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Hey, Smudgie, don’t what world you’re living in but the one I seem to inhabit doesn’t have anyone in authority.:rolleyes:

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Discussions are already happening with FSA regarding how many people clubs can get into grounds social distancing. Clubs want fans back. Government want fans back.
For what it's worth, people within football I've spoke too - September is the target.

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By September with no increase in infections we should hopefully be able to scrap social distancing we will have to eventually or society,s normal will never return, to me football and sport in general along with hospitality and the tourism sector should be pushing hard for this. Selective crowds at any sports venues will bring problems example Sunderland 30,000 average how do you pick who goes to a game and how do you stop crowds gatherings outside if a selected amount are inside.

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Etimov, Edwards, Angol, Sousa and Carvelho all released and all loannees returned.

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Apparently Dan Jewell spoke to John Coleman yesterday any new recruits will be last minute and not before any definite start date for next season this could alarm Twenty Eight.

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Why would it alarm me ?
Isn't that what we've always tended to do ?
As for the list of those released there are no shocks.
By inference then does it mean the club is opening discussions with the rest that are out of contract and those under option ?

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Getting the same vibe Josh.
Ironically I've been told by someone at a League One club today they've been tasked with coming up with a figure and a plan to use open terracing only not seats that allows sufficient space for social distancing around the 2 metre rule and what difference it makes if distancing was reduced to 1 metre.
End of September looks a realistic target to me.

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Rick Parry has just announced that the threat of clubs going bust hasn't gone away and after weeks of trying to sort out this season attention turns to the £200 million financial black hole that will be reached by September if past actions are out to go on good luck with this one.

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How many clubs just asking before I look have terraces?

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Correct me if I am wrong league 1 six clubs league 2 nine clubs with some terraces rest all seater stadiums not a bad idea but could be costly.

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Our away fans would be able to social-distance at many of the clubs we play against. ;)

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NEWS: from their official twitter, Stanley have released Phil Edwards, Erico Souza, Wilson Carvalho, Dimi Evtimov and Zane Francis-Angol

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Sounds familiar. Whatever happened to the ‘new normal’? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

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I have never seen such disgusting language on Accy Web before, how anyone can actually use the words Bob Lord and not get banned is beyond belief.

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september is the date i,ve been thinking about for weeks now. there has been talk about moving the 2 metres to 1. add this on to another 10 to 12 weeks time we hopefully can get back. the main problem clubs will all have is at the end of games when the majority all go out together.

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There is talk this morning on Boris putting pressure on about getting shut of distancing altogether to get schools back and the economy moving has to happen.

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Looking like the next big debate for the EFL to chew over is clubs willingness to go along with a closed doors start to the season reports already circulating are a growing consensus among league 1 clubs to wait for full stadiums, amongst these is our very own Mr.Holt.

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Closed doors? Closed minds more like.
Why don’t theatres open to empty auditoriums, or cinemas show films to an empty room? Or shopping malls force shops to be fully staffed for 10 hours but then keep the doors into the malls locked.

Unless there is recompense for the lost income why should a club/business incur a financial loss just to conform to some idiotic seasonal schedule when it’s not viable.

However, I suspect by September (which I am quite happy to see reinstated as the sensible start of a footie season) things will be less insane than they have been for the last four months.

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They do, see Accy Vue.

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[QUOTE=andyd;1241067reports already circulating are a growing consensus among league 1 clubs to wait for full stadiums,

well they,ll all have a long wait for that full stadium thing. young stanley fans have seen more of these than those at the mighty coventry have seen.

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Interesting government briefing today hosted by culture secretary Oliver Dowden, he briefly touched on the subject of crowds back at stadiums infact stateing he had been in talks on the subject today. He said as always they would be guided by scientific advice on safety but touched on the challenges faced eg:- while distance rules applied, entry and exits, bars and eateries, toilets and he touched on reduced capacity maybe but hopefully will be back sooner than later. Also a brief mention on financial woes in the lower leagues says top flight football,s return releases TV money and hopes more could be passed down.

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Just announced that, subject to FA approval, Barrow will be in L2 next season.

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What is the world coming to?? :eek:

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Beats the hell outa Satanage fer me,

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We have a very chequered history with both clubs Cashy, the mention of either makes my hackles rise :eek:

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Barrow aren't in the same league as the scrotes and low life that are inbreded 4 fingered key warriors on the Borochat Stevenage forum some of the most venemous posts I have seen hope they are relegated and not saved at the last hour by an other Macclesfield points deduction.

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for one i welcome barrow back to the football league. thought they got a real raw deal at the time. always felt that a good fa cup giant killing including a wonder goal seemed more important than 50 years of league history and a few thousand fans who had no real alternatives to watch league football.

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Looking likely that 11th September is being looked at as a possible starting date for EFL that's 16 weeks away if it does become the case leaving plenty of time for recruitment and a possible pre season in August maybe, the big question is again can clubs survive so long without some financial input, so personally I think that Fans supporters groups, chairmen, management and staff of all clubs should unite in stating no start without fans to secure has many jobs for all employees of clubs.

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Well if the rumour mill is true we’re already looking at players.
Lets start our own runour mill
Tafari Moore
Jamie Reid

Anyone else ?

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Had a lad in from a National League North team in training before lockdown happened...

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Uncle Tom Cobley.

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missed out on him, he,s gone to morecambe.

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[QUOTE=Twenty Eight;1241241]Well if the rumour mill is true we’re already looking at players.
Lets start our own runour mill
Tafari Moore
Jamie Reid

our net for players seems to be getting bigger and bigger every season. colchester and torquay. any ghananian or japanese lads interested in us i wonder.

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He wanted relocation money from Devon. Deal breaker.

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Ian Henderson leaving Rochdale 35 years young still fit good goal scoring record especially against us good signing for anyone in league 1.

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Rochdale taken steps similar to Stanley all out of contract players released and no negotiation with agents or players on new signings untill date of new season announced another protecting their club,s income or lack of.

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Andy,
I suggest you get your facts right.
When did Stanley release all of their out of contract players ?

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Ian Henderson was offered a contract at Rochdale wouldn't sign so is let go I presume we are at the same stage at Accy if any offers haven't been signed by 30th June should imagine they will go.

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Oh here we go again.....
Many players sign deals to remain after 30th June...

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In other news 1/ you have no idea if deals have been offered by the Club. 2/ if they have whether the players have accepted.

Stick to facts.

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It's a discussion forum about the club we support have you got all the facts if so dish them out and chill.

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This is not a fact.
Accrington haven’t released all their out of contract players.

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Feared you might jinx things, Cashy, but just announced that Macclesfield survive and Satanage go down.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53028810

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If hopefully not but the season starts with reduced capacity,s what would be if there is one the fairest way of allotting places on the day, Wycombe interestingly have started selling season tickets 500+ first day saying if reduced capacity those who bought season tickets first will be allocated places first. Hopefully it won't come to this because a fair way never suits everyone.

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We do not have that many fans, or season ticket holders Andy, so we should not have a problem :)

But, understand what you mean, so Clubs will have massive problems.........

:) :) :)

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Accrington haven’t released all their out of contract players.
Fact.

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From 11th July the French to allow 5000 maximum in stadiums.

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What if a stadium only holds 4,999? :rolleyes:

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I think if they reduce capacities and spread out seats then Stanley would be lucky to get more than a few hundred with standing areas closed.

I can see away fans banned for a while too, all of which will mean we rely on iplayer and a change in the rules on who gets the money.

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If they dropped the distancing rule which is looking likely then we can get back towards a normality.

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I truly believe there are going to be major changes in social distancing rules and opening up the economy way before season 2020-2021 starts.
The strongest rumour remains at Saturday 26 September - that a long way down the line.
By then, God willing, fans will be allowed in.

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At least one Stanley fan has something to look forward to ;)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53126923

:) :) :)

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What everyone needs is a firm start date then season tickets can be sold income coming in and planning can be made.

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No chance terraces back in Sept unless alert level is 1. Difficult to sell season tickets as it will not be announced until it happens.

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Reduced capacity terrace easy to enforce and manage with 1 metre gap.
Think about families as well who live in same household etc...

I’m with TwentyEight. Confident of a September start to season. Announced early July time can give 10 week notice.

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Nothing is "easy" to enforce will be better if the distancing thing has gone before football and other fan attended sports are back, there are "idiots" everywhere I was in waiting room at hospital other day masked up a couple of women came in sat down and started eating their pies and drinking coffee just saying will be easier if as close to normal as possible let's all hope so.

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I’d say my local supermarket is enforcing easily the number of people in store....

Let’s also keep in mind (excluding bar before/after) how many people you actually come in ‘close contact’ with at a game.

Government specify that as less than 2m (soon to be ) away for more than 15 mins.

I’d say less than 20.

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I,m sure they will by then and they need to be for clubs to keep their finances hopefully on even keels and keep going nobody wants reduced capacity,s let's hope we get were we all want to be.

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Almost impossible to enforce unless you chain people to posts as they arrive and unlock them in order at the end of the game.

Stanley have given up enforcing the yellow hatched areas in the Clayton End a long time ago so I doubt they will bother opening it if everyone had to be 1 metre apart you would only fit 40 or less people across and a maximum of 3 deep.

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According to Dave Burgess,s update yesterday on twitter to fans once they receive a start date season tickets will go back on sale at early bird price and you will be able to purchase if you wish your existing seat great no distancing round me then.

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[QUOTE=Twenty Eight;1241311]
The strongest rumour remains at Saturday 26 September - that a long way down the line.

exactly. people seem to think football is going to start in a week or so. 2 metres shortly down to one. then it will still be over 10 weeks to go before that date is reached. way things are going i can see no reason to get back to normal by that date. will away fans be allowed in. well even if you have to come down to the wham and buy em physically its really impossible not to sell em to away fans. even that proof of adress thing cannot work as all stanley fans do not live in the area.

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rumour has it that he was their highest earner on 3 grand a week. think his release is more a financial decision rather than his ability. he must realize he aint going to get that type of wage again.

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According to their website they offered him a new deal he turned it down will someone sign him personally would think so proven goalscorer.

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With all that's going on talk of salary caps and reduced squads it's going to be a buyer's market with the player and agent,s power swinging towards the clubs I think, a canny manager if this happens could pick up from a bigger pool some astute bargains could be a very interesting few seasons to come.

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On their fans forum quite a few Rochdale fans saying they believe it was the length of the contract and not the money saying his agents were advising him to hang out for an extra year at his age maybe a risky statagy.

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S’funny, but, according to agents, it rarely seems to be about the money.:rolleyes:

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i always wondered why players need agents, are they incapeable of sorting stuff out for themselves?

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So you're saying you don't want any fans at games until social distancing removed in its entirety ?
See you in 2021 then - but not at Accy.
No way the club can sustain that.

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They need someone to blame if it goes wrong.
Contracts aren't just about wage negotiations.

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At least Seamus will be here next season even if the fans aren’t allowed!

He’s just signed a 2 year deal!

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Just read that, great news - good lad Seamus :)

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Good news. That's got to be a weight off Seamus' mind.

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And off most of our minds, too.
Good news.

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Fantastic news and very well deserved.
Shows Coley and Andy’s belief and trust in him that it’s a 2 year deal rather than just a 1 year or even 1+1.

I have a feeling there may be a few more extensions in the not so distant future ....

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I think a lot of people are quietly thinking that and a lot are saying it I,ll be at Accy where are you going can't see I,ll see you haven't a clue who you is.

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Again you miss the point.
If no fans till 2021 the club will be in deep water.
I will be there every game mate.
Great news for our Captain.

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I think a lot of clubs already in the deep water as you put it and that will be with most of their respective players and staff furloughed, that will end soon or the minute your staff and players return to work, that's when to me you,ll see the proverbial hit the fan, pubs, restaurants,etc don't want reduced capacity and income get back full as soon as possible get the fear factor out the way.

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S.C, Has set a great example to the players imho. fair play to the lad.

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I was thinking the same Cashy about Seamus’ bravery in setting the signings in motion. Great character from our Captain.:jimbo::jimbo::jimbo:
ON STANLEY ON:theband:
WITH CAPTAIN SEAMUS
LEADING THE TEAM.:wave8:

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I just wish the negativity sometimes expressed around our Captain would turn into positivity.
If ever you needed a player to lead by example Seamus is the man.
I doubt we’ll make a better signing pre season.
The pressure on his family is lifted and I couldnt be happier for Seamus Lauren Samuel and Finn.
When I think back to Seamus and Lauren loading up the car in Sligo and heading over to Lancs on an adventure ........
Lancashire is now their home.

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[QUOTE=Twenty Eight;1241363]I just wish the negativity sometimes expressed around our Captain would turn into positivity.

got to say that looking just at him on his own and his actual ability on the field i have not rated him since promotion. on the other hand stanley do look a far better team when he is in the side. its all about a team and not 11 individuals on the pitch that never click as a team. there is actually one guy who sits behind me would have anyone in a stanley shirt but him but the signing of zanzala quietened him somewhat.

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loads of things have been put into players contracts years and years before agents were ever thought of. even non league part timers have one nowadays. is it fashion over necesity i wonder.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1241364]It's always about the team personally I,m glad Seamus has signed decent player at this level and slows the game down, he,s a leader shouting at players but just sometimes wonder if carrying the captain's armband affects his performance at times with being in central midfield, always preferred a leader at the back personally just a thought.

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[QUOTE=andyd;1241367]Obviously not a preference held by the club as McConville is vice captain.
Never once have I thought Seamus would be "better" without the armband.

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[QUOTE=Twenty Eight;1241371]Didn't mention the clubs preferance just mine but when we got back our league place wasn't it a certain full back as Captain.

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In the modern game a midfielder as captain is more suited, especially with the dialogue with refs during a game. Usually closest to action etc.

Couldn't see anyone better being a captain on the pitch.
Hughes/McConville, even Sykes are natural leaders but sometimes their passion can overspill and I feel too much communication with the ref could lead to further bookings etc...

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Do you mean by modern game that stuff played in the premiership where by the way out of 20 clubs 10 are captained by defender's 1 a keeper, just 5 by midfielder,s.

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No.

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[QUOTE=andyd;1241373]Thing is we've no left back, a right back I think we will sell before next season, Ross Sykes (too early for him) and anyone heard whether Yosser is staying ?

So what's the alternative Andy ?

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Mmm;

I can think of 4 right or left backs;

Yozzer has a life sentence; his choice;

With Ben B and Lami in midfield think Seamus could play in the Back Four?

Why will Callum go for a six figure fee? Another "lifer" !

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Well my moneys on the middle of September in front of just season ticket holders [ to help drive season ticket sales ]

Terracing, not a problem they just spray numbered squares on the floor and allocate tickets to them.

By then the real issue will be traceability in the event something does go wrong and what better than already having the name and address, tel number and seating/standing position of everyone in attendance.

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Not Quite from the first of July, you can work part-time so you leave your players on furlough till you bring them back 30 days before the season starts say 20 hours a week that way you can get 50% furlough money till the day of your first match.

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Preston are releasing their defender and club captain Tom Clarke at 32 years young would be an excellent signing at league 1 level sure he'll be snapped up.

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neither can i at the moment. mind you some clubs do seem to give te armband to one of their more gobby players as the captains do seem to get more leeway from referess because of their position.

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Mark,

Don't understand what you mean by lifer ?

Every player has a price.

Seamus has played full back throughout his career - but most definitely not his position of choice as you well know !

I thought Hughesy was on a one year option. Has that been exercised ? We need him.

Has Ben Barclay signed then ? Is that an exclusive for us ?!

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Zanzala released.

Club taken up options on Johnson, Maguire, Rodgers, Perritt, Barclay and Hughes.
Niall Watson and Clicker offered new deals.

Youngsters released - Lewis Doyle, Matty Williams, Andy Scott (was under contract until 2022) Lewis Gilboy and Alex O'Neill

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Going to be a much smaller squad next season Coleman has said no mention of loan scenario yet will be interesting no surprises on players let go, glad young Watson offered a deal hope he signs looks what I have seen a decent prospect wait and see on Clarke.

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That leaves us at the moment with a squad of 17 plus maybe 2 if they sign.

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Cheers Josh. That clarifies Mark's post.