Paris Shootings.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

My main motivation for reading "conspiracy theories" (apart from I like a laugh) is rather selfish (learning purposes).

So you hope to learn by watching heavily and badly edited videos put out by jihadist websites? The sooner you move onto the Beano the better.

I also (as you may of gathered) like to throw my findings into the mix (even if doing so makes me the "idiot").

Yes, I'm afraid it does.

If someone claims an alternative explanation to a official theory, I like to try and see if there's any substance or rationale to it,

Doesn't take long to show it's rubbish.


Now, there is much more at stake here than the video or the attacks and that is the powers that be are going to use it to expand wars, write away more rights and as usual increase surveillance.

17 folk get killed in France, (supposedly)??? over a question of free speech, and the first thing that governments want to do is use that event to take away free speech on the Internet

With mass murder across Paris and narrowly avoided in Belgium not unnaturally they want to stop mass murderers plotting mass murders on the internet.

The very same governments that expressed no outrage whatsoever as the U.S. military killed hundreds of thousands of civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere.

Incorrect by a few 0's- look up the figures for civilian deaths caused by US military action in those countries.

Do you not find it funny that "terrorism" is called "Foreign Policy" when we "the west" do it and "terrorism" for anyone else...actually don't answer that

Give me a quote of Western foreign policy which includes mass murder of civilians, rape of little girls, beheading in bulk etc.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

My main motivation for reading "conspiracy theories"

Be Honest, for once in your life, you read crap then you post crap, only because you think your crap is worth something.

Well you are right, your crap is worth something to you, unfortunately, it's worth nothing to the site or the folk that keep it alive.

So... either improve your post's OR leave the rest of us alone.

By the way whatever the French did to remove ****e like you I approve of.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by Less

Be Honest, for once in your life, you read crap then you post crap, only because you think your crap is worth something.

Well you are right, your crap is worth something to you, unfortunately, it's worth nothing to the site or the folk that keep it alive.

So... either improve your post's OR leave the rest of us alone.

I don't think that will work, Less.

Too subtle for him.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

I don't think that will work, Less.

Too subtle for him.

You have left yourself open to red karma from his alter ego Mr. T

[Restless]

Originally Posted by Less

You have left yourself open to red karma from his alter ego Mr. T

The other one I had was a MR D

[accyman]

Originally Posted by Less

You have left yourself open to red karma from his alter ego Mr. T

Originally Posted by Restless

The other one I had was a MR D

is this accywebbs version of cluedo

i like a good Mr.E


yup i think it was Mr .E in the hall with the candlestick

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by accyman

is this accywebbs version of cluedo

i like a good Mr.E


yup i think it was Mr .E in the hall with the candlestick

I love Cluedo,I've just got the terrorist edition...



....turns out they all did it,in the west, with a machine gun

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Give me a quote of Western foreign policy which includes mass murder of civilians, rape of little girls, beheading in bulk etc.

No quote sorry but 20,000 dead civilians are mentioned here in Afghanistan alone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...2%80%93present)

This is a better link showing civilian casualties in recent ish wars including those currently being killed by drone strikes in Pakistan and other places

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Neil

No quote sorry but 20,000 dead civilians are mentioned here in Afghanistan alone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...2%80%93present)

This is a better link showing civilian casualties in recent ish wars including those currently being killed by drone strikes in Pakistan and other places

Civilian casualty ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Terrorists are not members of any formal military organisation and must therefore also be classed as civilians. Military personnel wear uniform not civilian clothes (except Special Forces in certain circumstances).

[Gordon Booth]

Neil, I was disputing AccE's statement that 'US forces killed hundred of thousands of civilians'.
But then, you can dispute most of the things he posts!

Originally Posted by Neil

No quote sorry but 20,000 dead civilians are mentioned here in Afghanistan alone

A bit to read in your attachments but if you look at the figures I think the 20,000 is a total of all civilian deaths including Taliban action.

For instance- Total civilians killed / By Nato and Gov / By insurgent action

2008 / 2118 /823 /1160
2009 /2412 / 596 /1630
2010 /2777 /440 /2080
2011(1st 6 mth) /1462 /207 /1167

Still horrific figures but most of them Afghans killing Afghans. At least the Coalitions forces try not to kill civilians,more than can be said for the Taliban with their suicide bombers, IED's, executions etc.

Sorry, laid it out as a table but it didn't work.

[Accyexplorer]

The retaliation has started:-

Firebombs and pigs heads thrown into mosques as anti-Muslim attacks increase after Paris shootings - Europe - World - The Independent

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...m-9985072.html

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Neil, I was disputing AccE's statement that 'US forces killed hundred of thousands of civilians'.
But then, you can dispute most of the things he posts!



A bit to read in your attachments but if you look at the figures I think the 20,000 is a total of all civilian deaths including Taliban action.

For instance- Total civilians killed / By Nato and Gov / By insurgent action

2008 / 2118 /823 /1160
2009 /2412 / 596 /1630
2010 /2777 /440 /2080
2011(1st 6 mth) /1462 /207 /1167

Still horrific figures but most of them Afghans killing Afghans. At least the Coalitions forces try not to kill civilians,more than can be said for the Taliban with their suicide bombers, IED's, executions etc.

Sorry, laid it out as a table but it didn't work.

Perhaps when you get your lingual out of Less's sphincter you'll be able to comprehend what I was saying in comment

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Perhaps when you get your lingual out of Less's sphincter you'll be able to comprehend what I was saying in comment

You're grasp of Latin isn't very good. But then your grasp of most things seems questionable.

Perhaps if you had better control of your sphincter you wouldn't post so much rubbish on here.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Perhaps when you get your lingual out of Less's sphincter you'll be able to comprehend what I was saying in comment

Well you have to be admired, I've never known anyone put so much effort into proving themselves a simpleton as you do.

If you ever post anything of value or sense on site we'll know you've been plagiarising again.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

The retaliation has started:-

Not surprising really ... but, if you did read the article you may have noticed the following: "Islamophobic incidents are nothing new."

"Islamophobic incidents" are endemic in most Western countries ... but so again are "Antisemitic incidents" not to mention assorted racist horse shiite. If there were no retaliatory incidents, that would be news. Now, if some good ol' boys from Aryan Nations flew a jet liner into the Burj Khalifa the world would really sit up and take notice. Or nuke Mecca: