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pifco 24-08-2020 14:53

Re: Next season??
 
Surely a choirboy must note that the quoted passage goes on "The sun shines on the righteous and also upon the ungodly"

Lost in Cornwall 25-08-2020 07:29

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My mother's quote was always "The sun shines on the righteous and shrivels em up."

monkey hanger 25-08-2020 07:39

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man who reads sun can stand the heat. man who reads guardian melts away.

andyd 25-08-2020 08:51

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Season ticket news in next 48 hours on official club website.

Chewbacca 25-08-2020 09:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1243830)
man who reads sun can stand the heat. man who reads guardian melts away.


All newspapers are a waste of paper, but i assumed the Sun was just people looking at the pictures mainly and unable to read.

Do they still have 16 year old girls on page 3?

cashman 25-08-2020 10:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1243832)
All newspapers are a waste of paper, but i assumed the Sun was just people looking at the pictures mainly and unable to read.

Do they still have 16 year old girls on page 3?

cant argue with that, as fer page 3 girls have no idea.

VALAIRIAN 25-08-2020 11:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1243831)
Season ticket news in next 48 hours on official club website.

Where have you seen that Andy???

:) :) :)

AccyMad 25-08-2020 12:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1243834)
Where have you seen that Andy???

:) :) :)

Supporters club have put it on Facebook & Twitter Joe, they were at a meeting with Andy & Dave Burgess last night

VALAIRIAN 25-08-2020 15:20

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Cheers :)

maccawozzagod 25-08-2020 15:33

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Back to important debate ... i have no issue regards refunds on games missed etc. Stanley are possibly the cheapest ST around (notable exception at Bradford) and provide excellent Value For Money. MY club need the money so ive no issue with them not shouting from the rooftops that you could claim £50 back. We arent a club who blatantly rip fans off so its more than forgiveable.

I dont normally bother with a season ticket and the club profit from me doing so, but this season im happy to hand over the cash.

maccawozzagod 25-08-2020 15:36

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And while Im here I might as well ask ... could any of the Clayton End dwellers who DONT contribute to the atmosphere please be happy to willingly vacate their spot until normality resumes?

We WILL be raising the roof this season and with numbers fown we need to utilise every voice.


On Stanley On

andyd 25-08-2020 15:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1243845)
Back to important debate ... i have no issue regards refunds on games missed etc. Stanley are possibly the cheapest ST around (notable exception at Bradford) and provide excellent Value For Money. MY club need the money so ive no issue with them not shouting from the rooftops that you could claim £50 back. We arent a club who blatantly rip fans off so its more than forgiveable.

I dont normally bother with a season ticket and the club profit from me doing so, but this season im happy to hand over the cash.

Macca do you think that with capacity going to be around 1500 for the foreseeable we will sell more season tickets or will the I follow option that will probably be on offer keep them around the same?

andyd 25-08-2020 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1243846)
And while Im here I might as well ask ... could any of the Clayton End dwellers who DONT contribute to the atmosphere please be happy to willingly vacate their spot until normality resumes?

We WILL be raising the roof this season and with numbers fown we need to utilise every voice.


On Stanley On

As an ex Clayton ender who moved to the Main Stand when the old hips had to be replaced I will continue to cheer and shout as usual wether I,ll will be able to leave my seat as usual to run about like a man possessed screaming at the ref or liner or celebrating a goal is another thing.

choirboy 26-08-2020 08:04

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When supporters are allowed to attend matches albeit in limited numbers will we be allowed to shout, cheer and sing in support of our players? Research has been done recently comparing singing to shouting and speaking loudly and the results suggested that there was very little difference in the number of droplets expelled into the air around us. Yet singing is still highly restricted and has not been introduced into concert venues or churches.......????
:theband::theband::jimbo::jimbo::jimbo::s_yell: :jimbo::s_yell:

andyd 26-08-2020 08:43

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Ticket news at 12 o, clock on club website.

Exile on Spencer St 26-08-2020 09:05

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Another trip to QPR?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53909293

andyd 26-08-2020 11:06

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Season tickets on sale to present ticket holders from next Tuesday.

AccyMad 26-08-2020 11:14

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Just read article on fishy site, I know these restrictions have to be in place but it all sounds a bit clinical - the atmosphere is certainly going to be affected with just a small number of fans in each stand, 1535 capacity sounds ok but when it's split like it has to be between the 4 stands it doesn't sound so good.
Not criticising at all, the club are doing their utmost but it just makes for sad reading :(

andyd 26-08-2020 11:15

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Capacity set at 1535 untill further notice season ticket holders only using all 4 sides of ground, streaming of behind closed doors games available.

andyd 26-08-2020 11:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1243868)
Just read article on fishy site, I know these restrictions have to be in place but it all sounds a bit clinical - the atmosphere is certainly going to be affected with just a small number of fans in each stand, 1535 capacity sounds ok but when it's split like it has to be between the 4 stands it doesn't sound so good.
Not criticising at all, the club are doing their utmost but it just makes for sad reading :(

I know what you mean but we are better off than a lot last season's average attendance was 2862 take off away average of around 800 and depending on if we sell the 1535 we won't be far off normal home attendance about 500.

cashman 26-08-2020 12:25

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its the way things are, no good bothering can do sod all about things live with it.its better than behind closed doors in my view.

AccyMad 26-08-2020 12:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1243871)
its the way things are, no good bothering can do sod all about things live with it.its better than behind closed doors in my view.

Of course it is & agree, we just have to get on with things but can't help not having the same excitement I usually have at the start of a new season, everything just seems so (for want of a better word) diluted & it's sad

cashman 26-08-2020 12:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1243872)
Of course it is & agree, we just have to get on with things but can't help not having the same excitement I usually have at the start of a new season, everything just seems so (for want of a better word) diluted & it's sad

to be honest di i aint sad, just glad i will be able to get in the wham.

mab 26-08-2020 18:51

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Why start selling on Tuesday 1st when those that work can't get to the ground for renual of ST, wouldn't Monday have been a better day to start for those that are off work with it being a Bank Holiday.. Just saying 😊

maccawozzagod 27-08-2020 06:31

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Mab, its because admin staff had been furloughed and their return date is tuesday

monkey hanger 27-08-2020 07:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1243872)
Of course it is & agree, we just have to get on with things but can't help not having the same excitement I usually have at the start of a new season, everything just seems so (for want of a better word) diluted & it's sad

i,m in the same boat or dinghy as you on this. infact if we did sell the whole capacity as season tickets we will not get the maximum available capacity for hardly any game. know round where i sit there is quite a few that miss all midweek games whilst others have holidays during the season. there will be some fans also that only go to occasional games but due to their financial position are able to buy a season ticket. just hope some of these fans who know they will miss a large number of games give it a swerve this season for fans who may never get the chance to watch a game.

andyd 27-08-2020 08:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1243896)
i,m in the same boat or dinghy as you on this. infact if we did sell the whole capacity as season tickets we will not get the maximum available capacity for hardly any game. know round where i sit there is quite a few that miss all midweek games whilst others have holidays during the season. there will be some fans also that only go to occasional games but due to their financial position are able to buy a season ticket. just hope some of these fans who know they will miss a large number of games give it a swerve this season for fans who may never get the chance to watch a game.

I think the club have probably thought long and hard on this one and to be fair IMHO they have got it spot on its the fairest way loyalty card holders can't renew at present but could invest in a ticket, as for walk on,s that's what they are for whatever reason they choose to do that but they can purchase a ticket if they so wish. You can't please everyone in these uncertain times hopefully full crowds will be back sooner rather than later and hopefully most people will return.

monkey hanger 27-08-2020 10:40

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think the club cannot be criticised at all. its fellow fans that might eventually be. buying a season ticket they,ll hardly use whilst other fans cannot purchase a match day ticket. even if fans tell the club that they cannot attend they will not sell your seat on. told someone at the club in our last promotion season that i was unable to attend a late season home game but was told they could not re sell my seat.

andyd 27-08-2020 10:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1243904)
think the club cannot be criticised at all. its fellow fans that might eventually be. buying a season ticket they,ll hardly use whilst other fans cannot purchase a match day ticket. even if fans tell the club that they cannot attend they will not sell your seat on. told someone at the club in our last promotion season that i was unable to attend a late season home game but was told they could not re sell my seat.

But whose to say that any usual "casual"fan will take up the option of a season ticket, I personally might miss some has could be having another operation but will always buy my ticket even if I couldn't attend my way of contribution to the club.

monkey hanger 27-08-2020 10:53

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[QUOTE=andyd;1243898s hopefully full crowds will be back sooner rather than later and hopefully most people will return.[/QUOTE]

think this could become a problem for all clubs especially the ones having a bad season. attending games is habit forming at times and longer people cannot attend then the bigger the chance of em getting out of the habit and moving on to other interests that nowadays are a plenty. unfortunetly stanley and others have no say in any of this.

cashman 27-08-2020 11:33

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i think many small clubs will suffer with this sadly.:(

cashman 27-08-2020 11:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1243910)
i think many small clubs will suffer with this sadly.:(

the big guns probably will get away with it cos dickheads go anywhere.

Chewbacca 27-08-2020 12:43

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If you can't make the game you should be able to sell your tickets on an exchange to other fans, you get back your pro-rata amount and the club keeps the difference. This would be a win-win, but would be problematic in the seating areas if a households has 2 or more together and wants to sell one it would not work.

With gaps needed between seats teh capacity would not really be known until the deaman is known, as of households buy single seats there need to be more gaps.

andyd 27-08-2020 13:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1243914)
If you can't make the game you should be able to sell your tickets on an exchange to other fans, you get back your pro-rata amount and the club keeps the difference. This would be a win-win, but would be problematic in the seating areas if a households has 2 or more together and wants to sell one it would not work.

With gaps needed between seats teh capacity would not really be known until the deaman is known, as of households buy single seats there need to be more gaps.

I assume unfortunately that season tickets only is probably a lot to do with track and trace the club has all your details so can't really start swapping and changing unfortunately.

Chewbacca 27-08-2020 17:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1243916)
I assume unfortunately that season tickets only is probably a lot to do with track and trace the club has all your details so can't really start swapping and changing unfortunately.

If they are sold through a club controlled site then the club will know who they have gone to.

Unless there are ID checks at turnstiles the club won't stop people going on other's tickets.

monkey hanger 28-08-2020 07:24

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[QUOTE=Chewbacca;1243914]If you can't make the game you should be able to sell your tickets on an exchange to other fans,

no, just let them being available from yhe club to another fan who pays for it. surely its not difficult to get intouch with the club and give em your name, address and seat number to re sell to another fan.

NORTHERNSOUL 28-08-2020 10:09

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Maybe one for Mark

But what was the season ticket sales total last season ?

VALAIRIAN 28-08-2020 10:59

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About 1100 I believe, Loyalty Cards included, somebody will have the exact number :)

:) :) :)

Mr T 29-08-2020 08:50

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As of 30th Sept we had sold 1295 season tickets, this figure includes loyalty card holders.
I can't remember if we sold any half season tickets; hopefully not as they sadly would have been very poor value!!

The whole point of ST's only is to satisfy the requirements of track and trace and to stop away fans attempting to buy any spare tickets.

At today's test event at Brighton stewards will be asking supporters for photo ID to ensure the person who has purchased the ticket is indeed the person using the ticket.

NORTHERNSOUL 30-08-2020 10:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1243979)
As of 30th Sept we had sold 1295 season tickets, this figure includes loyalty card holders.
I can't remember if we sold any half season tickets; hopefully not as they sadly would have been very poor value!!

The whole point of ST's only is to satisfy the requirements of track and trace and to stop away fans attempting to buy any spare tickets.

At today's test event at Brighton stewards will be asking supporters for photo ID to ensure the person who has purchased the ticket is indeed the person using the ticket.

Ok Mark Thanks

So given that figure and the available capacity other than trying to drive actual ST sales whats the thinking behind the decision not to sell loyalty cards.

Surely an online sale with a L.C. is just as secure Covid wise as someone who has bought a season ticket.

And given the available capacity if full ST sales only stay in line with last year do you think the LC will be reintroduced to drive another 2 or 300 sales for each game as i would imagine that money would come in quite useful? and would be a big help to those of us who arent able to comit to attending enough games to make a ST viable.

And now its been clarified that away fans or not is an individual clubs decicion and are not banned under the Covid regulations if season ticket [ and possibly LC sales ] dont take up more than the capacity of the 3 other stands are the club considering allowing away fans to take up the option of buying tickets for the Coppice ?

The reason i ask this is because i feel if half a dozen clubs were to push ahead and do this it would result in us all being able to get back to normal sooner rather than later as it would then just happen naturally as clubs felt comfortable to do so and not take some big decision which we all know the FL would just fudge and procaviate over in case it went wrong and they were to get the blame.

Chewbacca 30-08-2020 12:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTHERNSOUL (Post 1244013)
Ok Mark Thanks

So given that figure and the available capacity other than trying to drive actual ST sales whats the thinking behind the decision not to sell loyalty cards.

Surely an online sale with a L.C. is just as secure Covid wise as someone who has bought a season ticket.

And given the available capacity if full ST sales only stay in line with last year do you think the LC will be reintroduced to drive another 2 or 300 sales for each game as i would imagine that money would come in quite useful? and would be a big help to those of us who arent able to comit to attending enough games to make a ST viable.

And now its been clarified that away fans or not is an individual clubs decicion and are not banned under the Covid regulations if season ticket [ and possibly LC sales ] dont take up more than the capacity of the 3 other stands are the club considering allowing away fans to take up the option of buying tickets for the Coppice ?

The reason i ask this is because i feel if half a dozen clubs were to push ahead and do this it would result in us all being able to get back to normal sooner rather than later as it would then just happen naturally as clubs felt comfortable to do so and not take some big decision which we all know the FL would just fudge and procaviate over in case it went wrong and they were to get the blame.

If Stabley don't sell out, which there is a very good chance of, a section of the Whinney Hill would be more feasible for away fans - however why not have the extra capacity for Loyalty Card holders who are easier to track and trace?

Hopefully all this is short term, but I see it going on until after we see how the UK copes with COVID-19 in early winter months.

NORTHERNSOUL 01-09-2020 09:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1244019)
If Stabley don't sell out, which there is a very good chance of, a section of the Whinney Hill would be more feasible for away fans - however why not have the extra capacity for Loyalty Card holders who are easier to track and trace?

Hopefully all this is short term, but I see it going on until after we see how the UK copes with COVID-19 in early winter months.

Strong rumours now [ and some evidence from within various clubs ] that clubs need to do a test event at 15% of capacity and if no problems can then move on to stage one [ 20 to 30% ] and after one succesfull game at that stage can move on to the next one at 50% including sales to non season ticket holders.

monkey hanger 02-09-2020 07:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTHERNSOUL (Post 1244043)
Strong rumours now [ and some evidence from within various clubs ] that clubs need to do a test event at 15% of capacity and if no problems can then move on to stage one [ 20 to 30% ] and after one succesfull game at that stage can move on to the next one at 50% including sales to non season ticket holders.

sounds a good idea to me. a lot of it is up to the fans who attend games to behave themselves and follow all the club rules no matter how stupid or pointless they feel about them. clubs can do so much but at the end of the day its the fans who will make the decision on the percentages we can allow in. a lot who decide to behave as dickheads would quickly close any ground.

Exile on Spencer St 03-09-2020 17:02

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The slim chance of any money filtering down from the Prawn (Sandwich) League to help out Leagues 1 and 2 may have just got even slimmer...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54014827

andyd 03-09-2020 17:29

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Tomorrow's game on IFollow will be split financially down the middle between Burton and Stanley, don't know if this is because it's a cup game or not because I presume league games the majority will go to the home side. So if 5000 subscribe for tomorrow that's £25000 each.

Chewbacca 03-09-2020 20:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1244115)
Tomorrow's game on IFollow will be split financially down the middle between Burton and Stanley, don't know if this is because it's a cup game or not because I presume league games the majority will go to the home side. So if 5000 subscribe for tomorrow that's £25000 each.

They got 1,500 last season in Rnd 2 v Morecambe with ticket prices blended average coming lower than £10. 1000 sales means around 2k watching, i seriously doubt there will be more than 1000 sales.

NORTHERNSOUL 04-09-2020 15:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1244115)
Tomorrow's game on IFollow will be split financially down the middle between Burton and Stanley, don't know if this is because it's a cup game or not because I presume league games the majority will go to the home side. So if 5000 subscribe for tomorrow that's £25000 each.

Err Not Quite

After you take off the VAT, the part that goes to the company who run the service for the FL, a small cut to the FL themselves and the cost of certain services that the clubs themselves pay for out of their cut and the clubs are left with just about 50% or in other words about a fiver.

So taking the two estmates people have made the income will be somewhere between £12500 on 5k of sales and just £2500 on a thousand hardly the money spinner some people were hoping especially when you consider the most likley thousand people to pay to watch a league game will for the first few at least be getting it for free as part of their season ticket package.

And yes this is a cup game so its split down the middle now the FL say an amicable arrangement was reached to split the league game sales more evenly but i would be pretty sure that isnt a 50/50 split or we would have heard the winging from the SOL and Fratton Park weeks ago.

MikeA 09-09-2020 09:46

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Cambridge United trialling a fans' return:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54077467

Four goals for Tariq?

Exile on Spencer St 09-09-2020 12:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 1244382)
Cambridge United trialling a fans' return:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54077467

Four goals for Tariq?

Usual accurate reporting from the BBC! :rolleyes:

VALAIRIAN 25-09-2020 07:44

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Some good news on the horizon - hopefully.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54284737


:) :) :)

cashman 25-09-2020 08:30

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lets hope so.

monkey hanger 25-09-2020 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1244998)
Some good news on the horizon - hopefully.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54284737


:) :) :)

well it is financially anyway.

andyd 16-10-2020 07:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1245000)
well it is financially anyway.

3 weeks later no nearer in fact probably further away clubs teetering.


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