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cashman 18-09-2011 20:24

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 934515)



If they bring money and jobs to the town, good luck to them.

But I'm afraid I won't be investing with them.

agree wi those two comments, also the detours,etc, as fer if its seen morally by anne, no idea, but does come across to me as a real moaning minny.:D

annesingleton 18-09-2011 20:35

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 934523)
agree wi those two comments, also the detours,etc, as fer if its seen morally by anne, no idea, but does come across to me as a real moaning minny.:D

I'm not a moaning minny at all, much more a grumpy old woman! I'm obviously portraying the wrong message, I would just like to see Accrington doing well and not going downhill as it seems to be doing, nothing more, and I can't see a lap dancing club taking it any more upmarket whatever the increase in employment (temporarily) might be!

Wynonie Harris 18-09-2011 20:38

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 934530)
I'm not a moaning minny at all, much more a grumpy old woman! I'm obviously portraying the wrong message, I would just like to see Accrington doing well and not going downhill as it seems to be doing, nothing more, and I can't see a lap dancing club taking it any more upmarket whatever the increase in employment (temporarily) might be!

Quite right - Accy should be more upmarket. How about a Hooters bar?

garinda 18-09-2011 20:43

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 934530)
I'm not a moaning minny at all, much more a grumpy old woman! I'm obviously portraying the wrong message, I would just like to see Accrington doing well and not going downhill as it seems to be doing, nothing more, and I can't see a lap dancing club taking it any more upmarket whatever the increase in employment (temporarily) might be!


Hate to disillusion you, but we're never going to be Stow-on-the-Wold.

You have to work with the demographics you're dealt.

I'm sure market forces would already have established chi-chi restaurants and wine bars, if such businesses were seen as economically viable.

annesingleton 18-09-2011 20:43

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I give up, I'll stay out of the town centre and leave it to the riff raff with the lap dancers, hooters and whatever else!

garinda 18-09-2011 20:49

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 934530)
not going downhill as it seems to be doing, nothing more, and I can't see a lap dancing club taking it any more upmarket whatever the increase in employment (temporarily) might be!

'Downhill' is the countless empty properties in Accrington, and never ending list of local businesses closing down.

If this new business succeeds, paying tax into our council's coffers, and providing jobs for local people...good.

garinda 18-09-2011 20:53

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 934536)
I give up, I'll stay out of the town centre and leave it to the riff raff with the lap dancers, hooters and whatever else!

God loves a tryer.

You're obviously not one.

Prefer to give in.

Moan people aren't giving their opinion, then throw a hissy, when people don't happen to share your own view.

Perseverance is a virtue.

;)

garinda 18-09-2011 20:59

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 934536)
I give up, I'll stay out of the town centre and leave it to the riff raff with the lap dancers, hooters and whatever else!


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1. People regarded as disreputable or worthless.
2. Rubbish; trash

Care to expand on this description?

Perhaps you could explain how we differ from the folks in your own hometown, Blackburn?

annesingleton 18-09-2011 20:59

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 934541)
'Downhill' is the countless empty properties in Accrington, and never ending list of local businesses closing down.

If this new business succeeds, paying tax into our council's coffers, and providing jobs for local people...good.

I do agree with you, but perhaps the council should be making more effort to drum up more culturally acceptable custom - of course sex will always sell, but does it pay in the long run when only appealing to a particular section of the community? And also in the long run will it bring in more custom when as I said previously it is being done far better than some seedy backwater club above a restaurant in a small downmarket town in East Lancashire?

garinda 18-09-2011 21:06

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 934545)
I do agree with you, but perhaps the council should be making more effort to drum up more culturally acceptable custom

Culturally acceptable to whom?

Sex has been important in every culture, both socially and economically, since monkeys decided to wear clothes.

I've worked in the centre of economically buoyant cities which have had these clubs, and never heard of any problems they have caused.

Your argument doesn't wash.

Margaret Pilkington 18-09-2011 21:08

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 934530)
I'm not a moaning minny at all, much more a grumpy old woman! I'm obviously portraying the wrong message, I would just like to see Accrington doing well and not going downhill as it seems to be doing, nothing more, and I can't see a lap dancing club taking it any more upmarket whatever the increase in employment (temporarily) might be!

So what would be your prescription for getting Accrington up and running then?
I am sure people would be very glad to hear of your suggestions. You could even enlighten HBC so they know just who to allow into town to trade.

Many industrial towns in the North West are suffering the same fate.
There is a lack of investment because nobody has much money to invest.......No-one is spending, incase they don't have a job tomorrow.

I don't know if you have looked around lately but all the boozers are shutting up shop.......changing to Indian Restaurants(how many indian restaurants can a town support)...lots of shops are empty...and the ones who are doing the most business are either charity shops or cut price stores(pound shops).
You don't need shops selling posh frocks when there is nowhere to go to wear your posh frock.

Wetherspoons and the meander in the thread came up because Wetherspoons was likened to the Lap dancing venue....so it wasn't a major thread wander....it was still about establishments that are in the town centre......that bring in trade.

Wynonie Harris 18-09-2011 21:10

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 934545)
I do agree with you, but perhaps the council should be making more effort to drum up more culturally acceptable custom - of course sex will always sell, but does it pay in the long run when only appealing to a particular section of the community? And also in the long run will it bring in more custom when as I said previously it is being done far better than some seedy backwater club above a restaurant in a small downmarket town in East Lancashire?

Who decides what is and what isn't "culturally acceptable"? Why shouldn't something pay if it only appeals to one section of the community? Know your market and go for it is a tried-and-tested commercial principle.

You're not in league with that Godbothering bloke, are you?

Margaret Pilkington 18-09-2011 21:12

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Do you mean Kev the Rev?

garinda 18-09-2011 21:13

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 934546)

Your argument doesn't wash.

In fact your argument is pish poor.

You'd prefer something else.

Something more 'culturally acceptable', 'less down market', but haven't said what.

If you object to this business opening because you think it's immoral, at least have the guts to say so, instead of coming out with all this guff about riff-raff etc.

Wynonie Harris 18-09-2011 21:13

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Yep, that's the feller, Margaret.


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