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Hope so, but what's the betting it will be in the non-spectatable early part of the season, if things go that way, on the grounds that 150 of us won't be missed one way or the other? :rolleyes:

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its nothing new though. this has been going on for 25 years but people still lap everything up from these clubs.

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Nor other clubs like ours.

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I'm hoping you mean big clubs not interested in clubs like ours...
rather than a club like us not interested in fans??

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I do sorry

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Unfortunately football is a business, and ultimately every club is a 'competitor'

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competing is one thing competing fairly is another.

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unless you are a name club below the championship there is nothing we or the club can really do about it. can see it financially getting worse than better. on the clubs i do not think stanley is for everybody but neither are manchester united.

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Yes agreed it is a business and every club should be seen to be making a profit, we all know that hasn't been the case pre - Covid but with what is happening and an uncertain way ahead clubs should aim for a sensible business plan moving forward.

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Big job for David Dunn good luck to him new Barrow manager.

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This coming Saturday it will be 19 weeks since Stanley and most other side's kicked a ball and still no sign of any financial aid coming from the Premiership, now with the whisperings of moving back to training and starting dates with all the new measures to have in place to be Covid secure surely someone somewhere must be pressurising those in charge of purse strings to help out the survival of lower league football.

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Dream on Andy.

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why would the Prem give out financial aid??

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A fairer share of the £1,913 million per annum TV deal then if you think the present deal is fair and helps the rest of football and it's communities that the clubs try to support well fine.

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Any better suggestion,s?

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turn the clubhouse into a theater and we,ll have cracked it.

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Like Tesco helps out smaller convenience shops?

Alot of the revenue comes from abroad watching Premier League etc.
Can't see Asia for example paying money to watch Accrington vs Oxford for example
iFollow hasn't been a huge success financially for us....

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Tesco run their business for profit not to pay their employees wages beyond their means, TV money should be shared out more fairly not so some so over rated players can earn obscene amounts of money and not give a toss about the rest.

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Players are paid obscene amounts because that is the money they are generating.
When Juventus spent £80 million on Ronaldo - they made that money back in shirt sales in less than a month.

What would you suggest as a solution??

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None at all.
However you need to get away from Fantasy Island if you think the Premiership is coming to anyone's rescue.

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Without a product you don't earn the capital.
Without stars players clubs wont get paid.
Why does it worry you what a player is paid ?
If the wage bill is 90% of turnover why is that a problem ?

I'm sure the TV Companies will be clamouring to show Accy v Oxford on a Tuesday night and pay a fortune to do so.

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Unfortunately, the fact that it doesn't help anybody outside the elite doesn't mean anything's going to change any time soon. The deal is between the PL and the TV companies, neither of whom give a hoot.

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Why give any of the money then it's a pittance what they hand down are we beggars waiting for the annual pittance why not go the whole hog don't give anything.

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Doesn't worry me one bit never watch the premiership Accy don't overpay I,m happy with that , seem to remember a few last season moaning we weren't ambitious enough, rather they kept all the TV money for themselves then we would be self reliant.

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EFL clubs to run within their means and stop moaning when they hit trouble.

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Colchester part company with John Mcgreal saying they need a new direction amongst unprecedented challenges and unprecedented opportunity,s as in financial challengeing times they are going to use more academy players, could be a model for plenty of clubs at our level and I,m for one hopefully going to see lots of youngsters given opportunity,s.

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[QUOTE=StanleyJosh;1241963]Players are paid obscene amounts because that is the money they are generating.

and losing millions of pounds a year trying to keep up with those at the top or actually just avoiding relegation every season. even when they fail these clubs then get the payment for failure.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1241989]Well said Sanchez at United springs to mind £500,000 a week for doing sod all plus what is agent milked of the gravy train, now City with their well paid lawyers winning the case against UEFA the Shieks and other foreign billionaires can go ahead and spend what they want securing streaming rights and other revenues and caring nothing about fans that watch live, they obviously don't need them.

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Easy to say 'use academy' players - what happens to the whole heap of players out of contract?
Supply and demand etc...

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And cost.

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27th July to 5th October transfer window confirmed with an additional 2 weeks for domestic transfers.

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Meeting apparently a week Friday Mr. T., could maybe confirm, about start date and a vote on it general consensus September 12th with 25 to 50% crowds no away fans this year at least.

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PS., also nobody seems clear on wether terraces will be allowed to be used.

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New 5 substitute ruling to be extended for next season initially so 9 subs on the bench brought in for players welfare due to compressing more games into a shortened season, will probably be of benefit to clubs with bigger squads, not totally sure on ruling but bench and use of subs as to include so many from academy,s. Also talk of keeping the new water break time out,s.

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No meeting planned at present

Early September start being mentioned, but no word of crowds returning

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Thanks.

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Would a no crowds start go down ok with the powers that be at Stanley Mr.T. or would limited be obviously a preferred option.

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Ronaldo is a bit of a one off for every Ronaldo there will be loads not generating any money back or very little take Sanchez at United among many others I could mention.

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With teams apparently getting ready to train for a season to start possibility in September with the prospect of no or little crowds to start no away fans and with the current list especially in the north west of spikes and possible local lockdowns please what has changed that made the majority of league 1 and 2 chairman voting against playing with little or no income less than 4 months ago. Is there a possibility of a streaming or TV deal being discussed to show every game in the country live at 3.00 pm or evening kick off,s, with a guaranteed income for the home clubs just a thought.

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think clubs and fans could live with that if it was say for the first two home and first two away games of the season. as for the need of extra subs due to fixture congestion moving the end of the season back 4 weeks could help this.

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England to play Wales in friendly at Wembley on the 8th., October interestingly behind closed doors not very encouraging for the return of any significant crowds returning for start of season.

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Isn't that exactly what i follow does ??
They hold the contract. Why would they allow a competitor in ?

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Was the longest serving League Two manager, and got them into the playoffs before his layoff. Strange reward

:theband::theband::theband:

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[QUOTE=Div3North;1242067]Was the longest serving League Two manager, and got them into the playoffs before his layoff. Strange reward

they want the club to be run in a different way and maybe john mcgreal is not seen by them as the man to do this. could be a manager who likes experiance and not youth in his side.

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I believe a number of league 1 clubs aren't happy about a potential 12th September start due to the expensive charge of the Covid testing upto £145 a person at present, they are hoping the guidelines might ease before then or the cost because without crowds for the majority nothing has changed.

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At the minute any EFL club can return to Stage 1 training; ie no contact without any testing.
However all involved would no longer qualify for furlough; as effectively the employee would be returning to his normal work duties

Private Covid tests via EFL are £125 per test

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Thanks for that any plans on Accy,s training return or will it be when season is officially confirmed as to a start date.

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Currently no plans;

Waiting on EFL updates

Expect something this week

We were working towards a start behind closed doors; but the DCMS information last week I suspect has changed things

Personnel thoughts only!!

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I,m in agreement with you on that behind closed doors no good for anyone reduced capacity is bad enough but will have to start somewhere.

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If spectators are going to be allowed to some extent in October, I would have thought it sensible for Leagues 1 & 2 to start then and finish the season by the end of May, probably binning the Trophy for a year to reduce the pressure a bit. I just can't see how we can afford the costs of playing matches without some income from the gate.

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doubt a couple of home and away games will bankrupt any club. it would reduce mid week games where unless its a localish derby game the gates are well down on a saturday fixture. its not just with stanley but every club at our level have the problem in getting fans in for tuesday or wednesday night games especially in colder weather.

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Granted, but 1200 on a Tuesday in December beats no-one on a Saturday in September ......

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I believe there are quite a few clubs against starting without crowds of any kind Accy will probably be one of them, whoever does the fixture list has their work cut out this time, with no away fans for the foreseeable Derby games could be a problem keeping opposition fans away. Cup competition,s could be axed or altered as without away fans a "big" tie loses it,s profitability.

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Update on current situation for you all.....

https://onstanleyon.com/2020/07/22/t...s-at-the-wham/

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Good read and thanks to those involved pretty much what I was expecting 33% if it happens is obviously better than 25%, I think the toughest thing to implement not just for Stanley are the proposed staggered entry and exit times especially in the evening. Are you say notified 2 to 2-15 for example what happens if you can,t stick to that?

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Staggered entry times to ensure limited congregation at turnstiles etc.
Take it or leave it.

The club are being as flexible as they possibly can, if people won’t adapt or aren’t happy about set time entrants. not being seated with friends etc then tough titties.

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Charming only asking a lot with that attitude will be taking the tit.

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If people can’t manage turning up at a set time, I wouldn’t have much hope they would following procedures inside the ground.

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I think I made a very crucial point not everyone is single and can spend all day at a football club people have various reasons for wanting specific times for arriving and leaving, disabled, long distance travel stuck in a jam, kids to drag along I could go on but just a suggestion that this is one area that needs to be carefully looked at and not just randomly handed out and tough if it doesn't suit. Not saying it's easy but it is workable with a bit of thought about personal needs.

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1100 people to try and satisfy.....
I’m 100% sure provisions will be made for suitable reasons.

In fact, just seen. DB confirmed not set times. Turn up when you want. Just turnstiles will be periodically cleaned so closed for 5-10 mins.

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Comman sense prevails good it usually works in the long run, just hope it runs as smoothly as possible can,t be easy let's get a date now and get the season tickets sold then we can talk football and not Covid c---

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They can't use turnstiles, needs to be contactless scanning on entry and and bigger entrance.

If you shut the turnstile for 5-10 mins where will the queue start I wonder with social distancing? Accy Vic or the Greyhound?

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So we'll have the pleasure of the company of Hull, Charlton & our friends from Wigan next season - will relegation for the Latics be enough for Mr. Cook to move on to somewhere he thinks the grass is greener?

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Blimey !
Could be Wigan Sheffield Wednesday and Hull next season ............

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Well, it's Wigan (or, possibly, Charlton), Hull and Barnsley who are coming down to join us next season.

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Hold your horses Di it could be Sheffield Wednesday.

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Barnsley kept themselves up at the last minute with a win at Brentford - Charlton, Hull & Wigan coming to join us

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Some big teams joining us next season adding to an already stacked league. Think this will be the toughest but most fun campaign yet. Plus some
good sides coming up from league 2 as well. It’s great we’ll be playing Sunderland once again too. UP THE STANLEY!

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Barnsley are safe mate.

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Can't see it tbh, now that the Championship season has officially ended surely any points deduction would be implemented next season?

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If Wigan win their appeal who goes down then Barnsley?, couldn't make it up oh sorry it's the EFL doing what it does best making a pig's ear of it all.

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The only winner in the Wigan fiasco is the ex owner who repuditaly bet his £40 million takeover money on relegation fit and proper take over test needs throwing out and replaced with something that works.

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i would do anything to keep wigan up due to that bet even if its decided that by doing it makes em a special case. this dodgy owner situation cannot be allowed to continue and if the football authorities cannot sort it out then we should have government involvement in the situation.

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Shrewsbury town have suggested that if the season is starting on September 12th play the early rounds of the Carabo and leasing trophy games first and start the league's in October when hopefully crowds do get the go ahead.

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If Wigan's appeal is upheld on 31 July then stand by for carnage.
Barnsley would then go down but have their court papers ready to serve alleging Sheffield Wednesday should go down as any points deduction should apply this season ........ given they were charged in November 2019.
Same applies to Derby County.
Then Sheffield Wednesday also have their court papers ready to appeal.

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Like I said a pig's ear is what the EFL have done before the final game was played there should have been a clear outcome regarding all those involved, how can Barnsley plan a budget in this scenario. Football needs a big wake up call as people are growing weary of their incompetence.

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Hull city dropping into league 1 another club were fans have deserted them in droves due to their hatred of the Egyptian owner Allam, they say he just bleeds money out of the club investing nothing wouldn't surprise me if they dropped right through to league 2.

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Won't happen.
Already making moves for decent players - Kieran Sadlier from Doncaster might be one. Good player.
Hull's fans have always been Leeds fans at heart.

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Easily haha !
No change.
Unless they lose any of the home grown talent that's come through they will spend nothing whichever league they're in.
Love their approach of blooding the kids sink or swim.
Fantastic Academy set up.

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more like hull fans have more interest in Hull RLFC and Hull Kingston Rovers.

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those people who are either not interested in football or dislike it will be having a right old laugh about this if they read it. talking about putting the game into disrepute, they have invented that.

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Maybe but there are loads of Hull fans that will follow Leeds next season for sure.

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They aren't Hull fans they are fans of the premiership same as at Blackburn when they were in it their gates plummeted from an average around 25500 to 13000 says it all to me.

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It's a protest move mate.
Similar to Blackpool.
They are Hull fans and when / if the club ownership changes they will be back.

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Same excuse used at Blackburn they picked on Venky,s who aren't bad owners quite good actually, protest and the like just won't admit they watch top flight or nothing.

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well if yeh think venkys aint bad i give up andy.

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September 12th set as league restart.
Possibility of cup game beforehand.

Understand we have pencilled in a few friendly's beforehand too.

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Last I heard they had invested best part of £190 million not run off or bet on them being relegated so better than most.

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Play offs at the end of May, are we aiming for them, or going straight up???

I know what Cashy will say ;)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53530479

:) :) :)

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So I follow it will be for home games as well until mid October if the crowds back gets the go ahead possibility depending on how the fixture,s work out missing 4 maybe 5 games at home live.

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Do not like the bit about paying for an amount of games......

https://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/...21-start-date/

For the sake of £20/30 I would rather just pay for a full season ticket...

Things starting - slowly - to move in the right direction :)

:) :) :)

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Season tickets to go on sale as soon as club is informed about when fans allowed in, when this is known prices will be adjusted if needed to match how many games fans allowed in, those who have already purchased will receive a relevant refund if necessary well done Stanley in keeping us informed.

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Beat me to it.

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Wow.
Foreign owners never seen at the club and openly criticised by many many people in the game and you think they’re good owners ?
Wow

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Only just mate :)

:) :) :)

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Owen Oysten rarely missed a game but didn't miss taking the pounds home, Mike Ashley went to a lot of games in his team shirt brilliant fan just saying if the Venky,s walked tomorrow Rovers would be in the proverbial ----.

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at the end of the day when venky,s are seen as decent owners it does show how bad football finance is nowadays. they may not be the worst and that shows the problem the game is in.

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[QUOTE=VALAIRIAN;1242374]Do not like the bit about paying for an amount of games......

https://www.accringtonstanley.co.uk/...21-start-date/

For the sake of £20/30 I would rather just pay for a full season ticket...

you might, but there will be plenty of others who would blow a gasket at having to pay the same price for 23 games if say only 20 are available to attend. think the club has got it spot on for me.

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yeh can say that about most clubs if owners walked.:rolleyes:

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Cashy,
And guess who put them in the proverbial ?
Can't believe Andyd could describe them as good owners.