Artists in Accy?

[piltymon]

Sorry to ruin your thread Blazey but they all said they wouldn't post if I took part in a thread. I'm so heartbroken. I don't know what I'm going to do. Maybe I should cry and whine like a baby but, then again, why should I sink to their level huh? I've been looking at some more of your work and I have to say I'm very impressed. You seem to be a very promising artist to me. I wish I could be in your position again where the world is yur oyster!

[Acrylic-bob]

Originally Posted by blazey

This got the highest mark in the art exam so how dare you tell me my work cannot be art.

Because, irrespective of the mark your teachers decided to award, merely daubing paint on a surface and ascribing some obtuse meaning to the marks made is not "art". It never was and it never will be. "Art" is what happens in the mind of the viewer when considering the work of a master of his chosen craft. "Art provokes powerful, unexpected and often disturbing connections in the mind of the viewer. Go and see the work of Mark Rothko in the Tate Gallery and then ask the attendant how people react to it. Cutting and pasting the work of others does not demonstrate anything, other than a certain facility with glue and scissors.

Originally Posted by blazey

Shall I expect you to be at the preview to give a speech on how the moderators and my teachers have no capabilities at recognising art?

I am sure that your teacher is as capable of recognising "Art" as anyone else. Just as I am sure that your teacher is as capable of recognising dross in exactly the same way. The thing you must remember is that your teacher's continued employment, salary and pension depend on the grades acheived by students under his/her tuition. Regarding the "preview", thanks for the invitation but a quick look at my social diary reveals that I am scheduled to be sticking hot pins in my eyes that night. Sorry.

Originally Posted by blazey

Just because you don't like my style doesn't mean it isn't art.

You are actually quite correct in assuming that don't like your "style". I don't like it because I have seen it done so much better by people who knew what they were doing. I think that you will find, if you could be bothered to do the research, that the aims and objectives of the current curriculum, as it applies to studies up to 'A' level, is to increase awareness of the history of the subject and to encourage some practical appreciation of the skills employed. I am sure that even Tessa Jowell would not be so arrogant as to claim that the period of study leading to the 'A' level equipped candidates to be accomplished and finished artists.

Originally Posted by blazey

How dare you. Who are you to say what is and isn't art?

Errm, let me see...I hold O'level qualifications, A'level Qualifications, A Diploma of Higher Education, and a Degree, with honours, all in "Art" and related fields, I am also a member of the Association of Illustrators and I have earned a living from my work. I think that makes me more than qualified to offer a critique, don't you?

Originally Posted by blazey

Would you have even guessed the theme had it not been written for you to see?

I assume from this comment that your teachers have not seen fit to introduce you to the concept of "Art" as a method of communication that transcends the barriers of culture and the written word. What is the point of attempting to communicate an idea in purely visual terms which nobody can appreciate unless you accompany it with reams of tortuous written explanation?

[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by blazey

I dont recall saying that. In fact I don't recall saying much directly to you.

I would point you in the direction of the relevant post were it not for the fact that it has been removed (not at my request I hasten to add). I did question your comment at the time of posting but you chose not to reply - presumably because you had no facts to back up your ludicrous statement. Your memory seems to be failing you, a tragedy in one so young.

[Ianto.W.]

Acrylic-bob, What is the point of attempting to communicate an idea in purely visual terms which nobody can appreciate unless you accompany it with reams of tortuous written explanation?

And so say all of us, I wish I had your way with words 'Sir'.

[Royboy39]

I'll have one of your cakes Bob

[yerself]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

I would point you in the direction of the relevant post were it not for the fact that it has been removed (not at my request I hasten to add). I did question your comment at the time of posting but you chose not to reply - presumably because you had no facts to back up your ludicrous statement. Your memory seems to be failing you, a tragedy in one so young.

Whether or not I agree with Blazey I think you may owe her an apology. The relevant post has not been deleted it's here:http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/436326-post22.html

'Tis a tragedy of advancing years that one's memory begins to fail one.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by yerself

Whether or not I agree with Blazey I think you may owe her an apology. The relevant post has not been deleted it's here:http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/436326-post22.html

'Tis a tragedy of advancing years that one's memory begins to fail one.

i,m sure i read that comment a while before that was posted yerself, from somebody else, think the post your highlighting has quoted from it.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by yerself

Whether or not I agree with Blazey I think you may owe her an apology. The relevant post has not been deleted it's here:http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/436326-post22.html

'Tis a tragedy of advancing years that one's memory begins to fail one.

I had a feeling it wasn't me, though funnily enough I do suffer from a short term memory problem.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

Because, irrespective of the mark your teachers decided to award, merely daubing paint on a surface and ascribing some obtuse meaning to the marks made is not "art". It never was and it never will be. "Art" is what happens in the mind of the viewer when considering the work of a master of his chosen craft. "Art provokes powerful, unexpected and often disturbing connections in the mind of the viewer. Go and see the work of Mark Rothko in the Tate Gallery and then ask the attendant how people react to it. Cutting and pasting the work of others does not demonstrate anything, other than a certain facility with glue and scissors.


I am sure that your teacher is as capable of recognising "Art" as anyone else. Just as I am sure that your teacher is as capable of recognising dross in exactly the same way. The thing you must remember is that your teacher's continued employment, salary and pension depend on the grades acheived by students under his/her tuition. Regarding the "preview", thanks for the invitation but a quick look at my social diary reveals that I am scheduled to be sticking hot pins in my eyes that night. Sorry.


You are actually quite correct in assuming that don't like your "style". I don't like it because I have seen it done so much better by people who knew what they were doing. I think that you will find, if you could be bothered to do the research, that the aims and objectives of the current curriculum, as it applies to studies up to 'A' level, is to increase awareness of the history of the subject and to encourage some practical appreciation of the skills employed. I am sure that even Tessa Jowell would not be so arrogant as to claim that the period of study leading to the 'A' level equipped candidates to be accomplished and finished artists.


Errm, let me see...I hold O'level qualifications, A'level Qualifications, A Diploma of Higher Education, and a Degree, with honours, all in "Art" and related fields, I am also a member of the Association of Illustrators and I have earned a living from my work. I think that makes me more than qualified to offer a critique, don't you?


I assume from this comment that your teachers have not seen fit to introduce you to the concept of "Art" as a method of communication that transcends the barriers of culture and the written word. What is the point of attempting to communicate an idea in purely visual terms which nobody can appreciate unless you accompany it with reams of tortuous written explanation?

Love I honestly don't have the time to read that to comment on it as the life of a student is so hectic and I already got the qualification that I dont actually CARE what you are saying. Its not my chosen profession anyway so good luck to you with your life choice, but I'll make my own.

[Nickelson]

Willow in all fairness it was treacletart that said that to you. Not blazey , i see piltymon has been banned...

[blazey]

Originally Posted by Nickelson

Willow in all fairness it was treacletart that said that to you. Not blazey , i see piltymon has been banned...

To point out I know I wouldnt have mentioned her following me around any forums because the only other forum I use is the student one and I can't see her using that one

Nonetheless I wont expect an apology.

[davo69]

what good news

[blazey]

Originally Posted by davo69

what good news

I dont understand, is this a question?

[WillowTheWhisp]

Thank you to Yerself and Nickelson for pointing out my error. I do apologise Blazey. I was mistaken. It was indeed someone else. I had tried to find the post amongst yours and when I couldn't find it I assumed it was one of those which had been deleted. So it is my memory which is failing me, not yours failing you.

Of course now that I see it was posted by someone who has since been banned I suppose I will never know the answer and it will puzzle me forever.

[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by cashman

i,m sure i read that comment a while before that was posted yerself, from somebody else, think the post your highlighting has quoted from it.

There may well have been more than one post on the same theme but they more than likely had the same source, no wonder I couldn't find it where I was looking.

I'm supposedly so well known on other forums for my bad behaviour though and it really puzzles me as to where this might be. It's a shame I never got a reply.