Has Coleman lost the dressing room? - Page 3

shakermaker · 02-09-2007, 19:48

The club should've been sold when we won the league.
It was the prime time to sell & we missed it.
Now I fear we're up the creek without a paddle.

The only hope we do have, in my opinion, lies with Coleman & Bell. If they can get the tactics right, we have the ability in our squad to play some very good football and attract the fans that came out to see us last term and didn't come back because of the lack of a roof or whatever.
The commercial side of the club have to get their act in gear aswell. Instead of just appealing to the 'suits' - APPEAL TO JOE PUBLIC. Too many golden opportunities with the media have been squandered. As Tin Monkey and others have said for ages - the website is wasted!

Please, someone get some nouse before we lose our club again.

Wynonie Harris · 02-09-2007, 20:28

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

The club should've been sold when we won the league.
It was the prime time to sell & we missed it.
Now I fear we're up the creek without a paddle.

Not necessarily. Eric should put the club up for sale and see what turns up.

Bagpuss · 02-09-2007, 20:35

As Jeff and few others have said before Eric said if we ever get into the Football League he would sell up because he hadn't got enough cash to keep us there, why didn't he keep his word because there was a least one person who wanted the club, I also feel the boat has been missed because IMHO he wanted a season as the big man as a football league chairman, this broken promise could prove to be the thing that takes us back to non league obscurity.

Wynonie Harris · 02-09-2007, 20:41

Maybe, but if this person wanted the club then, they still do now??

TheLedge · 02-09-2007, 20:52

Wynonie has hit the nail squarely on the head. ASFC is not set up for league football, by that I mean that without substantial outside investment the club cannot sustain playing league football.

John Coleman has done a tremendous job for the club but I agree he has probably take things as far as he can. That is no slight on him though, nobody could do anything better under these circumstances.

The team is sadly lacking in so many areas, every department is a hotch potch of has-beens and never will be's IMO. What is he to do though when he doesnt have the finance to attract better players to the club?

If it weren't for John Coleman and the players that he brought to the club then League Football wouldn't even be a consideration.

I wouldn't blame the guy for walking away to be honest. If people are going to be so ridiculous as to question the man after the miracles he has worked then he really is fighting a losing battle.

Bagpuss · 02-09-2007, 21:01

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Originally Posted by TheLedge

If people are going to be so ridiculous as to question the man after the miracles he has worked then he really is fighting a losing battle.

Are you saying we should go to the fans forum on Wednesday and not ask any questions but just congratulate him for doing a good job?
I'm sorry but IMHO there are a few things which are not right on the pitch which if he can answer good on him.

Tin Monkey · 02-09-2007, 21:01

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Originally Posted by TheLedge

I wouldn't blame the guy for walking away to be honest.

It's funny, but somebody else said that to me yesterday.

Bagpuss · 02-09-2007, 21:06

TheLedge are you anyone we know in disguise???

TheLedge · 02-09-2007, 21:34

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Are you saying we should go to the fans forum on Wednesday and not ask any questions but just congratulate him for doing a good job?
I'm sorry but IMHO there are a few things which are not right on the pitch which if he can answer good on him.

I'm not saying he is beyond questioning but you have to be realistic. Look at what he has done for the club, the players he brought to Accrington that were sold for a small fortune that have allowed the club to not only progress but continue to operate without too much worry.

Getting the club out of the conference was a major achievement in itself, keeping them in the League last year minus the two best players of the previous season was nothing short of miraculous.

I think what I am trying to say is it's a trust thing. The guy should have done enough to more than earn every Stanley fans trust and I think people shouldn't forget that. Trust him and trust that he is doing the very best he can under the circumstances.

It is plain for everyone to see what the team is lacking but I have no doubt whatsoever that John Coleman realises that too. What can he do though if the club don't have the funds to attract the type of players that are needed?

The worst thing supporters can do at times of adversity is to break ranks and turn on their own.

maccawozzagod · 02-09-2007, 21:40

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Originally Posted by TheLedge

The worst thing supporters can do at times of adversity is to break ranks and turn on their own.

100% agreed

cmonstanley · 02-09-2007, 21:46

i think john has took us the promised land but should admit he needs a little help from an experienced coach maybe somebody from the outside should come and have look.sometimes its better somebody from the outside to see whats going wrong.it dont mean your a bad manager if you ask for a little help it just means your diverse and honest

Bagpuss · 02-09-2007, 21:55

I'm not saying Coley should go far from it but he has left himself open for critisism with his gamble on McEvilly, This gamble has not worked so before morale goes any lower and the on field arguements turn into more get rid of him now, McEvilly is not good for Stanley so dump him Mr Coleman before he dumps you.

lancsdave · 02-09-2007, 22:11

I doubt if anyone can really tell if Coleman has reached his managerial limit or not. You can't expect any manager to the job without some funds available to him.

Wynonie Harris · 02-09-2007, 22:13

Yep, Coley has shot himself in the foot somewhat over the McEvilly scenario. However, overall, he has been nothing short of a miracle worker for Stanley. The worrying thing is, that without a major investment in the club, he will have an even smaller budget to work with next season, as the money will be swallowed up by the large-scale ground improvements required by the football league plus the shortfall on operating costs caused by inadequate gates. And I doubt that even he can continue to pull rabbits out of hats in those circumstances.

cmonstanley · 02-09-2007, 22:13

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

I doubt if anyone can really tell if Coleman has reached his managerial limit or not. You can't expect any manager to the job without some funds available to him.

true but i think we should get a top coach to come in and guide john where hes going wrong ......