work out what the magical ingredients are;):D

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Generally, I think women are less shallow than men, I take that opinion from the amount of men I talk to about relationships and this sort of thing, and from the amount of gorgeous women I know who are with men who are anything but..

I could be wrong though-not something I am dead set on believing.
I do like long hair, but I've dated men without it.

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I often get the old" is that your wife, punching above your weight" comment

My usual reply is, " you saying I knock the fat cow about"

Before I get slammed for that, she isn't fat. Check out my Flickr if u wanna see

But it's usually men that say it, I think it's a "safe" way of saying your partner is attractive,
That and I must be a right munter!!!!!

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Bald men aren't unattractive necessarily - Patrick Stewart (Capt Picard) looks good.

It depends on head shape and neck thickness accompanying it.
That thick necked skinhead look is a big turn off.

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Lol!
I like big men. Not necessarily FAT but I prefer overweight men to skinny or muscly men :)

I agree, but I know some lasses who like it!
Despite my liking long hair, I dated Sean Keefe (Preston musician) who is bald as a porn star's bits (couple of pics on here I think ) sean keefe | new album '…how I learned to sleep at night, part 1' out now!

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Agree with all that Margaret. I hate it when men shave off all their hair - for some reason I think it looks very aggressive on some - what you call the thicknecked skinhead look.

My man had lovely long blonde curly hair when I met him 36 years ago - funny cos I don't normally go for blondes - must have been his brain I went for!:rolleyes: It didn't last long (the hair I mean) and now he has the monk look which you can see well in my post today on today in pictures - Pic 1 of post 2445. He has more hair on his face than on his head - haven't seen his chin since 1977!

At least he doesn't sport a combover - and he nearly always wears a hat outside - Di I know you said you like the panama...

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:Banane42::Banane42::Banane42::Banane42::Banane42:

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why do bald mean grow beards?


cos they can!

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He wasn't bald when he grew it - just too lazy to shave when we were on a camping holiday...