Stanley Under Investigation - Page 9

Kiwi John · 10-03-2007, 02:51

Can anyone recall the FA/League laying similar or other serious charges against a club THEN withdrawing them?

[email protected] · 10-03-2007, 08:20

This seems to be a bit like the Bury case when Bury got permission off the club to play him in the FA cup, but didn't send the permission to the FA.

I've no doubt the club will be found guilty of some technicality otherwise they would'nt have charged us.

Hoping for the best, a fine, reprimand but fearing the loss of points!

bullmac · 10-03-2007, 08:34

Hope you get out of this one guys,league status should be decided on the pitch & not because of an administrative error.
Best of luck.

Whalley Red · 10-03-2007, 09:45

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Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy

3. (a) Trainees

(v) A registered Trainee may play for another Club subject to the written approval of the Club for which the Trainee is registered. A copy of the written permission must be received by The Association, the league or combination of which the Club is a member, the Trainee and the Club for which the Trainee is to play. A Club may not play more than two such Trainees in any match at first team level. (source www.thefa.com)

For those who aren't in the know, there is no rule C3 (b) (v) but the above is Rule C3 (a) (v).
However, if PNE are referring to the scholarship section, then the above section (v) still applies except change the words registered trainee for any player who is registered for a scholarship. Further bits where it refers to a trainee is changed to player. Any more thoughts?

Perhaps the FA are saying they never got the relevant paperwork from PNE

"A copy of the written permission ..." presumably means that it was Stanley's responsibility to forward the written permission to the FA, not PNE's ... as in the Bury case.

Haggis316 · 10-03-2007, 11:21

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Originally Posted by Whalley Red

"A copy of the written permission ..." presumably means that it was Stanley's responsibility to forward the written permission to the FA, not PNE's ... as in the Bury case.

It says that a copy of the permission must be received by the FA the Football League the player and Stanley ie passive tense. That suggests that it was Preston's responsibility to procure that it was.

However I also read this to mean that both Preston and Stanley had to ensure that the rule had been complied with before either Preston or Stanley could take advantage of this derogation to the general principle against trainees playing for third party clubs.

If such be the case its a shame that the fourth highest scorers in the league have that status threatened amongst other things because we borrowed someone else's trainee striker. I had thought it was the defence that was the problem!

maccawozzagod · 11-03-2007, 02:26

fa.com suspensions list http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplin...dedPlayers.htm
has Andrew Proctor still listed to serve 3 games for his sending off against Darlington in August he missed the Barnet home game, the Stockport away game then the Forest game in the cup. He was then an unused sub against Rochdale at home which we drew 1-1. Do Carling Cup games count? If not then we would lose the point gained in this match.

Kiwi John · 11-03-2007, 02:30

Can't fathom why the club won't tell us who the second player is, unless......

maccawozzagod · 11-03-2007, 02:34

right, it really annoys me that they aren't saying anything..... I am assuming now that we are goosed and going down regardless because the team are playing kack and we are going to lose some points.

If they told us what we are facing then at least we could all start doing the maths and working out how we claw back a ten point deficit or whatever. The only thing I can think of is that it is a massive amount of points and if they publicise that then the crowds wont come because they know we are doomed.

Absolute crap, let us know and then we can stare adversity in the face and sing em home anyway! If they know, and they must, then they should tell us. They tell the fans absolutely nowt here and it stinks.

Kiwi John · 11-03-2007, 02:39

What you say makes sense 'O leader of the faithful'.
I kinda think Rob Heys may be abit relieved that we lost as it deflects the heat away from him a little.

Haggis316 · 11-03-2007, 08:29

Since we are being kept in the dark about the further allegations we can only fear a near terminal points deduction.

Why else would Coley say Torquay is a must not lose game?

If our stint in the League is all but over already lets be knowing it - otherwise an already terrible situation is just being compounded. The club may be storing up more trouble with the supporters when they find out things as to the extent of the problem they might have been told earlier.

Certainly the uncertainty as to the exact nature and extent of the club's exposure is doing no one any good. A lot of people care deeply about this club - it is woven into the fabric of their lives.

Bagpuss · 11-03-2007, 08:51

One thing for certain is when the facts are known we won't be finding out the truth from the fishy site first.

[email protected] · 11-03-2007, 09:05

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

right, it really annoys me that they aren't saying anything..... I am assuming now that we are goosed and going down regardless because the team are playing kack and we are going to lose some points.

If they told us what we are facing then at least we could all start doing the maths and working out how we claw back a ten point deficit or whatever. The only thing I can think of is that it is a massive amount of points and if they publicise that then the crowds wont come because they know we are doomed.

Absolute crap, let us know and then we can stare adversity in the face and sing em home anyway! If they know, and they must, then they should tell us. They tell the fans absolutely nowt here and it stinks.

Macca, invite someone from the club to come to the osc 'do' Sunday night, then you could jump him and threaten to beat him to a pulmp until they tell you.
You could plead 'provocation' it's certainly doing your scope in!

timpalty · 11-03-2007, 12:44

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Originally Posted by K.S.H

Can we not blame Preston for releasing him to us, surely a team of their stature should have known

Hahaha!! This is the best news i've heard for years!! Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch! Suddenly the team who owned the player are to blame..?!? Thats a dramatic change from this time last season.....!!! Enjoy your last few months in the league, it'll be another 45yrs till your back there you tinpot jokers

Red Lady · 11-03-2007, 13:04

You sound like a fool. Don't be 2 sure about anything yet. I have supported Stanley for 16 yrs and been through a lot of different ups and downs. Whatever happens I will b a Stanley fan till I die.

Lancashire Stan · 11-03-2007, 14:26

If you look at the smiley timpalty you will see this was a sarcastic comment.
It was a swipe at the pathetic excuses by the idiots last year.