The Tories

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Oh, that's a real blow...I thought if you pled guilty it meant a lighter sentence.
(bleedin' lousy British justice)
Are you sure I can't be sentenced to be transported to the other side of the world?
I'll even steal a loaf of bread if it will make a difference.

They'll have to transport you eastwards ... we are full here

[cmonstanley]

Norman Baker tells commuters they are paying for 'premium product .bob crowe says rail passengers are getting bled dry by a bunch of spivs .i know who i believe.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Eric

They'll have to transport you eastwards ... we are full here

I was thinking more 'downunder'...at least I have rellies there that would bring me a cake with a file in it...and it is a big wide country with enough places to lose myself in Eric.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

Norman Baker tells commuters they are paying for 'premium product .bob crowe says rail passengers are getting bled dry by a bunch of spivs .i know who i believe.

The last time I looked the railways were a private enterprise...in it to make a profit....isn't that what businesses do?

[Margaret Pilkington]

And I don't recall you bringing up this subject before...like,when the Labour government was in office...this is the 10th consecutive year that prices have risen like this...so it isn't anything new...and Labour did nowt about it either, so don't sound so wounded.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

Norman Baker tells commuters they are paying for 'premium product .bob crowe says rail passengers are getting bled dry by a bunch of spivs .i know who i believe.

What was Bob saying when they went up oer the odds under Labour? In fact don't recall you saying out.

[cmonstanley]

i didnt agree with everything labour did or didnt,but they should have re-nationalized the railways.its the only way forward for the country to build on infrastructure instead of thinking the only way forward is to build more houses.the way forward is integration of the transport systems to help mobilise the work force at a reasonable price, instead of letting more money drain from the country to private shareholders.

[Lucysgirl]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

i didnt agree with everything labour did or didnt,but they should have re-nationalized the railways.its the only way forward for the country to build on infrastructure instead of thinking the only way forward is to build more houses.the way forward is integration of the transport systems to help mobilise the work force at a reasonable price, instead of letting more money drain from the country to private shareholders.

One look at Bob Crow's record should give a hint on why they weren't re-nationalized

[DaveinGermany]

[QUOTE=cmonstanley;1035335]but they should have re-nationalized the railways
instead of thinking the only way forward is to build more houses./QUOTE]

I really can't follow your "logic" ???

And anyway, just where would the money have come from ?? I seem to recall labour chucking it away hand over fist on pet enterprises such as the deadbeats, lazy & rather a large amount of foreigners who they'd let in in the hopes of swelling their voting base.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

i didnt agree with everything labour did or didnt,but they should have re-nationalized the railways.its the only way forward for the country to build on infrastructure instead of thinking the only way forward is to build more houses.the way forward is integration of the transport systems to help mobilise the work force at a reasonable price, instead of letting more money drain from the country to private shareholders.

You might not have agreed...but how would we know...you never uttered one word of criticism against them. Very unbalanced don't you think?
Has no-one ever told you that hindsight is 20/20.
Successive governments failed to invest in the infrastructure..so when private concerns took over these nationalised industries...they were in need of big money to bring them up to a better standard. Would you hand over your money to do this with absolutely no return for it? No, that is why investors want to get a return on their investments........it is a bit like putting money in the bank and getting interest........oh look, the interest rates have been at what is a zero rate(or might as well be for what the banks pay out). No return for the money = no investment.
Private companies employ people...they pay wages. shareholders invest(that means they put their hard earned cash into the business) for which they get dividend(not always great amounts either)...for economic health it is necessary to have investment...so that workers can have jobs.(many of these workers will also be shareholders..though they might not realise it - it is money put into shares/bond/investments that will grow their pension pot).

A lot of ordinary folk in this country have shares(I am one of them) they do not bring me a vast amount of money, but make the difference between being able to pay the gas bill, and not being able to pay the gas bill!

[cmonstanley]

I criticized them over the post office

[cmonstanley]

[QUOTE=DaveinGermany;1035346]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

but they should have re-nationalized the railways
instead of thinking the only way forward is to build more houses./QUOTE]

I really can't follow your "logic" ???

And anyway, just where would the money have come from ?? I seem to recall labour chucking it away hand over fist on pet enterprises such as the deadbeats, lazy & rather a large amount of foreigners who they'd let in in the hopes of swelling their voting base.

The logic is taxpayers money being wasted on a ideology that has cost the country billions and yes labour failed there

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

I criticized them over the post office

have you got proof of this? Because no-one on here recalls you ever posting anything at all against the last administration.

[Margaret Pilkington]

[QUOTE=cmonstanley;1035358]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

The logic is taxpayers money being wasted on a ideology that has cost the country billions and yes labour failed there

This has to be a red letter day!

The 'Labour failed' bit is what C'mon said...though the quote ia attributed to DiG.....he was quoting what C'mon said.
I have come over all faint...I had better have a lie down.
Never thought I would see that from such a staunch, dyed in the wool, labour supporter.

[Boeing Guy]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

have you got proof of this? Because no-one on here recalls you ever posting anything at all against the last administration.

As much as it pains me, there is his ONE post regarding this:
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...are-50031.html


Still it is only once