funny how democracey works for some and not others

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

I voted Yes back then, cos i believe the Common Market was a great idea,n i was always a Labour Voter, But unlike some i have never been a sheep.

To be honest I didn't vote in the referendum as I was away working and didn't have a PV because I was sent away just two days prior to the vote, and to be honest I had little or on interest in Europe at the time, but I sure as hell never heard anything about being asked to vote for a federal state

[Margaret Pilkington]

I voted NO in the referendum of the EEC(Common Market) I was always suspicious that there was more to it than we were being told.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by gynn

A simple YES/NO vote on the UK membership would be an exercise in naivety.

Simple questions mean that there is no ambiguity...no bamboozlement, nothing that could be open to duplicitous interpretation.
YES = We stay in.
NO = We come out.
How is that naive?

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cashman

But unlike some i have never been a sheep.

Me neither Cashy...A monkey...maybe, a sheep...Never!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Simple questions mean that there is no ambiguity...no bamboozlement, nothing that could be open to duplicitous interpretation.
YES = We stay in.
NO = We come out.
How is that naive?

Yes/No.

In/Out.

Right/Wrong.

Responding to a fair, clearly worded question is only labelled naive by those who fear the answer.

[gynn]

Originally Posted by garinda

Yes/No.

In/Out.

Right/Wrong.

Responding to a fair, clearly worded question is only labelled naive by those who fear the answer.

The answer would be a clear vote to leave the EU. Nothing remotely to do with being afraid of the answer.

All to do with being in a position to do anything about it.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by gynn

The answer would be a clear vote to leave the EU. Nothing remotely to do with being afraid of the answer.

All to do with being in a position to do anything about it.

You've already stated you're happy with Britain's membership of the European Union.

So your opposition to a referendum, and defence for not having one, is somewhat tainted.

That's a fact...and we've got used to it.

The need for a referendum, whatever the result, is about a principle.

As the body we are members of today is fundamentally different from the organisation we voted to join.

That is wrong, and urgently needs addressing.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

You've already stated you're happy with Britain's membership of the European Union.

So your opposition to a referendum, and defence for not having one, is somewhat tainted.

That's a fact...and we've got used to it.

The need for a referendum, whatever the result, is about a principle.

As the body we are members of today is fundamentally different from the organisation we voted to join.

That is wrong, and urgently needs addressing.

Its always been about the principle Rindi, which apparently some people don't have, when we had a referendum before it was straight in or out and that was nothing to do with a single state just a trading agreement