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VALAIRIAN 25-05-2020 13:27

Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240373)
I’m fairly confident this is situation at moment ........

Under Contract - Savin, Sykes, Ogle,LKS, Finley, Pritchard, McConville, Bishop, Charles, Scott.


Club has option - Edwards, Johnson, Hughes, Maguire, Carvalho, Barclay, Mohammed, Doyle.

Out of Contract - Evtimov, Clark, Zanzala, ZFA, Sousa, Conneely, Watson, Rodgers.



Un-sure about youth players but imagine apart from ones above all expire this summer.
Perritt, Williams, Bolton, Martin, O’Neill, Gilboy.


So, taking this as read - and I do not have any reason not to - how do we go about assembling a squad/team for season 15, or to finish season 14?? :)

I think that it is quite obvious, we need a defence and goalkeeper?

Of the players under contract, who would you let go?

Which options would you take up?

Would you offer to any out of contract??

Who is out there, that might be tempted to us?? :)

Trying to think of the future and take my mind off the present.... At the end of the day, football will comeback and - hopefully - Stanley will be taking part :)

:) :) :)

StanleyJosh 25-05-2020 15:49

Re: Next season??
 
Tough to think about next season when unsure of budgets etc....
if usual circumstances, I would like to see us retaining...
Conneely, Hughes, Johnson, Mohammed and possibly Maguire/Barclay.
1st year pros I’d probably keep Perritt, Martin, Gilboy. Maybe Matty Williams.
No issues with Clark leaving, he’s been a fantastic servant, we’ve helped him like he has helped us.

Again in usual circumstances, we’d need a keeper (do we keep Savin as 2nd choice or get him game time on loan??)centre half to push Yosser, winger to replace Clicker, attacking mid and a few strikers.

Next seasons starting XI could be....

Savin
Johnson, Hughes, Sykes, Ogle
McConville, Conneely, Finley, Pritchard
Charles, Bishop

I’d like a more creative midfielder as cover for Finley suspension, Barclay similar to Seamus.

andyd 25-05-2020 16:31

Re: Next season??
 
I think Connelly could be attracting interest from elsewhere Salford one I saw somewhere in these uncertain times don't personally think there will be any offers will keep what we have and move on when it is possible to work out a budget. Because as it is there is no budget for existing contracts as will be the case at most clubs.

cashman 25-05-2020 17:42

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myself i just want next season.:eek:

monkey hanger 26-05-2020 10:01

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just hope no one gets a bright idea in asking fans to donate money to keep zanzala at the club for another season.

andyd 26-05-2020 11:54

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1240513)
just hope no one gets a bright idea in asking fans to donate money to keep zanzala at the club for another season.

In my time seen some good and pretty poor strikers at Stanley and nothing against the lad but he is definitely in the second category.

StanleyJosh 26-05-2020 12:14

Re: Next season??
 
Andy, where has the Salford link come from?

Twenty Eight 26-05-2020 12:18

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240494)
I think Connelly could be attracting interest from elsewhere Salford one I saw somewhere in these uncertain times don't personally think there will be any offers will keep what we have and move on when it is possible to work out a budget. Because as it is there is no budget for existing contracts as will be the case at most clubs.

It's Conneely ..... haha !
If no offers by the club then I assume you include players upon whom we have options as well as those out of contract.
That being the case we won't be making offers to Johnson or Hughes in Josh's starting line up.
However I think that Conneely Johnson and Hughes would be on my list to retain.
They are not exactly huge earners.
In the case of Hughes and Conneely you're buying in experience and as sure as eggs are eggs anyone we bring in will be vastly inexperienced at this level.
Add in the suspension of Finlay and to me it would be illogical to let the club captain go.

StanleyJosh 26-05-2020 12:21

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240520)
It's Conneely ..... haha !
If no offers by the club then I assume you include players upon whom we have options as well as those out of contract.
That being the case we won't be making offers to Johnson or Hughes in Josh's starting line up.
However I think that Conneely Johnson and Hughes would be on my list to retain.
They are not exactly huge earners.
In the case of Hughes and Conneely you're buying in experience and as sure as eggs are eggs anyone we bring in will be vastly inexperienced at this level.
Add in the suspension of Finlay and to me it would be illogical to let the club captain go.

Mate, it’s Finley (haha sorry couldn’t resist!) ;)

andyd 26-05-2020 12:29

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240520)
It's Conneely ..... haha !
If no offers by the club then I assume you include players upon whom we have options as well as those out of contract.
That being the case we won't be making offers to Johnson or Hughes in Josh's starting line up.
However I think that Conneely Johnson and Hughes would be on my list to retain.
They are not exactly huge earners.
In the case of Hughes and Conneely you're buying in experience and as sure as eggs are eggs anyone we bring in will be vastly inexperienced at this level.
Add in the suspension of Finlay and to me it would be illogical to let the club captain go.

I agree I would go with all three but as regards wether they are big earners or not in these uncertain times and the possibility of no budget it's possible they may have to go and as I said before any staff could unfortunately be vumerable hopefully it won't come to that.

Twenty Eight 26-05-2020 13:45

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240522)
I agree I would go with all three but as regards wether they are big earners or not in these uncertain times and the possibility of no budget it's possible they may have to go and as I said before any staff could unfortunately be vumerable hopefully it won't come to that.

No budget ?
You mean we want players to play for nothing ?
OK let them go.
And replace with ?
I will certainly make a firm prediction that any replacements will not be substantially cheaper wage wise because we are starting at a low base point.
Everyone thinks that the covid-19 means everyone's going to ask for less.
Won't happen.
I heard this today from someone I have the utmost respect for in the game.
"Strange times ...... but I know of a few clubs in League One /Two who are going to gamble and look to steal a march on those being ultra cautious and go all out for promotion"

That's football for you.
I know before everyone starts barating me that Accrington aren't that type of club and I'm not suggesting for one minute that they should do so.
Player wise my motto would be better the devil you know and keep as much of what we've got.

Twenty Eight 26-05-2020 13:48

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240521)
Mate, it’s Finley (haha sorry couldn’t resist!) ;)

Hahaha ! At least mine is pronounced the same !

Mr T 26-05-2020 15:50

Re: Next season??
 
New wages/contracts will ( in my view) have to come down at every club.

Squad salary caps and squad size will be voted in very soon. Only not be talked about too much as all the focus is on finishing this season.

There will be a real focus on "home grown" u21's

andyd 26-05-2020 16:25

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Ten out of contract players let go at Bradford including Shay McCarten.

Twenty Eight 26-05-2020 19:26

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1240526)
New wages/contracts will ( in my view) have to come down at every club.

Squad salary caps and squad size will be voted in very soon. Only not be talked about too much as all the focus is on finishing this season.

There will be a real focus on "home grown" u21's

I get that.
Burton are asking some players out of contract to take a 25% pay cut.
However they are offering terms !
Equally 25% off a decent number ............ is still a decent number.
Even if the salary cap was introduced at 2.5 mill surely that's way above our budget anyway even if covid-19 hadn't arrived ????

Mr T 26-05-2020 19:29

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240527)
Ten out of contract players let go at Bradford including Shay McCarten.

Just spoke to Shay; one of lifes "good guys":)

Mr T 26-05-2020 19:32

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240533)
I get that.
Burton are asking some players out of contract to take a 25% pay cut.
However they are offering terms !
Equally 25% off a decent number ............ is still a decent number.
Even if the salary cap was introduced at 2.5 mill surely that's way above our budget anyway even if covid-19 hadn't arrived ????

Yes Burton have "issues" suspect they rely their "non match day income"

Salary and squad caps won't bother ASFC; it will bother most in L1 and some in L2

Twenty Eight 26-05-2020 19:37

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240527)
Ten out of contract players let go at Bradford including Shay McCarten.

Andy - the point you're missing however is that they have retained 12 and taken up one year options on a further three !
10 out is hardly surprising regardless of covid-19 at League Two.
Big Ben stays.

andyd 27-05-2020 07:08

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240536)
Andy - the point you're missing however is that they have retained 12 and taken up one year options on a further three !
10 out is hardly surprising regardless of covid-19 at League Two.
Big Ben stays.

I,m not missing anything all out of contract were released a lot of there fans on their forum for instance saying Shay would among others probably would have been offered something normally as for those retained they are contracted nothing to say if things get financially worse is Bradford could make them redundant. Hopefully things might slowly improve but if crowds aren't allowed don't start the season till they are then as money trickles in start to recruit but think Mr T is right a lot will look at youth and ambition for some will be shelved for a while as they will be grateful to be still around.

Twenty Eight 27-05-2020 10:02

Re: Next season??
 
Andy,
Mr T has dropped you the tip that restricted squad sizes are on the horizon.
That's the reason Bradford have released so many because they still have 12 contracted.
In addition they have three with one year options - and they have all been offered terms.
If they wanted Shay they could have kept him.
Clearly they didn't.
If squads are limited to 20 they have already got 15.

monkey hanger 27-05-2020 10:19

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the amount of loan moves that shay had at bradford it was obvious he,d be released at the first chance they got. got injured early on there and never quite became a regular.

andyd 27-05-2020 10:32

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240542)
Andy,
Mr T has dropped you the tip that restricted squad sizes are on the horizon.
That's the reason Bradford have released so many because they still have 12 contracted.
In addition they have three with one year options - and they have all been offered terms.
If they wanted Shay they could have kept him.
Clearly they didn't.
If squads are limited to 20 they have already got 15.

Who needs a tip it's pretty obvious that the way things are going money will be tight or non at all squads management and staff are going to be surplus to requirements at a lot of clubs.

Twenty Eight 27-05-2020 12:23

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OK Andy - you get it all.
If you seriously believe "none at all" you're having a laugh.
Tightening of the belts yes.
When decisions are made about the start of next season we can all revisit this and see how many signings clubs make and at what cost.

StanleyJosh 27-05-2020 12:31

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I imagine there will be a few ‘businessmen’ about with a few bob who see this as an ideal scenario for a new toy...
All these clubs allegedly desperate for investment, players on cheap wages, great players released by clubs on a free transfer....

Where do I sign up??!!?!!’

Mr T 27-05-2020 13:43

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240553)
I imagine there will be a few ‘businessmen’ about with a few bob who see this as an ideal scenario for a new toy...
All these clubs allegedly desperate for investment, players on cheap wages, great players released by clubs on a free transfer....

Where do I sign up??!!?!!’

Here you go Josh

Charlton; think you need to pay May's wages and get ready to play Championship football behind closed doors!!
Southend; Ron's desparate to sell. Old ground is falling down but don't worry the new one will be on the way "next season"
Oldham; could write a book on this one; own nothing bar the name and the bills!! No income for the foreseeable future.
Macclesfield; could you sort the May wages and pay back the £10k their Trust has given them to top up the players April wages
Swindon; sure I read that a £5 million take over has been stopped by the courts??
Morecambe; sure I've ready they've lost £500k for the last 2 season's and that's paying the lowest wages in the EFL

PM and I'll send you any details plus the EFL tests and business plan that's required ;)

andyd 27-05-2020 14:20

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240552)
OK Andy - you get it all.
If you seriously believe "none at all" you're having a laugh.
Tightening of the belts yes.
When decisions are made about the start of next season we can all revisit this and see how many signings clubs make and at what cost.

Ah ah I,m splitting my sides.

andyd 27-05-2020 14:39

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240553)
I imagine there will be a few ‘businessmen’ about with a few bob who see this as an ideal scenario for a new toy...
All these clubs allegedly desperate for investment, players on cheap wages, great players released by clubs on a free transfer....

Where do I sign up??!!?!!’

You mean the likes of Lawrence Bassinni, Saudi princes, Mike Ashley uncle Tom Cobley and all.

Twenty Eight 27-05-2020 15:11

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1240554)
Here you go Josh

Charlton; think you need to pay May's wages and get ready to play Championship football behind closed doors!!
Southend; Ron's desparate to sell. Old ground is falling down but don't worry the new one will be on the way "next season"
Oldham; could write a book on this one; own nothing bar the name and the bills!! No income for the foreseeable future.
Macclesfield; could you sort the May wages and pay back the £10k their Trust has given them to top up the players April wages
Swindon; sure I read that a £5 million take over has been stopped by the courts??
Morecambe; sure I've ready they've lost £500k for the last 2 season's and that's paying the lowest wages in the EFL

PM and I'll send you any details plus the EFL tests and business plan that's required ;)

And on the reverse side of the coin, Sunderland Portsmouth et al will be throwing it about in search of the Holy Grail.
Bolton having served their suspension and cleared the decks ............ wonder if they invest in an immediate return to League One ?

andyd 27-05-2020 16:46

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When the powers to be finally sort this season out we move on to the more difficult decision next season, crowds or lack of them current thinking no crowds without vaccine could never happen worst case scenario, so thinking outside the box social distancing crowds been mentioned in some quarters again possible expenditure to bring in less than before also would it be lottery style tickets for those members season ticket holders. Anyone with any decent ideas feel free to post never know could be picked up by the EFL and put to good use.

andyd 27-05-2020 18:20

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240559)
And on the reverse side of the coin, Sunderland Portsmouth et al will be throwing it about in search of the Holy Grail.
Bolton having served their suspension and cleared the decks ............ wonder if they invest in an immediate return to League One ?

Bradford manager Stuart Mcall bearing in mind that they are one of the "preverbial big hitter's " in league 2 has said agents constantly on phone but says they won't be signing anyone until there is a clear path ahead. He mentions the likes of furloughed staff and would new signings qualify for it probably not is the answer, like I,ve said before most sensible business men/chairman should tread with caution in an uncertain market, ie:- little or no income but you,ll get your gamblers that is why the game is in the mess it's found itself in, thankfully Mr.Holt is one of the more sensible type and won,t jeperdise the clubs future.

Twenty Eight 27-05-2020 18:51

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Answer me this then Andy.
Why have Bradford told all three of their first team squad one one year options they are exercising that option ?
We haven't done it ?.............
I'll tell you why.
Because that leaves him with FIFTEEN in his first team squad for next year all tried and tested.
Why would he need to enter the transfer market when he can supplement this squad with his nucleus of youngsters ?
Do you consider that treading carefully ?
I think if Andy Holt said that to Coley this he'd be wetting his pants.
"Coley - you've got 12 already contracted, take up the other three on options and promote your best kids"
Wake up and smell the coffee.
There are haves and have nots.
There are speculators
There are gamblers
There are Andy Holts.
Good on him but if you think there's going to be a lower league epidemic ................
Lemins in football will never disappear.

andyd 27-05-2020 19:19

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240564)
Answer me this then Andy.
Why have Bradford told all three of their first team squad one one year options they are exercising that option ?
We haven't done it ?.............
I'll tell you why.
Because that leaves him with FIFTEEN in his first team squad for next year all tried and tested.
Why would he need to enter the transfer market when he can supplement this squad with his nucleus of youngsters ?
Do you consider that treading carefully ?
I think if Andy Holt said that to Coley this he'd be wetting his pants.
"Coley - you've got 12 already contracted, take up the other three on options and promote your best kids"
Wake up and smell the coffee.
There are haves and have nots.
There are speculators
There are gamblers
There are Andy Holts.
Good on him but if you think there's going to be a lower league epidemic ................
Lemins in football will never disappear.

He isn't signing anyone because of uncertainty nothing else not just budgets but because the EFL shivers and shakes in the shadow of the premiership praying probably for a bailout which I personally doesn't think will happen, hopefully proved wrong they are still piddling about over this season, next season could bring in salary caps squad limits, all sorts of different rules.Mcall has said his 15 man squad is badly unbalanced in his view and needs to address that but targets are unrealistic at this time due to before said scenarios unfolding. Also in his 12 contracted players he doesn't fancy a few you can bet Guthrie ex Stanley not much game time and fans don't like him going to get fiesty in next few weeks.

andyd 27-05-2020 19:45

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Sorry to bore you coming back to the 12 contracted Bradford players, six played regularly this season Guthrie couldn't get in side the other five ok one is only eighteen all out on loan so would Mcall have kept them if they weren't contracted and if restricted to twenty could be very interesting.

monkey hanger 28-05-2020 09:20

Re: Next season??
 
[QUOTE=StanleyJosh;1240553]I imagine there will be a few ‘businessmen’ about with a few bob who see this as an ideal scenario for a new toy...
All these clubs allegedly desperate for investment, players on cheap wages, great players released by clubs on a free transfer....

think there will be plenty of owners using the present situation as a get out for them. there obviously will have been winners in business during the virus but i doubt there will be that many who would want to lose part of their newly gained wealth in the bottomless pit of football.

VALAIRIAN 28-05-2020 10:11

Re: Next season??
 
Originally Posted by StanleyJosh:-

I’m fairly confident this is situation at moment ........

Under Contract - Savin, Sykes, Ogle,LKS, Finley, Pritchard, McConville, Bishop, Charles, Scott.

Club has option - Edwards, Johnson, Hughes, Maguire, Carvalho, Barclay, Mohammed, Doyle.

Out of Contract - Evtimov, Clark, Zanzala, ZFA, Sousa, Conneely, Watson, Rodgers.


Un-sure about youth players but imagine apart from ones above,
all expire this summer.

Perritt, Williams, Bolton, Martin, O’Neill, Gilboy.
************************************************** ***********

Just to try and get back on thread, all depends on the player and ££££, but - if the price was right - I would offer Hughes, Barclay and Maguire :)

One has experience, one has youth and potential and Maguire has shown in patches, he can play :)

Still thinking about the rest :)

:) :) :)

andyd 28-05-2020 10:57

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1240583)
Originally Posted by StanleyJosh:-

I’m fairly confident this is situation at moment ........

Under Contract - Savin, Sykes, Ogle,LKS, Finley, Pritchard, McConville, Bishop, Charles, Scott.

Club has option - Edwards, Johnson, Hughes, Maguire, Carvalho, Barclay, Mohammed, Doyle.

Out of Contract - Evtimov, Clark, Zanzala, ZFA, Sousa, Conneely, Watson, Rodgers.


Un-sure about youth players but imagine apart from ones above,
all expire this summer.

Perritt, Williams, Bolton, Martin, O’Neill, Gilboy.
************************************************** ***********

Just to try and get back on thread, all depends on the player and ££££, but - if the price was right - I would offer Hughes, Barclay and Maguire :)

One has experience, one has youth and potential and Maguire has shown in patches, he can play :)

Still thinking about the rest :)

:) :) :)

Agree about Maguire he was just getting a run in the side nice left peg which helps at left back, plus he wasn't a loanee as seen many times with loannees at the turn of the year many seem to lose their form illustrated this season by Okupa he just seemed to me to have lost interest or his good form had got to his head.

StanleyJosh 28-05-2020 10:58

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Not our captain??
Finley out for what will likely be the first 8 games of next season.
Big ask finding 2 starting XI CM’s ....

andyd 28-05-2020 11:30

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240592)
Not our captain??
Finley out for what will likely be the first 8 games of next season.
Big ask finding 2 starting XI CM’s ....

There could potentially be 1400 out of work footballers wage demands falling patience is a viture their could well be far better than our midfield out there, which would be good because our midfield this season went missing a lot hence our league position and until the stoppage we were on a very poor run with injuries and suspensions a squad that was one of the poorer one,s John and Jimmy had assembled in a while IMHO.

StanleyJosh 28-05-2020 12:51

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240598)
There could potentially be 1400 out of work footballers wage demands falling patience is a viture their could well be far better than our midfield out there, which would be good because our midfield this season went missing a lot hence our league position and until the stoppage we were on a very poor run with injuries and suspensions a squad that was one of the poorer one,s John and Jimmy had assembled in a while IMHO.

They won’t be ending up at Accrington then.
If you think Conneely was the problem then we must be watching different games, every time he is injured we lose form and seem to pick up form when he returns.
Poor squad? With premier league loanees? And ex Prem academy players. When have we ever had that luxury?
Sometimes the mind boggles.

Twenty Eight 28-05-2020 13:40

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240598)
There could potentially be 1400 out of work footballers wage demands falling patience is a viture their could well be far better than our midfield out there, which would be good because our midfield this season went missing a lot hence our league position and until the stoppage we were on a very poor run with injuries and suspensions a squad that was one of the poorer one,s John and Jimmy had assembled in a while IMHO.

Yes - all the midfield's fault wasn't it ?
Nothing to do with forwards who couldn't hit a barn door from 12 inches.

If you think you can replace the club captain who knows the club inside out and personally was in good form when the season came to an abrupt stall for chump change then good luck.

andyd 28-05-2020 15:08

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240601)
They won’t be ending up at Accrington then.
If you think Conneely was the problem then we must be watching different games, every time he is injured we lose form and seem to pick up form when he returns.
Poor squad? With premier league loanees? And ex Prem academy players. When have we ever had that luxury?
Sometimes the mind boggles.

8 loanees Burzik not bad had a lot better in the past on the goalkeeper front, Okupa pick of the bunch but losing interest and form, Alese looked decent not enough game time, Diallo same not enough game time, Grant decent player came too late, Ashley Seal didn't do anything for me but again arrived late, Baker Richardson ex prem crock, Simpson never played. Some of the fringe players not good enough Sousa, Carvello, Angol, Rodgers who has lost his way big time, Edwards good experience player not picked towards the end head scratched plus all the youngsters 8 or 9 I count 22 players there who were either to young not good enough or only played due to injuries and suspensions far to big a squad of not league 1 standard that's why we struggled in a average standard league this season.

andyd 28-05-2020 15:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240601)
They won’t be ending up at Accrington then.
If you think Conneely was the problem then we must be watching different games, every time he is injured we lose form and seem to pick up form when he returns.
Poor squad? With premier league loanees? And ex Prem academy players. When have we ever had that luxury?
Sometimes the mind boggles.

Not picking on Connelly but the best bit of form and I emphasize form cause we didn't have much was in December 5 league games unbeaten 3 wins 2 draws and Mr.Conneelly played in 2 of them our last 4 games before shutdown were pretty abysmal 1 draw at Bolton a terrible display at Oxford beaten at home by Tranmere and Rochdale were incidentally that day their midfield trio of Camps, Rathbone and the excellent ex red Ryan run the show.

andyd 28-05-2020 15:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240605)
Not picking on Connelly but the best bit of form and I emphasize form cause we didn't have much was in December 5 league games unbeaten 3 wins 2 draws and Mr.Conneelly played in 2 of them our last 4 games before shutdown were pretty abysmal 1 draw at Bolton a terrible display at Oxford beaten at home by Tranmere and Rochdale were incidentally that day their midfield trio of Camps, Rathbone and the excellent ex red Ryan run the show.

Sorry memories going it was Rotherham not Rochdale were we didn't play that bad but the Rochdale info still stands.

VALAIRIAN 28-05-2020 16:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240592)

Not our captain??


Finley out for what will likely be the first 8 games of next season.
Big ask finding 2 starting XI CM’s ....

Not saying that StanleyJosh :)

I have looked at the options first of all :)

:) :) :)

Twenty Eight 28-05-2020 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240605)
Not picking on Connelly but the best bit of form and I emphasize form cause we didn't have much was in December 5 league games unbeaten 3 wins 2 draws and Mr.Conneelly played in 2 of them our last 4 games before shutdown were pretty abysmal 1 draw at Bolton a terrible display at Oxford beaten at home by Tranmere and Rochdale were incidentally that day their midfield trio of Camps, Rathbone and the excellent ex red Ryan run the show.

You had two goes at getting his name right and got them both wrong.
Can I ask a question Andy ?
What formation do we normally play ?
Because the way you’re talking we only play with one in midfield.
Whats your view of the strikers in those games you’ve selected ?

Twenty Eight 28-05-2020 18:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240604)
8 loanees Burzik not bad had a lot better in the past on the goalkeeper front, Okupa pick of the bunch but losing interest and form, Alese looked decent not enough game time, Diallo same not enough game time, Grant decent player came too late, Ashley Seal didn't do anything for me but again arrived late, Baker Richardson ex prem crock, Simpson never played. Some of the fringe players not good enough Sousa, Carvello, Angol, Rodgers who has lost his way big time, Edwards good experience player not picked towards the end head scratched plus all the youngsters 8 or 9 I count 22 players there who were either to young not good enough or only played due to injuries and suspensions far to big a squad of not league 1 standard that's why we struggled in a average standard league this season.

So who’s fault is that ?
Who constructed the squad ?

andyd 28-05-2020 20:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240609)
So who’s fault is that ?
Who constructed the squad ?

Can't always get it right but had more right than wrong over the years.

andyd 28-05-2020 20:54

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Lincoln city let 11out of contract players go saying that in these uncertain times they can,t make any positive decisions on out of contract players and have took the action early to give those involved some clarity.

Twenty Eight 28-05-2020 22:29

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240610)
Can't always get it right but had more right than wrong over the years.

And your response to the earlier post is ????

Twenty Eight 28-05-2020 22:31

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240611)
Lincoln city let 11out of contract players go saying that in these uncertain times they can,t make any positive decisions on out of contract players and have took the action early to give those involved some clarity.

Not remotely surprised.
Their salary structure is one of the best in their division and beats ours hands down.

Twenty Eight 28-05-2020 22:36

Re: Next season??
 
Not a bad retained list either for League two.

Jordan Adebayo-Smith
Harry Anderson
Cian Bolger
Alex Bradley
Ben Coker
Tayo Edun
Zack Elbouzedi
Jorge Grant
Tom Hopper
Aaron Lewis
Max Melbourne
Jack Payne
Anthony Scully

Chewbacca 29-05-2020 00:30

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240617)
Not a bad retained list either for League two.

Jordan Adebayo-Smith
Harry Anderson
Cian Bolger
Alex Bradley
Ben Coker
Tayo Edun
Zack Elbouzedi
Jorge Grant
Tom Hopper
Aaron Lewis
Max Melbourne
Jack Payne
Anthony Scully

A retained list is just players who have been offered a new contract on at least equivalent terns and doesn't mean any are staying. Part of putting players on the list is so you can get a development fee and also not pay month's severance pay.

andyd 29-05-2020 07:29

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240616)
Not remotely surprised.
Their salary structure is one of the best in their division and beats ours hands down.

It will be but their accounts posted year end 2019 shows a loss of £2.237,000 roughly whereas Stanley's same period shows a operation profit of £1,790.910 roughly which I would suggest puts us in a better position to ride the pandemic out.

andyd 29-05-2020 07:36

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240620)
It will be but their accounts posted year end 2019 shows a loss of £2.237,000 roughly whereas Stanley's same period shows a operation profit of £1,790.910 roughly which I would suggest puts us in a better position to ride the pandemic out.

And just to add that Lincoln more often than not played in front of full houses whereas we have the lowest average crowds in league 1 tell me how would you work their budget on nil crowds.

andyd 29-05-2020 08:32

Re: Next season??
 
Grimsby manager reveals that the club could go bust by September and the decision to let 9 players go to help the club as the worst day in his life.

monkey hanger 29-05-2020 09:48

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240623)
Grimsby manager reveals that the club could go bust by September and the decision to let 9 players go to help the club as the worst day in his life.

on the other hand why would any club who had a poor season offer extended contracts to players when they know better ones will become available and a possibility to reduce their wage bill at the same time. that goes for stanley as well as grimsby. afraid its always been a football thing where the rose tinted specs come out where your better players are concerned.

NORTHERNSOUL 06-06-2020 09:51

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240547)
Who needs a tip it's pretty obvious that the way things are going money will be tight or non at all squads management and staff are going to be surplus to requirements at a lot of clubs.


Just for clarity Salary Caps and Squad size limits etc will not apply to next season 20/21 but will at the earliest start the following year 21/22 but that will be with a years transition so unless clubs are planning to offer players contracts of more than 2 years length so as i see it the only difference for the minute will likely be the insertion of a clause that will mean that the renewal of any contract that expires at the end of 21/22 and more importantly 22/23 will be subject to restrictions imposed by the salary cap meaning they will be able to offer contracts on worse terms than the one they were on previously.

My feeling is once the above is confirmed [probrably after the EFL conference which i.m told they are still hoping to hold in person in Portugal but has been compromised by this balmy quarentine lark ] Andy and John arent stupid people if they believe a squad made up of the contracted players plus taking up the options and offering to a couple of the OOC players and those players are realistic and accept that an offer from Accy that may not be the best is still better than risking being thrown onto the scrap heap i believe you may well end up with most of the same established players as last season the difference will be there will be no headroom for taking gambles with players wanting full money.

Speaking with an agent friend of mine hes of the oppinion that there will be a cohort of young players with no financial commitments who will be willing to sign for what pre virus would be what you would call very low wages simply for the chance to stay in the proffessional game and the main driver of this will be that they won't have the NL cushion to rely on any more. He has a lot of other things he believe will come about but there will be no clarity really untill the clubs know how next season will start [wether behind closed doors, in front of restricted crowds [ season tickets holders only ] or even as normal ] and more importantly when that would be.

But somthing to take into consideration is that if you extended/ offered new contacts to existing players [ as opposed to signing new ones ] you could keep them on furlough till the scheme ends/new season starts which might not seem that important but even at Accy could run to an amount well North of 150k a figure that culd then be used to supplement the projected budget.

But if Accy are in need of an experienced Midfielder then they could do a lot worse than to look at Mike Jones released by Carlisle [ and not on massive wages having taken a cut 2 years ago when he last negotiated ] who is looking for a North West based club and whos stats are excellent [ and if you take away the spell under Sheridan are even better than that ] but i.d be pretty sure JC will already be well aware given that they are almost neighbours.

Mr T 06-06-2020 10:22

Re: Next season??
 
Some bits of sense NS, but not 100% correct

The EFL AGM was never going to be in Portugal. For some reason the hotel couldn't do our date. ( last Wednesday to yesterday)

We were using a base in the UK. That was cancelled in March

We're having the "official" AGM (on-line) in mid June.

At present squad salary cap hasn't been finalised as all are concentrating on the exact plan to finish this season.

Agree that, hopefully players will be realistic on new deals, but hearing stories that some players are still not understanding there is no money!!

cashman 06-06-2020 10:41

Re: Next season??
 
cheers fer that MrT, gonna be very strange to many people i think, but sod all we can do about things,

NORTHERNSOUL 06-06-2020 12:36

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1240800)
Some bits of sense NS, but not 100% correct

The EFL AGM was never going to be in Portugal. For some reason the hotel couldn't do our date. ( last Wednesday to yesterday)

We were using a base in the UK. That was cancelled in March

We're having the "official" AGM (on-line) in mid June.

At present squad salary cap hasn't been finalised as all are concentrating on the exact plan to finish this season.

Agree that, hopefully, players will be realistic on new deals, but hearing stories that some players are still not understanding there is no money!!

Ah ok mate I bow to your inside info

I did wonder how they were going to deal with a can we/can't we situation at such a late stage in the day.

But do you agree the cap etc won't start for 12 months or are you saying there is a possibility they will try to introduce it in time for the start of next season ? and have that as the transitional one.

Mr T 06-06-2020 14:01

Re: Next season??
 
We're (EFL and clubs) hoping to have it in for start of next season, with a "soft" one year exemption for existing (not new deals)

Ie a club has numerous players in year one of a 3 year deal or suffers relegation and needs a year to adjust.

The "saga" in L1 has slowed the debate and work down on this project.:mad:

NORTHERNSOUL 06-06-2020 15:31

Re: Next season??
 
Ah rite Mark thanks for that

I was under the impression that the transition season to allow for existing contracts would be 21/22 and not next season but I agree if they can get it in place for the start of next season it wouldn't be a bad thing.

Twenty Eight 07-06-2020 09:15

Re: Next season??
 
Its not going to affect our club anyway.
We will be well within salary cap as we would be even in a good year.

VALAIRIAN 07-06-2020 10:56

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1240583)


Originally Posted by StanleyJosh:-


I’m fairly confident this is situation at moment ........

Under Contract - Savin, Sykes, Ogle,LKS, Finley, Pritchard, McConville, Bishop, Charles, Scott.

Club has option - Edwards, Johnson, Hughes, Maguire, Carvalho, Barclay, Mohammed, Doyle.

Out of Contract - Evtimov, Clark, Zanzala, ZFA, Sousa, Conneely, Watson, Rodgers.


Un-sure about youth players but imagine apart from ones above,
all expire this summer.

Perritt, Williams, Bolton, Martin, O’Neill, Gilboy.
************************************************** ***********
:) :) :)

So, of the out of contract players - and again, it is if the price is right and the player wants it - Rodgers and Conneely would both be worth a punt, everyone has their own opinion about Conneely, but he is worth an offer and at the right price, Rodgers is worth a gamble, we all know what he can be and maybe a regular place would bring it out of him?? :) :) Could also be tempted to sign Zanzala, but again, price would have to be right and it would not be the first offer I made :)

:) :) :)

Twenty Eight 07-06-2020 12:05

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1240836)
So, of the out of contract players - and again, it is if the price is right and the player wants it - Rodgers and Conneely would both be worth a punt, everyone has their own opinion about Conneely, but he is worth an offer and at the right price, Rodgers is worth a gamble, we all know what he can be and maybe a regular place would bring it out of him?? :) :) Could also be tempted to sign Zanzala, but again, price would have to be right and it would not be the first offer I made :)

:) :) :)

What about the players where the club has a one year option ?

Twenty Eight 07-06-2020 12:05

Re: Next season??
 
Zanzala would be a definite no for me I'm afraid.

andyd 07-06-2020 14:57

Re: Next season??
 
After Tuesday if the vote goes ahead and the outcome is season over Stanley I would think will be making their list public we will find out then.

VALAIRIAN 07-06-2020 16:46

Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by valairian (Post 1240583)
originally posted by stanleyjosh:-

i’m fairly confident this is situation at moment ........

under contract - savin, sykes, ogle,lks, finley, pritchard, mcconville, bishop, charles, scott.

club has option - edwards, johnson, hughes, maguire, carvalho, barclay, mohammed, doyle.

out of contract - evtimov, clark, zanzala, zfa, sousa, conneely, watson, rodgers.


un-sure about youth players but imagine apart from ones above,
all expire this summer.

Perritt, williams, bolton, martin, o’neill, gilboy.
************************************************** ***********

just to try and get back on thread, all depends on the player and ££££, but - if the price was right - i would offer hughes, barclay and maguire :)

one has experience, one has youth and potential and maguire has shown in patches, he can play :)

still thinking about the rest :)

:) :) :) :)


:) :) :)

Twenty Eight 08-06-2020 09:06

Re: Next season??
 
Can't believe you're still leaving Johnson off your list.

NORTHERNSOUL 08-06-2020 17:20

Re: Next season??
 
Heres the options for the clubs to vote on in the framework vote tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/statu ... 76161?s=19

MikeA 08-06-2020 20:33

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTHERNSOUL (Post 1240885)
Heres the options for the clubs to vote on in the framework vote tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/statu ... 76161?s=19

Sorry but I get 'Page not found'....

Chewbacca 08-06-2020 21:06

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 1240891)
Sorry but I get 'Page not found'....

Just cut and paste the part up to Bayliss and scroll down. Tranmere's marginal error solution saves them and drags a load into the play offs, it seems daft but could get voted in as a lot could gain from it.

Twenty Eight 09-06-2020 13:49

Re: Next season??
 
Subject to Legue One vote to finish season.

Promoted: Coventry City (champions), Rotherham United

Play-offs: Wycombe Wanderers v Fleetwood Town, Oxford United v Portsmouth - dates tbc

Relegated: Tranmere Rovers, Southend United, Bolton Wanderers

NORTHERNSOUL 09-06-2020 15:24

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240905)
Subject to Legue One vote to finish season.

Promoted: Coventry City (champions), Rotherham United

Play-offs: Wycombe Wanderers v Fleetwood Town, Oxford United v Portsmouth - dates tbc

Relegated: Tranmere Rovers, Southend United, Bolton Wanderers

Well when the fixtures come out let's hope the Bolton games don't get scheduled for early on.

Christmas and Easter would look good to me

andyd 09-06-2020 15:25

Re: Next season??
 
Andy Holt just said he thinks it's the right decision to curtail the season and can now get on with contracts and sorting for when ever next season starts. He adds that he doesn't want to see this behind closed doors as football is for fans and their communities and looks forward to a packed Wham on the return I for one wholeheartedly agree with him.

Twenty Eight 09-06-2020 15:26

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTHERNSOUL (Post 1240908)
Well when the fixtures come out let's hope the Bolton games don't get scheduled for early on.

Christmas and Easter would look good to me

Erm .......... they're relegated mate !!!

NORTHERNSOUL 09-06-2020 15:28

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240911)
Erm .......... they're relegated mate !!!

See theyve got me at it now

of course they are

Twenty Eight 09-06-2020 15:29

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240910)
Andy Holt just said he thinks it's the right decision to curtail the season and can now get on with contracts and sorting for when ever next season starts. He adds that he doesn't want to see this behind closed doors as football is for fans and their communities and looks forward to a packed Wham on the return I for one wholeheartedly agree with him.

Boris will decide no one else !

andyd 09-06-2020 15:37

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240915)
Boris will decide no one else !

And if Boris decides to make football at all levels go ahead behind closed doors then he,s wrong, hopefully this distance rule will disappear and we can get the country back earning money again so we can spend, spend and spend again ps:- but not to much on players.

MikeA 09-06-2020 16:05

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240915)
Boris will decide no one else !

I take it you mean Dominic... ;)

AccyMad 09-06-2020 16:22

Re: Next season??
 
Boris can't even decide whether to brush his own hair

NORTHERNSOUL 09-06-2020 16:31

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240915)
Boris will decide no one else !

Do you really think so ?

Seems to me you just kick off a bit and shout very loud and you get what you want.

Boris and Co know they've screwed the whole thing up so I think it's now more a case of just not ****ing anyone else off.

NL supposedly going to ask the FA to ask the gov't to be allowed to play with a 500 socially distanced crowd limit.

My guess is pretty soon they will start creating exceptions where the distance will be cut to the WHO.s 1m rather than 2m i would imagine they'll start with pubs cafes and restaurants but if the same was applied to non-league grounds then crowds of 500 are realistic.

andyd 09-06-2020 16:47

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTHERNSOUL (Post 1240921)
Do you really think so ?

Seems to me you just kick off a bit and shout very loud and you get what you want.

Boris and Co know they've screwed the whole thing up so I think it's now more a case of just not ****ing anyone else off.

NL supposedly going to ask the FA to ask the gov't to be allowed to play with a 500 socially distanced crowd limit.

My guess is pretty soon they will start creating exceptions where the distance will be cut to the WHO.s 1m rather than 2m i would imagine they'll start with pubs cafes and restaurants but if the same was applied to non-league grounds then crowds of 500 are realistic.

New Zealand today officially came out of lockdown keeping borders shut but announced when rugby season starts not sure when but full crowds allowed from the start.

Twenty Eight 09-06-2020 17:00

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTHERNSOUL (Post 1240921)
Do you really think so ?

Seems to me you just kick off a bit and shout very loud and you get what you want.

Boris and Co know they've screwed the whole thing up so I think it's now more a case of just not ****ing anyone else off.

NL supposedly going to ask the FA to ask the gov't to be allowed to play with a 500 socially distanced crowd limit.

My guess is pretty soon they will start creating exceptions where the distance will be cut to the WHO.s 1m rather than 2m i would imagine they'll start with pubs cafes and restaurants but if the same was applied to non-league grounds then crowds of 500 are realistic.

Was that second comment general or about me mate ? Haha !
How do you decide who can attend and who cannot if the limit is say 500 in League One ?
How many season ticket holders do we have ?
Also will need to make provision for away supporters ?

As I said earlier I think season start will be end of September by which time I think we'll be ok to attend.

Chewbacca 09-06-2020 17:23

Re: Next season??
 
Maybe the club will get enough water to the toilets for hand washing when football does return :)

I do not like the way it is going with clubs getting fans to sign up for season tickets with the promise of a virtual pass for games where fans aren't allowed. When it does reopen on a phased basis the standing area which are harder to control will be the last to open.

andyd 09-06-2020 17:50

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1240925)
Maybe the club will get enough water to the toilets for hand washing when football does return :)

I do not like the way it is going with clubs getting fans to sign up for season tickets with the promise of a virtual pass for games where fans aren't allowed. When it does reopen on a phased basis the standing area which are harder to control will be the last to open.

That is why you would think the comman sense approach especially away from the money dictates premiership is to start only when full crowds are allowed, hopefully sooner rather than later but patience is a virtue worth exorcising in this case.

StanleyJosh 09-06-2020 18:13

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240928)
That is why you would think the comman sense approach especially away from the money dictates premiership is to start only when full crowds are allowed, hopefully sooner rather than later but patience is a virtue worth exorcising in this case.

Easy to say that Andy, but what if crowds can’t fill grounds until next year??

I agree with Twenty Eight that I think it will be September/October time when fans can start attending, but what if not?!

andyd 09-06-2020 18:30

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240930)
Easy to say that Andy, but what if crowds can’t fill grounds until next year??

I agree with Twenty Eight that I think it will be September/October time when fans can start attending, but what if not?!

I also think September is dependent on no resurgence of the virus what the government maybe thinking especially after today's announcement regarding all school pupils to return September.As for no crowds and starting behind closed doors we are were we are now no income no point playing although it will be worse another 3 months down the line. This is why I think the EFL rather than the pussyfooting about they have been doing to reach the conclusion today that was pretty much obvious to most fans already they should be concentrating all their efforts into ideas for next season because of the uncertainty.

StanleyJosh 09-06-2020 18:39

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240932)
I also think September is dependent on no resurgence of the virus what the government maybe thinking especially after today's announcement regarding all school pupils to return September.As for no crowds and starting behind closed doors we are were we are now no income no point playing although it will be worse another 3 months down the line. This is why I think the EFL rather than the pussyfooting about they have been doing to reach the conclusion today that was pretty much obvious to most fans already they should be concentrating all their efforts into ideas for next season because of the uncertainty.

EFL haven’t been pussy footing, was up to clubs as prem, champ and League 2 all managed to sort themselves.

So going back to next season not starting until January, how do we pay players until then?

andyd 09-06-2020 18:54

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240933)
EFL haven’t been pussy footing, was up to clubs as prem, champ and League 2 all managed to sort themselves.

So going back to next season not starting until January, how do we pay players until then?

Without crowds no idea in fact some clubs at our level struggle to pay with them I don't know ask the EFL they might have some ideas on out scourced funding but what I think might happen if clubs haven't some clear idea of a time with crowds or other funding they will sure start tearing contracts up and fire players off, they aren't immune from redundancy.

StanleyJosh 09-06-2020 19:00

Re: Next season??
 
If people can sit on a beach for a few hours and social distance, I hope that people will be allowed into a football stadium following same procedures .

andyd 09-06-2020 19:20

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1240935)
If people can sit on a beach for a few hours and social distance, I hope that people will be allowed into a football stadium following same procedures .

Social distancing is quite the norm at somewhere like Morecambe FC but seriously at football stadiums logistical nightmare me thinks.

NORTHERNSOUL 09-06-2020 19:33

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240923)
Was that second comment general or about me mate ? Haha !
How do you decide who can attend and who cannot if the limit is say 500 in League One ?
How many season ticket holders do we have ?
Also will need to make provision for away supporters ?

As I said earlier I think season start will be end of September by which time I think we'll be ok to attend.

Ha Ha No not at all

No, it was a reference to all the u-turns Boris and his lackeys have made the latest being today over schools.

Twenty Eight 09-06-2020 19:44

Re: Next season??
 
This will appall Andyd Josh but you just watch certain clubs now try to steal a march on the market. The player market will be volatile.

andyd 09-06-2020 19:48

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1240938)
This will appall Andyd Josh but you just watch certain clubs now try to steal a march on the market. The player market will be volatile.

Why will it appall me I love an active transfer market some clubs will gamble either with a willing sugar daddies money or with money they haven't got up to them but I,m sure Stanley will be as sensible in the market as always.

StanleyJosh 09-06-2020 19:59

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1240936)
Social distancing is quite the norm at somewhere like Morecambe FC but seriously at football stadiums logistical nightmare me thinks.

How?

monkey hanger 10-06-2020 07:25

Re: Next season??
 
[QUOTE=StanleyJosh;

So going back to next season not starting until January, how do we pay players until then?[/QUOTE]

who actually mentioned this january start in the first place. unless i,m wrong it was some club chairman in the first place. no one looked at the consequences of this. it was right in the middle of the project fear situation anyway. we need to be positive for the season to start with full crowds. i,d go a bit earlier than 28. i,d be looking for early september.

Exile on Spencer St 10-06-2020 08:25

Re: Next season??
 
Could always open up the Wham for political rallies at the Wham every fortnight when there’s a home game on? No need for social distancing, scarves as face masks...just need to find a suitable statue as a focus. Could one of Bob Lord be erected on the Clayton End in time for next season....?:rolleyes:

choirboy 10-06-2020 09:25

Re: Next season??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1240947)
Could always open up the Wham for political rallies at the Wham every fortnight when there’s a home game on? No need for social distancing, scarves as face masks...just need to find a suitable statue as a focus. Could one of Bob Lord be erected on the Clayton End in time for next season....?:rolleyes:

No way Exile!:p
They would damage our beautiful pitch! :eek:
Politicians from all sides ‘digging holes’ for themselves...........:joint::silly::sonic::globwhore:pain30::bangh8:
Statues of (in)famous characters being ‘toppled’..........:hidewall:

How would Buzza cope having to fill in the craters?
:D:king:

smudgie 10-06-2020 12:48

Re: Next season??
 
I have it on good authority that there won't be ANY supporters allowed in to a ground until January 21.....

I fail to see how ANY club below the Championship can start their season behind closed doors. ?


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