Living off the fat of the land. - Page 9

garinda · 31-01-2009, 09:50

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Originally Posted by jaysay

No it wasn't, its a separate organisation Xes being paid by the local government association not HBC

Did he tell you that yesterday as well, or is he sat on your knee as you type?

Bernard Dawson · 31-01-2009, 09:51

Can you point to any benefits that have come Hyndburn's way from previous trips to London.

garinda · 31-01-2009, 10:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Quite a sweeping statement for your first post, One trip at the behest of the Prime Minister hardly seems extravagant at a cost of £90 for the benefit of the Borough

He was accompanied by his Chief Executive, according to the press, and one would presume they would also quite rightly be eligible to transportation expenses to London, so the cost to Hyndburn for being at the launch of Pennine Lancashire would be a lot more than £90.

As stated earlier, I've been to many afternoon meeting or matinee theatre trips to London, and returned home the same day.

I wonder what time the launch took place, and what benefits we can actually expect by having two representatives from the borough at this launch?

I hope the nibbles in Downing Street were worth it.

jaysay · 31-01-2009, 10:10

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Originally Posted by garinda

He was accompanied by his Chief Executive, according to the press, and one would presume they would also quite rightly be eligible to transportation expenses to London, so the cost to Hyndburn for being at the launch of Pennine Lancashire would be a lot more than £90.

As stated earlier, I've been to many afternoon meeting or matinee theatre trips to London, and returned home the same day.

I wonder what time the launch took place, and what benefits we can actually expect by having two representatives from the borough at this launch?

I hope the nibbles in Downing Street were worth it.

Again your mouth wash ain't making it Rindi

garinda · 31-01-2009, 10:15

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Again your mouth wash ain't making it Rindi

I'm sorry I don't understand that comment any better today, than when you posted the same thing yesterday.

I prefer plain speaking.

A spade's a spade in my book, and I don't find it necessary to speak in riddles.

jaysay · 31-01-2009, 10:44

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Originally Posted by garinda

I'm sorry I don't understand that comment any better today, than when you posted the same thing yesterday.

I prefer plain speaking.

A spade's a spade in my book, and I don't find it necessary to speak in riddles.

Your talking b******S that plain enough for ya

garinda · 31-01-2009, 10:51

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Your talking b******S that plain enough for ya

Oh I see now.

You don't agree with what I've posted, but can't come up with a counter argument in defence, so descend to insults.

katex · 31-01-2009, 12:11

See you have got your letter on your views on this issue printed in the Observer Garinda !

Well done for that ... even though I don't agree ...

Sorry you didn't win the free meal at the Calder; this went to someone praising the cleanliness of the men's toilets in the Arndale ...

Bernard Dawson · 31-01-2009, 12:54

Surely the whole point of this thread is to question whether or not the Ratepayers of Hyndburn and getting value for money. Katex its all of us ratepayers who are paying for these trips.

katex · 31-01-2009, 13:30

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Originally Posted by Robert Owen

Surely the whole point of this thread is to question whether or not the Ratepayers of Hyndburn and getting value for money. Katex its all of us ratepayers who are paying for these trips.

Absolutely Robert ... no argument there at all. Just as an experienced traveller to London on many occasions, could see the need to increase this allowance, for reasons I have already stated ..

andrewb · 31-01-2009, 13:31

Do the council publish individual councillors expenses per chance? If so, where?

jaysay · 31-01-2009, 13:59

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Do the council publish individual councillors expenses per chance? If so, where?

They are published ever year in the Observer Andrew and the Telegraph

jaysay · 31-01-2009, 14:06

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Originally Posted by garinda

Oh I see now.

You don't agree with what I've posted, but can't come up with a counter argument in defence, so descend to insults.

Don't matter what I say, the bottom line is you detest PB, or anything he does, you really should throw your hat in the ring with Jones get a seat on the Council then you can at least do something constructive, mind you getting a seat on the council at the moment might be just a little hard, unless that is you tern to a shade of blue. And my last post wasn't an insult, if it was meant to be an insult I wouldn't have used smileys

garinda · 31-01-2009, 16:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Don't matter what I say, the bottom line is you detest PB, or anything he does, you really should throw your hat in the ring with Jones get a seat on the Council then you can at least do something constructive, mind you getting a seat on the council at the moment might be just a little hard, unless that is you tern to a shade of blue. And my last post wasn't an insult, if it was meant to be an insult I wouldn't have used smileys

Is selective/blinkered reading common to all Conservatives, or just yourself and Andrewb?

I don't detest anyone, and certainly not because of someone's political views.

If you'd care to re-read post 80 of this thread, you'd might see that I'd said some very positive, and nice things about Peter Britcliffe. Just as I have in the past when I think he's come up with something worthwhile. For example the Floral Market Town/ flower towers, how well the park looked for the summer concert, etc.

It does become very tiresome when the Conservative party faithful take every criticism as a personal attack. The whole forum knows that the Tory clique on Accy Web would be filled with glee if the criticism had been aimed at someone of another political party. The fact is I'd criticise anyone who had voted for these increases at the present time.

You even dig your own grave even deeper because of your close frienship with Cllr. Britcliffe, because you've made public exactly how much he did spend on his meal in London, £12.30, which is a hell of a lot less than the £25.00 he voted to award themselves, and a percentage increase much more in line with current inflation would mean no one would be out of pocket, and there would have been no story, and therefore no public outcry.

So before you become anymore hysterical I'll say again, I have nothing against Cllr. Britcliffe (see #80 for glowing testimonial), but I will continue to post about something I see as wrong, irrespective of the political allegiance of the person concerned.

Yesterday on this very forum I called some members of this government 'cretins', I notice you haven't accused me of 'despising' the Labour party for doing so.

Odd that.

Well perhaps not too odd, considering you only see what you want to see, and not all the facts that are laid before you.

Perhaps being a member of any one political party makes everything seem as if it's viewed through blinkers.

Happily I'm free from both one party allegiance...and blinkered vision.

garinda · 31-01-2009, 16:17

One last thing to prove this criticism isn't personal.

If I had a problem and needed Peter's help, he'd go out of his way to help me, just as I know he's done for others, and that is one of the reasons why he's been a councillor so long in Ossy.

Clear enough an endorsement for you?