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Less 24-03-2014 05:10
Christian Science
 
Can I just point out that no-one has been fighting against anybody's God?
Just objecting to the manner this misguided fisher of men, treats the site & it's members.

Restless 24-03-2014 05:49
Re: Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099337)
Neil, but I think you ought to pay more attention..
The only person who needs to pay more attention is you

Less 24-03-2014 05:57
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1099341)
The only person who needs to pay more attention is you

Indeed, in fact the most Christian act he could perform would be to shut up and mind his own business.

While he's here though, I wonder if he could answer the following:-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 1099023)
Ooh sir, sir me next please sir please.

I have heard that it has been mentioned by a leading theologian that occasionally pimps the web for his own purposes once said,


"We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us."
My question is:-


























Do you believe that Jesus requires nothing of his followers other than to tell the Gospel?

dotti34 24-03-2014 06:00
Re: Christian Science
 
K99 - I have given you the courtesy of actually reading your posting No. 900 and yet again I have come to the conclusion you consider yourself a far superior being in your Christian belief to those of us who hold different views. No humility about K99 – that’s not being very Christian.

I respect the rights of others to believe in what they will, even you – but I think it is extremely presumptuous of you to be so arrogant in the way you appear to treat other people’s beliefs in that you seem to think if they don’t believe what you believe then they are wrong. Again no humility.

By the way, have you got a direct line with your God that you can act with so much perceived authority on the subject of Christianity? Has He spoken to you directly – or are you simply reiterating the mumbo-jumbo that has been told to you by mere mortals?

I must also point out that you contradict yourself in this posting by saying your God can either bless or much worse – and then state that he is a loving God. Can’t have it both ways.

Restless 24-03-2014 06:10
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 1099342)
Indeed, in fact the most Christian act he could perform would be to shut up and mind his own business.
Or he could answer the question that is constantly on the end of our tongues... (just for the person that gave me the red karma)

"We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us."
My question is:-


























Do you believe that Jesus requires nothing of his followers other than to tell the Gospel?

JCB 24-03-2014 07:06
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099337)
We Christians sometimes have to take risks for the sake of our master.
How about taking the risk of answering questions you have been asked .

Go back to 10/11/2013 .

I first posted on this thread on 11/11/2013 .

The words in a post of the previous day caught my eye .

The words were those of K99WARD and were " We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us. "

My post was :- " Are you sure ?

Nothing is required of us other than to tell the Gospel . :confused: "

Since then I have asked K99WARD on numerous occasions whether he believes that Jesus requires nothing of his followers other than to tell the Gospel .

I am sure that most would agree with me that his words which I have quoted are puzzling to say the least .

K99WARD has not had the courtesy to give me an answer , or when he has replied to my posts he has simply used the tactic of evasion .

If any , like me , think that the question deserves a truthful answer may I suggest that you continue to ask the question of K99WARD whenever he makes a post .

So K99WARD , to remind you .

You made this statement: " We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us."

What I want to know is whether you believe that Jesus requires nothing of his followers other than to tell the Gospel .

cashman 24-03-2014 07:17
Re: Christian Science
 
What yeh have got here,is n arrogant man,one who refuses to answer,due to the simple fact he has cocked up!!! He has said a few times now,that he HAS answered,when any fool can see he has not, That in my book,makes him a liar,simply to save his face,:rolleyes:

JCB 24-03-2014 07:51
Re: Christian Science
 
It seems to me that there is a fault line running through K99's definition of what a Christian is .

K99 says : " The Bible teaches that the good works we do cannot make us acceptable to God. "

He then says : " A true Christian is a person who has put faith and trust in the person and work of Jesus Christ . "

But surely putting faith in someone is a good work .

Surely putting trust in someone is a good work .

He ends by asking : " Have you made a decision for Christ? "

But surely making this decision is a good work .

It is easy to make a very selective use of Biblical verses , and to construct an ediface which on examination is based on no foundation other than a twisting of Scripture to suit one's own agenda .

Such an ediface soon collapses .

K99 never once uses the words of Jesus , perhaps because he knows they will not coincide with his narrow , truncated and fundamentally flawed conception of Christianity .

Jesus' words about how people get to heaven are nothing like K99's version . According to Jesus people get there by how they treat their fellow human beings , especially the less fortunate .

Speaking of Judgement Day Jesus said of himself and those being judged :
" Then the king will say to those at his right hand, “Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.” Then the righteous will answer him, “Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?” And the king will answer them, “Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.” ( Matthew , chapter 25 ) .

There are plenty good works mentioned there , and the passage leaves us in no doubt as to what will be the result of doing good , of living a good life .

maxthecollie 24-03-2014 07:54
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1099353)
What yeh have got here,is n arrogant man,one who refuses to answer,due to the simple fact he has cocked up!!! He has said a few times now,that he HAS answered,when any fool can see he has not, That in my book,makes him a liar,simply to save his face,:rolleyes:
He should have been a politician

K99WARD 24-03-2014 08:21
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dotti34 (Post 1099344)
K99 - I have given you the courtesy of actually reading your posting No. 900 and yet again I have come to the conclusion you consider yourself a far superior being in your Christian belief to those of us who hold different views. No humility about K99 – that’s not being very Christian.

I respect the rights of others to believe in what they will, even you – but I think it is extremely presumptuous of you to be so arrogant in the way you appear to treat other people’s beliefs in that you seem to think if they don’t believe what you believe then they are wrong. Again no humility.

By the way, have you got a direct line with your God that you can act with so much perceived authority on the subject of Christianity? Has He spoken to you directly – or are you simply reiterating the mumbo-jumbo that has been told to you by mere mortals?

I must also point out that you contradict yourself in this posting by saying your God can either bless or much worse – and then state that he is a loving God. Can’t have it both ways.
Hi dotti34,
Greetings to Australia,
The reason why you think I am arrogant, pompous and all the other words that non Christians usually use is because you have failed to understand the Christian life. I have pointed out in the past that our God is extremely tolerant (for now). He has decreed that people have the free will to do as they please (for the moment) but the day of reckoning is coming when we shall all answer for our transgressions (including myself). In modern parlance it is live now pay later. The wise ones recognise God's supremacy and that he will carry out his will. He sees everything. The technical term is CORAM DEO. You may look this up if you wish. Nothing is overlooked; nothing is forgotten so we cannot hide behind time or sheer number of transgressions. You can find his rules in the book of Exodus chapter 20. Since no one can keep those all the time, God has provided a way out in his only begotten Son. My direct line to God as you so succinctly put it is his Word, the holy scriptures. These contain the words of life to all who believe and put Jesus in charge of their life. Anyone can read it for themselves to check its veracity. I like to check most things and these days with the Internet it is ultra easy to do. You say I contradict myself but remember that on here I operate with one leg in plaster and an arm tied behind my back. Otherwise I could easily prove almost anything connected with the Christian faith but it would not be too long before you were shouting "copyright, copyright and advertising" and a host of other excuses that people think up to silence Christians, so it have to work with the tools available. All the information I have given can be verified on the Internet by yourselves.

What more can I say except, "Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
to the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen."

cashman 24-03-2014 08:39
Re: Christian Science
 
You arrogant swine logan, how can you assume dotti or anyone is non christian.You are a disgrace to all yeh profess to stand for.

Less 24-03-2014 08:41
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099363)
Hi dotti34,
Amen
(The Bull has been removed to make the above post easier to read).

What a shame, you came back, still, while your here I have a question for you:-



Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 1099023)
Ooh sir, sir me next please sir please.

I have heard that it has been mentioned by a leading theologian that occasionally pimps the web for his own purposes once said,


"We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us."
My question is:-


























Do you believe that Jesus requires nothing of his followers other than to tell the Gospel?

JCB 24-03-2014 09:13
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099363)
My direct line to God as you so succinctly put it is his Word.
Well get on your direct line and find the answer to my question .

Go back to 10/11/2013 .

I first posted on this thread on 11/11/2013 .

The words in a post of the previous day caught my eye .

The words were those of K99WARD and were " We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us. "

My post was :- " Are you sure ?

Nothing is required of us other than to tell the Gospel . :confused: "

Since then I have asked K99WARD on numerous occasions whether he believes that Jesus requires nothing of his followers other than to tell the Gospel .

I am sure that most would agree with me that his words which I have quoted are puzzling to say the least .

K99WARD has not had the courtesy to give me an answer , or when he has replied to my posts he has simply used the tactic of evasion .

If any , like me , think that the question deserves a truthful answer may I suggest that you continue to ask the question of K99WARD whenever he makes a post .

So K99WARD , to remind you .

You made this statement: " We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us."

What I want to know is whether you believe that Jesus requires nothing of his followers other than to tell the Gospel .

K99WARD 24-03-2014 09:55
Re: Christian Science
 
The crowd rose up together against them, (there's nothing new, is there?) and the chief magistrates tore their robes off them and proceeded to order them to be beaten with rods. When they had struck them with many blows, they threw them into prison, commanding the jailer to guard them securely; and he, having received such a command, threw them into the inner prison and fastened their feet in the stocks.

But about midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns of praise to God, and the prisoners were listening to them; and suddenly there came a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison house were shaken; and immediately all the doors were opened and everyone's chains were unfastened.

When the jailer awoke and saw the prison doors opened, he drew his sword and was about to kill himself, supposing that the prisoners had escaped. But Paul cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Do not harm yourself, for we are all here!" And he called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas, and after he brought them out, he said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"


What must I do to be saved? This is the most important question one can ask, for the answer one receives and accepts will make the difference between being lost and eternally separated from God, or having eternal life and fellowship with God. Fortunately, this question is asked and answered in the the Word of God, the Bible.

Mick 24-03-2014 09:55
Re: Christian Science
 
This thread is now going round in circles and is of no help in promoting the site or section
if this carries on this thread will be closed.
you have till the morning to make useful contributions to this thread and stop going round and round
if a member askes a question please answer it
and lets carry on with genuine contributions

dotti34 24-03-2014 09:59
Re: Christian Science
 
K99. I read your reply to my posting – no surprise there, so many words that say absolutely nothing as usual. You evade answers to questions (both mine and others on this thread), what you don’t have an answer for you completely ignore or twist around. You continue to sanctimoniously represent yourself.
I disagree with you on many aspects of your religion, on the book you apparently live by – and often quote from – and your ideas on life and death, which it is of course your prerogative to have, but to be perfectly honest I can’t be bothered to continue trading words with you. I have better things to do with my time. You are too entrenched, too biased, too brain-washed, to even listen and would only reply with more of the same, i.e. a lot of words that say nothing. Boring!
However, in spite of all the above I do wish you a happy life.

Less 24-03-2014 10:08
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099390)
The crowd rose up together against them, (there's nothing new, is there?)
Your right, nothing new there just more of your version of Christian propaganda.



Now would be a good time to answer the questions you have ignored, because Mick is laying down the AccyWeb law and his punishments are of this world and of this site and not from some fanciful being.
:D

cashman 24-03-2014 10:11
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dotti34 (Post 1099392)
However, in spite of all the above I do wish you a happy life.
Well yer much more christian than me dotti34,thats fer sure, Mick this geezer will never answer, sooner yeh close this the better, far as i'm concerned, Apart from his rabid wafflings, he is contributing sod all to the other threads,as far as i can see.:rolleyes:

MargaretR 24-03-2014 10:14
Re: Christian Science
 
When he starts another thread I hope that people will ignore it, or we will just get a continuation of this one.

Less 24-03-2014 10:23
Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1099395)
When he starts another thread I hope that people will ignore it, or we will just get a continuation of this one.

IF he starts another thread similar to this, I think you will find the mods being unhappy, Mick doesn't act on a whim, he has decided enough is enough however I'm sure he won't allow another thread that is of no use to the well being of the site or it's members.
:)

JCB 24-03-2014 10:50
Re: Christian Science
 
After what Mick has said in #915 I am all for this thread being closed .

There is going to be no dialogue .

K99 is not going to answer questions addressed to him .

K99 is just using it as a pulpit and I for one am weary of reading his distorted view of Christianity , no matter how sincere he may be .

Eric 24-03-2014 11:13
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1099320)
I am not convinced it exists.
Heaven, or the clique:confused:

Eric 24-03-2014 11:19
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099277)

Have you made a decision for Christ?
Kevin, I'm sure he's capable of making his own decisions.

Retlaw 24-03-2014 13:08
Re: Christian Science
 
After re reading some of these rantings its begins to sounds more & more like some one I named as Matthew Hopkins the Witch Finder General, if it is him, he knows who I am, the one he was unable to convert.

Neil 24-03-2014 14:33
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099337)
This is taking rather a risk since you have much more 'power' on this forum than I have Neil, but I think you ought to pay more attention. We Christians sometimes have to take risks for the sake of our master, Jesus Christ. It is part of the job. We have to take insults, but at least (for the moment) we are not fed to the lions or sawn in two like some of our forbears. I dare say that there are those who would like to bring it back but fighting against God is futile since he has the ability to either bless us or much worse. We do worship a loving God who has patience (far more than I have, for instance) but he has appointed a time when we shall ALL be judged. The judgement of believers will be different to that of unbelievers. Many who would call themselves Christian are unaware of this latter judgement. I am raising this point as I notice that one or two of your contributors have mentioned this subject. Believers will be judged on their performance in this life so those who think they can sit back and relax after accepting Christ (in the true sense) are going to get a shock. They will be saved but 'as through fire' as the scriptures put it.

God bless.

You still didn't answer the question, not that I thought you would answer it.
If you have forgotten the question it was

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1099251)
What have you done that makes you so special to assume you will go to Heaven, are you one of the 144,000?

K99WARD 24-03-2014 14:41
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 1099391)
This thread is now going round in circles and is of no help in promoting the site or section
if this carries on this thread will be closed.
you have till the morning to make useful contributions to this thread and stop going round and round
if a member askes a question please answer it
and lets carry on with genuine contributions
It was under the impression that the site rules said no repetition Mick. I have answered the question and to repeat it is a breach of the rules. :)

God bless

K99WARD 24-03-2014 14:47
Re: Christian Science
 
I must have gained another friend. I have now been liked three times. Thank you whoever you are. :)

cashman 24-03-2014 14:56
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099428)
It was under the impression that the site rules said no repetition Mick. I have answered the question and to repeat it is a breach of the rules. :)

God bless
You sir are a liar,plain n simple.

Restless 24-03-2014 15:45
Re: Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099428)
It was under the impression that the site rules said no repetition Mick. I have answered the question and to repeat it is a breach of the rules. :)

God bless
Well. You don't have to repeat it. However if you consider the multitude of posts in this thread and
How much of a pita it would be to find your answer you could consider a bend of the rules and repeating it or at least point JCB in the direction of the post # and settle this rubbish once and for all.

Eric 24-03-2014 16:02
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 1099391)
This thread is now going round in circles
Blessed are they that go round in circles, for they shall be called big wheels;)

maxthecollie 24-03-2014 16:32
Re: Christian Science
 
1 Attachment(s)
Attachment 39019 This is what our resident pastor has been spouting

Less 24-03-2014 18:29
Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099428)
It was under the impression that the site rules said no repetition Mick. I have answered the question and to repeat it is a breach of the rules. :)



God bless

No, although you are blinkered, I for one, don't suppose you to be stupid, answer the question like an honest human bean would do.

P.S. Not putting much toward the thread not being closed are we?

Perhaps we should try honesty rather than faith?

Eric 24-03-2014 18:37
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 1099469)

Perhaps we should try honesty rather than faith?
Hold not they breath.;)

cashman 24-03-2014 18:48
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 1099469)

Perhaps we should try honesty rather than faith?
Some people use lies,when the truth don't fit.;)

K99WARD 24-03-2014 18:54
Re: Christian Science
 
Here is a lovely OLD hymn in the public domain

Love divine, all loves excelling,
joy of heaven, to earth come down;
fix in us thy humble dwelling;
all thy faithful mercies crown!
Jesus thou art all compassion,
pure, unbounded love thou art;
visit us with thy salvation;
enter every trembling heart.

Finish, then, thy new creation;
pure and spotless let us be.
Let us see thy great salvation
perfectly restored in thee;
changed from glory into glory,
till in heaven we take our place,
till we cast our crowns before thee,
lost in wonder, love, and praise.

It does speak of the things discussed in this thread. :)

Less 24-03-2014 18:58
Christian Science
 
Not exactly putting forward any good reason to stop the thread being closed are we?

K99WARD 24-03-2014 19:00
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1099395)
When he starts another thread I hope that people will ignore it, or we will just get a continuation of this one.
Hi Margaret,
You are a darling and so thoughtful too. You shouldn't put such naughty ideas into my head. You will incur the wrath of the powers that be. :)

Less 24-03-2014 19:07
Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099481)
Hi Margaret,

You are a darling and so thoughtful too. You shouldn't put such naughty ideas into my head. You will incur the wrath of the powers that be. :)

Mags has been ducking and diving on here for many years, she knows it will be difficult to catch her, I for one would like you to remain for at least the same number of years, we hope every newbie has her potential, sadly you can't see the long view, you spend too much time thinking you are God.

Neil 24-03-2014 19:53
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1099395)
When he starts another thread I hope that people will ignore it, or we will just get a continuation of this one.
Starting a thread about a closed one is naughty

Eric 24-03-2014 20:15
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099479)
Here is a lovely OLD hymn in the public domain

Love divine, all loves excelling,
joy of heaven, to earth come down;
fix in us thy humble dwelling;
all thy faithful mercies crown!
Jesus thou art all compassion,
pure, unbounded love thou art;
visit us with thy salvation;
enter every trembling heart.

Finish, then, thy new creation;
pure and spotless let us be.
Let us see thy great salvation
perfectly restored in thee;
changed from glory into glory,
till in heaven we take our place,
till we cast our crowns before thee,
lost in wonder, love, and praise.

It does speak of the things discussed in this thread. :)
I prefer this:


Deteriorata slide show - YouTube

So, Kevin ... give up.

K99WARD 25-03-2014 01:27
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1099512)
I prefer this:


So, Kevin ... give up.
My wife had a good saying for songs like yours Eric,

"Where does it hurt worst?" :)

Eric 25-03-2014 01:35
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099549)

"Where does it hurt worst?" :)
Well, considering that you are a prime, grade A pain in the ass ..... :rolleyes:

K99WARD 25-03-2014 01:35
Re: Christian Science
 
The apostle Paul wrote to his young protege, Timothy, "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, re*buke, exhort with all longsuffer*ing and doctrine. . . . Watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry" (2 Tim. 4:1-5).

K99WARD 25-03-2014 01:48
Re: Christian Science
 
Thanks to Neil posting some rules, please note the following:

Abusing Other Members
Abusing other members of this website is not allowed. Debates are welcome but must not become personal or target another member.
All threads started that are personal attacks on other members will be deleted.

Insulting & Nasty Posts
Posts that are just insulting or nasty are not allowed on this website.

I guess some of you think they are justified but someone has been lax in allowing them. :)

Eric 25-03-2014 02:05
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099552)
Thanks to Neil posting some rules, please note the following:

Abusing Other Members
Abusing other members of this website is not allowed. Debates are welcome but must not become personal or target another member.
All threads started that are personal attacks on other members will be deleted.

Insulting & Nasty Posts
Posts that are just insulting or nasty are not allowed on this website.

I guess some of you think they are justified but someone has been lax in allowing them. :)
Nothing insulting about my post ... just an observation of what you consistently prove to everyone by your vapid, pointless, shallow, repetitive maunderings.

Mick 25-03-2014 05:49
Re: Christian Science
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K99WARD (Post 1099552)
Thanks to Neil posting some rules, please note the following:

Abusing Other Members
Abusing other members of this website is not allowed. Debates are welcome but must not become personal or target another member.
All threads started that are personal attacks on other members will be deleted.

Insulting & Nasty Posts
Posts that are just insulting or nasty are not allowed on this website.

I guess some of you think they are justified but someone has been lax in allowing them. :)
Right trying to quote site rules is pathetic I know the rules
any abuse should be reported no reports have been received
the mods tend not to delete or edit without a report first
anyway as this thread has now run its course in a lot of members & staff minds it is now CLOSED


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