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Btw - my posting No. 500 was in reply to K99's No. 476. Should have said.

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About time too.
Though every time I reported you I did say I was going to, so it shouldn't be too much of a shock.


Never have asked for it but have asked you not to give it.

I don't object to your views but I do object to you being so free with them.
Could you do similar by not constantly threatening member's with being banned and that you are able to cock up the site.

So far as I know, no Private information has been published except for things you have voluntarily put out there on the web, It wasn't more than two days ago you were encouraging the use of Google now you seem to have changed your mind.



I/We can look anywhere on site and give my/our views on any topic.

Now that you have vented your spleen, could I just point out that this IS NOT your website and ultimately no matter what published rules there may be, the final say is with the owner and the person that pays the bills.

So perhaps you should pull your red kneck in?
:)

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hummmm
Right
1, I welcomed you to the forum and questioned your motives for being here.
I remember hoping you would not start with the preaching. post 25.
I have not asked for your opinion, I have asked specific questions and most on here have done the same. No one is interested in your slant on reality.
In fact we have all asked for you not to keep on preaching to us.

2, fair enough, But you yourself brought this thread back to life so you could preach the word of god to us. If I remember you used the word COMMANDED.

3, Please do not insult our intelligence, we have been quite happy on here for many years before you came on here to straighten us out. You have no right to stop me or anyone else posting anything they want, as long as it is within the rules. This not YOUR forum, it is not yours for your personal use and threatening to Ban members even boasting you have shut down other sites and had members banned is not cricket.

4, Play with fire, you will get your fingers burnt, I suggest if you want privacy, then you should be more careful what you put on the internet. Considering you are, according to your comments, very internet savvy I would have expected better.

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And as for this........You are sounding like a spoilt child, not a mature adult who has been married for many many years.
I suggest you have a cup of hot chocolate and go to bed for a early night.

All this thinly veiled bitterness must be bad for your soul.

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I haven't complained to the moderator , but I am complaining to you because you persistently refuse to give your opinion to me when I ask you simple questions .

So I will try again .

Just to remind you this is what I asked .

You said : " We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us. "

Are the two separate statements you have just mentioned

1. We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel.
2. Nothing further is required of us. ?

If so which Bible are you using ?

Are you serious that Jesus commanded his followers just to tell the Gospel and made no other commands because nothing further is required of them ?

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This moderator is getting tired of all the attention you have been getting as well as the hassle you are causing me. I want to sit here, drink vodka and watch TV at this time of night not deal with adults acting like children.

If you carry on posting in a disrespectful way to other members I will remove you so I can carry on with my usual chilled out life.

Chill out read some other posts and calm down is my advice.

To those that might think I should not be posting this in public - I don't care what you think.

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Neil, I totally agree with your comments.
I have to admit I'm also finding it all a bit boring now as K99 is going round and round in circles like the proverbial dog chasing its tail. Although I am enjoying the comments of other members and have felt obliged to add mine from time-to-time, K99's comments are getting so repetitive that it is no longer amusing, even if it ever was.
Not even a 7-day's wonder.....

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red karma saying my post was gibberish. Guess you think the bible was written in english all along? hmm was it hebrew? who cares

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You have to love Roy for karma but new users cant give red or green, You have to have so many posts, it explains on a thread somewhere if you search

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Yes forgot about that. It's unsigned. So guess who

Christian Science
 

Not sure but I think it's around the time when the note under your name changes to 'full member'.
So much about karma has disappeared into the mists of time.
I wish we could have the dogs back, remember Tleafs Growler?

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Think some of it was in Aramaic Rob, whatever that is.

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I notice our friend hasn't come back with a defence of his opinions about WWII. Perhaps he realises what a load of testicles it is and is ashamed to show his face - actually I doubt that last bit very much... Perhaps his God has taken taken him up in a whirlwind (if only) as he did with Elijah* and deposited him in a burning fiery furnace as Hitler did with six million Jews. Or perhaps his views on WWII equate with his being a Holocaust denier as well... but that's another story (as in made up).

* No I haven't read the Bible but I have sung Mendelssohn's eponymous oratorio.

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Ooh, it's gone very quiet. Is the hurricane over?

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"He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind."

Kevin should have checked out Proverbs before he started his bs. Maybe he has left the site and is searching for a new pulpit.

"For now, faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love."

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Oh dear, Eric's been affected!
A copy and paste for his first sentence, he used to be Sooo original.
:)

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The Holy Spirit is upon me:theband: And it's only 9:30 am.! Praise Jeeezus, pass the bong, and get me another beer:D.

I do believe I will start my own church ... now, if only I could think of a name:confused: It has to be something catchy. Pity Christian Science has been taken ... it has a nice ring to it ... a mix of superstition and science ... maybe: The First Church of Christ the Conspiracy Theorist.

Communion will consist of beer and pizza ... haven't decided on con- or tran- substantiation; the devil is in the details:rolleyes: Membership is available to all who are prepared to give me their banking and credit card info.:D

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Well Eric, sometime this week you did mention that there is an art to the old comeback.

May I show you the standard of comeback that folk sometimes have to endure?

It was the comment for some karma I received about this thread, red of course all the greens were of a more sane nature.

14-11-2013 23:54 flibber flabber blobber blubber Not quite up to old Winstons standard is it? :)

Not signed, but looking at the time I suspect I know whom had just come in from the pub.

It seems he is still trying to use words not often seen by lesser mortals.
;)

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Yup ... it does sound like some mome rath outgrabing after imbibing:rolleyes::D

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I think this comes from playing too many games of Aldiborontiphoskyphorniostikos:eek:

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Well coincidence after coincidence, (or is it divine intervention?) I have a copy of that very book (unopened next to my Bible on my Bookcase).

Is a first edition copy of any value to a collector?

Further along my bookcase I do have a well thumbed copy of this book.
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...uBj_RyvDdbBVNI

I find it far more entertaining.
:mosher:

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Funny I had the same comment, similar time but for green K. unsigned. Maybe they pressed the wrong button and mine should have been red too. :confused::p:tongueout:niet::niet:

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Christian science is an oxymoron.

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Makes more sense than k99

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Hello ....... and you are? :)

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Finally, God has answered me.http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/ha...y-emoticon.gif

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Here is a perfect description of my wife from proverbs:

10How hard it is to find a capable wife! She is worth far more than jewels!
11Her husband puts his confidence in her, and he will never be poor.
12As long as she lives, she does him good and never harm.
13She keeps herself busy making wool and linen cloth.
14She brings home food from out-of-the-way places, as merchant ships do.
15She gets up before daylight to prepare food for her family and to tell her servant women what to do.
16She looks at land and buys it, and with money she has earned she plants a vineyard.
17She is a hard worker, strong and industrious.
18She knows the value of everything she makes, and works late into the night.
19She spins her own thread and weaves her own cloth.
20She is generous to the poor and needy.
21She doesn't worry when it snows, because her family has warm clothing.
22She makes bedspreads and wears clothes of fine purple linen.
23Her husband is well known, one of the leading citizens.
24She makes clothes and belts, and sells them to merchants.
25She is strong and respected and not afraid of the future.
26She speaks with a gentle wisdom.
27She is always busy and looks after her family's needs.
28Her children show their appreciation, and her husband praises her.
29He says, “Many women are good wives, but you are the best of them all.”
30Charm is deceptive and beauty disappears, but a woman who honours the Lord should be praised.
31Give her credit for all she does. She deserves the respect of everyone.

God bless her.

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Now that you have told us about your wife are you going to tell me your answers to the questions I keep asking you ?

Just to remind you this is what I asked .

You said : " We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us. "

Are the two separate statements you have just mentioned

1. We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel.
2. Nothing further is required of us. ?

If so which Bible are you using ?

Are you serious that Jesus commanded his followers just to tell the Gospel and made no other commands because nothing further is required of them ?

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I have issue with number 23.
Whilst you may be well know, on here at any case, its strikes me as a bit egotistical.


Here is an idea, why don't you answer a question with a straightforward answer?

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Tell that to Brother Cadfael.

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You seem to be trolling JCB

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Feel free to report him then, let's see which of you gets banned?
:)

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Still avoiding a simple question.............

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No . Just asking questions about what you have said but which you continue to avoid answering .

Just to remind you this is what I asked .

You said : " We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us. "

Are the two separate statements you have just mentioned

1. We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel.
2. Nothing further is required of us. ?

If so which Bible are you using ?

Are you serious that Jesus commanded his followers just to tell the Gospel and made no other commands because nothing further is required of them ?

Good night . I'll see in the morning if you have shown the courtesy to answer simple questions .

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Me too, for some reason. And the vineyard thing cofuses me ... whatever.;)

But the list does contain stuff that reminds me of my gran, Sally Ashton ... she was the wife of the guy who is my avatar ... Worked in a munitions factory in WWl, worked in the mills, and took care of my grandad who was wounded and gassed at Passchendaele ... a gradely woman:theband: You're probably into religious music. Here's her favorite hymn:


St Paul Cathedral Choir - Abide with me - YouTube


Anyway Kevin, glad to hear you have a good marriage. Oh, by the way, don't give the credit to God. And another thing, you are still wrong. The Bible, whatever it might be, is not the word of God.

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Just popped in again - checked that he was still around, read the latest epistle No. 527 posting - most of which didn't make sense, think confusion is in abundance - someone getting mixed up with fantasy and the real world. So many utterances that could be challenged but to be quite honest, I just can't be bothered.

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He's Graham Hartley. Of course. :p

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K9 have you read the quoran to compare the similarities to the bible? There is a English translated version on Google play books for free. Of course I wasn't that interested just wanted to do a search of it for the "virgins reward" Of course it wasn't there. Much to the belief of certain members here.

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Aye, aye, razors! Any sharper & you'd cut yourself! Smart arse! :D

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The tolerance peddlers are exposed as frauds when you consider that they simply will not practice what they preach—at least toward those annoyingly stubborn Christians. They are absolutely unwilling to “tolerate” the Christian premise that Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. For them to acknowledge this would necessarily refute their concept of tolerance, which holds that all ideas are of equal merit. In their infinite resourcefulness, they carve out an exception to their demand for universal tolerance when it comes to their treatment of Christians.
To them, Christianity’s exclusive truth claims are simply beyond the pale—so bad as to disqualify Christians from receiving tolerance from others. One secularist university administrator, for instance, disciplined a conservative professor for exposing her class to literature from a Christian viewpoint, which included an article about how teachers should approach homosexuality. The administrator exclaimed, “We cannot tolerate the intolerable.” You see, it’s fairly easy for these types to extricate themselves from their indefensible positions. They simply move the goalposts. Talk about defining truth through power!

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K99 is defo a pork pie short of a picnic:rolleyes:

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Tom Cruise is in the Scientology cult nothing to do with Christianity nor do they believe in Jesus Christ at all - but believe in something to do with Aliens coming down to earth and brainwashing the human race... you have to pay them to get rid of the brain washing!:eek::rolleyes:

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My hero! Years ago before it closed down I visited the reproduction of his garden and workshope in Shrewsbury. It was great, very hands on, you could make a medieval manuscript and get really messy. Shame they didn't have the money to keep it going, it was very educational as well as fun.

More recently I won second prize in a Cadfael competition, some books about his garden and some other things. The first prize was a trjp to Hungary to watch the programme being filmed.

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Good evening .

Well I don't know what you mean by the above words , and I don't understand what you are trying to achieve on this forum .

You are certainly doing no credit to the cause of spreading the Gospel to which you seem to adhere .

Yes , I am being stubborn again , and will continue to be until you answer the questions I have posed you I don't know how many times .


Just to remind you this is what I asked .

You said : " We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us. "

Are the two separate statements you have just mentioned

1. We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel.
2. Nothing further is required of us. ?

If so which Bible are you using ?

Are you serious that Jesus commanded his followers just to tell the Gospel and made no other commands because nothing further is required of them ?

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I just had a look round the rest of the site and found all your familiar faces there too. I found it so refreshing. It was like meeting old friends again. I wonder if I ever meet any of you in the street in Accrington. I shall be wearing a red carnation. You must introduce yourselves or you could post your pics and I could do the introductions. :)

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Like I said. Just go into the railway on a Saturday and look for two dodgy looking old men :D

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And a duck :D

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You really are trying to wind people up arn't you?

No don't answer, it would spoil it

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Allow me to translate for you JCB the thrust of it is WIBBLE WIBBLE WIBBLE WIBBLE WIBBLE WIBBLE which makes about as much sense as Mr Ks' load of old pony hope this helps:)

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What you seem unwilling to understand is that your kind of born-again, praise jeeeezus Christianity is irrelevant. (Unless of course you live in those parts of the U.S. where they have greeting cards which say: "Happy Birthday Uncle Dad".) Nobody with even half a brain gives it any thought at all. In fact, not too many folks give all that much thought to homosexuality ... you mentioned it by the way ... any more, except maybe some politicians wishing to get votes ... It's a fact of life, always has been, always will be. Of course, those not dealing from a full deck consider that gays pose a greater threat than all the nuclear warheads in the world ... that's including the ones the Russian mob have sold to assorted lunatics. I still can't fathom why naz ... oops ... ultra-conservative Christians are so fascinated by gay sexuality.:confused: It's probably all they talk about as they sit around planning an assasination of a doctor who performs abortions.

And please don't quote the Bible in rebuttal ... that too is irrelevant, except as a work of literary art.

Face it Kevin, your religion is irrelevant, and so are you. I trust that you have a human side. But not once have you shewn it in your posts. Even your praise of your wife is filched from the Bible. If I wished to tell a woman, "I love you", I wouldn't reach for the damned Bible. I would give her a huge hug (oops, wandering to another thread:D) and say "I love you."

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K99, I see you still keep cropping up – which is your prerogative as long as you stay within the boundaries and rules – even though you went quiet for a while there, and I suppose that by others also taking part in this thread it is feeding your ego – or whatever. Definitely not your humility – which seems to be in scarce supply. But that is our prerogative also until such times as the Administrators say enough is enough and pull the plug, if indeed they ever do. I hope they don’t.

However, I have read and reread some of your comments – and continue to be amazed how easily you skirt round issues without giving any proper answers. Just gobbledygook.

I take it you STILL haven’t visited the cancer wards of a Children’s Hospital – or any Ward if it comes to that, and seen the dreadful suffering of these innocent ones – then asked ‘why?’...

...now for some more gobbledygook.

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You really do miss me dotti. I guess it's withdrawal symptoms from my irresistible charm. I am still breathing. They tell me I have another ten years left but I sincerely hope not as the best is yet to be. :)

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Hi Eric,
You really do offer me praise for your observation. I don't think I have ever mentioned my new birth but thanks for noticing it anyway. Praise his holy name. :)

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When I was first married my new wife offered to let me go out with the boys one night a week but I said I would rather stop at home with her. I think she liked that. :)

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re K99's posting 552. My first reaction was to say a sarcastic 'ha ha ha ha ha' - a response to your very warped sense of humour.
On second thought I have decided you must be a very sad, lonely man - albeit egotistical - and if you are waiting to find what is coming to you after life (notice I didn't say in the after-life which is a load of cobblers!) and even looking forward to it, then all I can say is that you must not be enjoying a fulfilling life in the here and now.....

...AND YOU ARE STILL SKIRTING THE ISSUES!!!!!!!!

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Good Morning dotti,

Nice to see you again from all the way down under. I wonder what evidence you have for your point of view? I have God's assurance and since he is in charge, YES HE IS IN CHARGE, we have a duty to love him as he loves us. We are not only assured that there is an anti-christ; his evidence is all about us to see, but we also have a Saviour who died for us. How can anyone be lonely in such circumstances?

By the way, I am very impressed with the high standard of posting here. No starting sentences with small capitals or using abbreviations such as 'U' for 'you.' They must have been good teachers at Accrington Grammar school. :)

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Who told you that Christianity is irrelevant, Eric, your father? It is the religion of my Queen who is head of the church, the prime minister, the faith I was baptised into, taught at school but strangely enough it was vague until God sent his Spirit into my heart. I don't expect you to believe this. One has to experience it to understand it but it is a life-changing experience. One does have a human side. It is called the natural man and lives in us until the day we die but the power of God is stronger for those who call upon his name.

For those who call upon the name of The Lord shall be saved.

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‘Now the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him; and he cannot know them, because they are spiritually judged’ (2:14).”

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What evidence have you for yours? God's assurance is not evidence.

Yet another of your extremely patronising posts. No wonder this thread has filled 37 pages in just over a week, most of which is your senseless drivel.

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Good morning Susie. My, my you are an early customer. I am tucked up nice and warm in my bed. I hope that your tootsies are not too cold.

One wonders why you bother to read my posts with such an attitude. Maybe you are hoping to learn something from them. The word of God is senseless to the unsaved. It was senseless to me before I was saved also, but then the light of the glorious gospel shined into my heart and there was no turning back.

Down in the valley with my Savior I will go,
Where the flow’rs are blooming and the sweet waters flow;
Everywhere He leads me I will follow, follow on,
Walking in His footsteps till the crown be won.

Refrain:
Follow! follow! I will follow Jesus!
Anywhere, everywhere, I will follow on!
Follow! follow! I will follow Jesus!
Everywhere He leads me I will follow on!.

Down in the valley with my Savior I will go,
Where the storms are sweeping and the dark waters flow;
With His hand to lead me I will never, never fear,
Danger cannot fright me if my Lord is near.

Down in the valley, or upon the mountain steep,
Close beside my Savior will my soul ever keep;
He will lead me safely in the path that He has trod,
Up to where they gather on the hills of God

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K99. I don't wish to be personal - though you try your best to be so with some of the Webbers, including myself - but I have to say that you do not appear to sleep well. I wonder why.

At the risk of sounding rude (but if you can dish it out then you have to be able to take it) did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, your wife WANTED you to go out....

It is nice to know that you appreciate the teachings of Accrington Grammar School, by the way. I'm sure it was (and is) an excellent school, as shown by past students of that establishment - however my education was gleaned elsehere.

My last comment at this time is how sad you are to be looking forward to death - it would be a rude awakening if only you were able to realise it but it will be too late then, sadly that will be IT - there ain't no more!!!!!

...and still you don't answer relevant questions.

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You Married:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:supose you met her in chapel ;)

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Of course we can be found in other threads than this one, unlike you are able to discuss many topics, some of us even manage to put forward our own views and don't just copy and paste from the ecclesiastic copy of a Mills & Boone Adventure.

As for meeting us, you might, but only if it's Gods will.;)

As for pictures, there are 10 years worth of pictures of many of us in the gallery, in fact if you ask Mick nicely he might put his favourite one of me into this thread for you.
:)

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God bless you dotti. We were newly married and lived 27 years together in married bliss. On occasions people have accused me (but not on this forum) of lying about it saying that no one could be so happy. Well I guess they were as disbelieving as you lot. Have you ever wondered why the divorce rate is so high now when it didn't used to be? The other day I went into Tesco's to buy my horse meat (a joke) and what should I find but plates of mashed potato for sale. Is that what husbands now come home from work to get for tea? When we travelled away on holiday she travelled in her best costume with lovely ironed blouse. No sloppy jeans and sweater for her! It has been said that marriage is give and take—you give and she takes (another joke) but I say that a 50-50 marriage is useless. There are occasions of sickness when it has to be 100-0.

That is the end of my sermon on marriage. It is instituted of God and unless he blesses is it it will be purgatory (purgatory by the way is a religious myth). My wife was a pupil at Accrington Grammar School.

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God bless you too Jay. I actually met my wife at a dancing class. It is a wonder that I went but a friend was lonely and didn't want to go by himself so I reluctantly went along. We were just friends for two years but eventually friendship blossomed into courtship. Neither of us was particularly religious but she had devoted years to running the Girls Friendly Society (GFS) at her church and her girls loved her. I wasn't saved then but as I have said before I vowed I would never marry a non-Christian.

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I looked you up Less but is was purely by accident. I must have pressed the wrong button. I doubt if I would recognise you in the street as those bones through your nose make you look like an African warrior. It must have been taken at a fancy dress party.

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Is that why you don't know the answers to the questions I keep asking ?

Perhaps you don't know the answers because of ignorance .

Perhaps what you said in the first place was wrong , but you don't have the courage to admit it .

No need to worry , I will persist .

Just to remind you this is what I asked .

You said : " We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us. "

Are the two separate statements you have just mentioned

1. We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel.
2. Nothing further is required of us. ?

If so which Bible are you using ?

Are you serious that Jesus commanded his followers just to tell the Gospel and made no other commands because nothing further is required of them ?

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Now I know you are trolling JCB keeping repeating the same questions over and over again. I answered your questions many pages back and have no intention of repeating them again as the Moderator will probably edit them out as he has done with other perfectly legitimate posts. You are watching censored material.

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Hey, it's not a problem, thats what profiles are for.
An African Warrior? Well I can only take that as a compliment, they were a noble people until the Missionarys arrived and tainted their land.
For thousands of years they made a very good living out of their own Countries.
What thanks to the forcing of Christianity is now left them with? Greedy dictators and starvation?

Still, you won't mind, the missionarys were only spreading the word of God and poverty and disease, they can't even catch their own fish because your lot stole their nets to become 'fishers of men'.

Now we none-Christians are having to give to charities to right the wrongs your people did in his name.
:(

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Please tell me in which posts you answered these questions , because I can find no such posts .

Just to remind you this is what I asked .

You said : " We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us. "

Are the two separate statements you have just mentioned

1. We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel.
2. Nothing further is required of us. ?

If so which Bible are you using ?

Are you serious that Jesus commanded his followers just to tell the Gospel and made no other commands because nothing further is required of them ?

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Here is a easy question for you, K,

Can you show me any hard proof of the existance of God?

I am all ears:D

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Actually:
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Asking a simple question is not Trolling, however talking down to the rest of us, making statements regarding our Education, Ethnicity, Threatening members, etc IS TROLLING. It is also something you have been doing quite a bit on here.

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Well, it's Sunday, so I suppose the God botherer has gone off for a dose of Salvation no doubt soon to return to us with his version of the truth reinforced by being surrounded by others of his ilk.

He has mentioned that he is of C of E persuasion, proudly boasting that it is our queens religion and she is the leader.

I was born to parents of that faith, I have never understood basing a religion on the wishes of a King that had less morals than a Tom cat.

He was an adultress, murdering, spoilt brat that only started the Church so he could get his end away and steal the money from the Abbeys.

Not really alot there to recommend it, but then looking around at the heads of other religions, history seems to like that sort of guy in charge of peoples Earthly souls.
:end::bingobang

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I had not thought of it like that, good old Henry VIII.

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Be careful Less, look what MI6 did to The Queen of Hearts. You may be heading for the direction of the Tower to be incarcerated or maybe crashed into a concrete pillar. Having once complained to a Bishop and told to shove off (or words to that effect) I am hardly a Church of England adherent. It is true that at the Reformation it was probably the best church around but even then it was far from perfect. Indeed all churches are far from perfect. It has been said that if one found a perfect one then it would become imperfect the day we walked in the door.

I am a bible believing Christian. That means that I can be at one with anyone filling that description. Many people say they believe the bible, that is until they come to a bit that criticises them. That is when they make their excuses. There is a sentence in the bible that is so true. "They all of one accord began to make excuse." (Luke 14:18). Differing versions alter the wording slightly but they all mean the same thing.

I came to God at the height of the Charismatic revival. It was then that I had my eyes opened and ears unstopped. The bible that up to that time was a mystery and an enigma, suddenly was opened to me by the power of the Holy Spirit. Instead of being some old musty volume, the bible suddenly became alive and I read it like a best selling novel. This surely must be the power of God. As Ezekiel says, "A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh."

People reject God but in its place they just get misery. The The Holy Spirit is replaced by the bottle of spirits. Come now , and let us reason together , saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

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Hi there Boing Guy,

It's not your ears you need right now but your eyes. Look all around you.

Isaiah 49:18-20
New International Reader's Version (NIRV)
18 Look up. Look all around you.
All of your people are getting together
to come back to you.
You can be sure that I live,”
announces the Lord.
“And you can be just as sure that your people
will be like decorations you will wear.
Like a bride, you will wear them proudly.
19 “Zion, you were destroyed. Your land was left empty.
It was turned into a dry and empty desert.
But now you will be too small to hold all of your people.
And those who destroyed you will be far away.
20 The children who were born during your time of sorrow
will speak to you. They will say,
‘This city is too small for us.
Give us more space to live in.’

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Any time your ready K


Can you show me any hard proof of the existence of God?

While we are at it you can answer JCB's question

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Was that in the 60's lots of free love and plenty of weed?

You'll get on very well with Kestrex.

As for fears of the Queens retribution I would fear that far more than God's wrath but she doesn't post much on here anymore so she's not likely to read this.

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By all means give to charities Less if it make you feel good. I personally think that charities in Britain are redundant as we pay taxes to support a welfare state. At one time the church made it part of its task to feed the hungry but now the state has taken over the task. Many appear to be in want but they still keep their computers and ISP to say nothing of the TV.

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These posts become weirder by the day.. :D:D:D

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Very charitable:rolleyes:

What about poverty in the Third World?, which was doing very well until the Missionary's arrived......

On the subject of questions, I refer you to post #577

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Feel free to say nothing of the TV.

In fact, feel free to say nothing.
:D

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Nope not enough, I sad HARD EVIDENCE, you know the sort that cannot be disputed in a Laboratory.

Still waiting

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Matthew 16
New International Version (NIV)
The Demand for a Sign

16 The Pharisees and Sadducees came to Jesus and tested him by asking him to show them a sign from heaven.

2 He replied, “When evening comes, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,’ 3 and in the morning, ‘Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times.[a] 4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.” Jesus then left them and went away.

The Yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees

5 When they went across the lake, the disciples forgot to take bread. 6 “Be careful,” Jesus said to them. “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”

7 They discussed this among themselves and said, “It is because we didn’t bring any bread.”

8 Aware of their discussion, Jesus asked, “You of little faith, why are you talking among yourselves about having no bread? 9 Do you still not understand? Don’t you remember the five loaves for the five thousand, and how many basketfuls you gathered? 10 Or the seven loaves for the four thousand, and how many basketfuls you gathered? 11 How is it you don’t understand that I was not talking to you about bread? But be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” 12 Then they understood that he was not telling them to guard against the yeast used in bread, but against the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

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I notice that you seem to be attempting to hide insults in what could almost be termed humour?

A dig at my profile piccy and comparing it to some native African,:golly: ( no doubt one that would prefer not to be one of Gods little children if he knows what's good for him) and now changing Boeing Guy into Boing, :jump3: a real rib tickler that one, you must have had divine intervention to allow such subtlety in one of your posts.

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Marriage is not as relevant as it once was. My friend ern that died a few years back was with his partner for around 20 years + before they got married. Thier relationship was one to be envious of

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I don't claim that Christians and science are oxymoronic. Rather, the Christian resort to miracles is non-scientific. There exists no scientific account in the Bible or elsewhere of how Jesus was able to turn water instantly into wine, walk on water and the rest. Better to declare that I haven't found such accounts - expecting some references. Indeed in the scientific literature I have found no acknowledgement that Jesus was able to perform miracles. I might be supplied with references to such admissions, but don't expect them.

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I take it you have just jumped in on this thread without reading it all?

The reason for this assumption is that had you read the thread, you would have seen Kevin being asked to go to the introduce yourself thread and well, introduce himself.

Perhaps after you do read all the thread you could also oblige?
:D

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Christ our Helper
1I am writing this to you, my children, so that you will not sin; but if anyone does sin, we have someone who pleads with the Father on our behalf — Jesus Christ, the righteous one. 2And Christ himself is the means by which our sins are forgiven, and not our sins only, but also the sins of everyone.
3If we obey God's commands, then we are sure that we know him. 4Those who say that they know him, but do not obey his commands, are liars and there is no truth in them. 5All those who obey his word are people whose love for God has really been made perfect. This is how we can be sure that we are in union with God: 6those who say that they remain in union with God should live just as Jesus Christ did.
The New Command
7My dear friends, this command I am writing to you is not new; it is the old command, the one you have had from the very beginning. The old command is the message you have already heard.8However, the command I am now writing to you is new, because its truth is seen in Christ and also in you. For the darkness is passing away, and the real light is already shining.
9Those who say that they are in the light, yet hate their brothers and sisters, are in the darkness to this very hour. 10Those who love their brothers and sisters live in the light, and so there is nothing in them that will cause someone else to sin. 11But those who hate their brothers and sisters are in the darkness; they walk in it and do not know where they are going, because the darkness has made them blind.

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Hi D, (seeing you cannot get my name right, I will now call you D99ward)

You see proof is not to be found in the Bible, the problem is this, the Bible is a few thousand years old and as such is not reliable in determining proof, to help you I will rephrase my original question.

What Scientific evidence can you show that God exists?

It is a simple answer, if there is proof then great, however if not why not say so, it should not shake your belief

Definition of Scientific Evidence:
Scientific evidence is evidence which serves to either support or counter a scientific theory or hypothesis. Such evidence is expected to be empirical evidence and in accordance with scientific method. Standards for scientific evidence vary according to the field of inquiry, but the strength of scientific evidence is generally based on the results of statistical analysis and the strength of scientific controls.

Good luck, oh and by the way, I believe JCB is still waiting:D

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The arrogance of this man is mind boggling. I'm late to this thread today but Si you have put my thoughts on charities into words very well, thank you. And also of course the lack of explananation of walking on water etc. Perhaps one day some archaeologist will uncover a laboratory from the biblical era...

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I have reported this post (#589) because it is obviously copy and paste with no personal input nor, the courtesy to aknowledge the site you took it from.

:)

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Arrogant and patronising in equal measure. I read your posts and the rest of the thread for a certain entertainment value and to see whether anything will appear other than the usual Biblical platitudes. Your views, like mine, are unchanging and unchangeable.

BTW I also was tucked up nice and warm in my bed, not that it's any business of yours, as is the state of my toes. I was on my way towards sleep rather than waking.

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So you are a bible believing Christian , but do you know your Bible enough to answer the questions I have asked you about what you have said , questions I have raised many times but which you persist in evading ?

Call it trolling if you wish , but I will continue to ask the same questions hoping that some day you will be courteous enough to answer .


Just to remind you this is what I asked .

You said : " We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us. "

Are the two separate statements you have just mentioned

1. We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel.
2. Nothing further is required of us. ?

If so which Bible are you using ?

Are you serious that Jesus commanded his followers just to tell the Gospel and made no other commands because nothing further is required of them ?

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They seem to be reasonable questions and if I were the type to study such material, I think they are questions I aught to be able to answer.
Perhaps your asking the wrong questions JCB?
Start him on something easier such as:-

Why are you sticking your nose in where it's not wanted?

When will you be good enough to leave of your own accord?

Will you just keep visiting the site until you get a permenant ban?

OR

He could perhaps just answer these questions:-

You said : " We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us. "

Are the two separate statements you have just mentioned

1. We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel.
2. Nothing further is required of us. ?

If so which Bible are you using ?

They seem to be questions that keep coming up on this thread.

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Nobody, I have this bad habit of thinking for myself:rolleyes: ... now, Kevin, I know that thinking is not your strong point ... in fact, I do believe that you would have trouble pouring water out of a boot, even if the instructions were written on the heel ... but you must have heard of thinking; you may even have known folks who actually knew how to do it, altho' I doubt they had the stomach or the patience to hang out with you for long.

Without your bible you are nothing, a cipher ... You use the bible as a life raft on the troubled sea of life (I like using cliches now and again) ... but the bible itself is mere myth (and alliteration) ... You have sold your birthright for a mess of pottage (and biblical illusions;)) ... I trust you know the source.

Have a nice day, and don't do anything you wouldn't eat.

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No you silly man I won't get you banned, YOU will.

Yes, each to their own, if memory serves, the tune is ripped off from the planet suite and the words were composed as a little bit of WWI propergander.

Am I right or wrong?

Or is this another question you will ignore?

And did those feet in ancient time
walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
on England's pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
among those dark satanic mills?

Bring me by bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight,
nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
till we have built Jerusalem
in England's green and pleasant land.

Willam Blake


The second verse is really good, tell me, what will you do with them if you get your arrows of desire?

Sounds a touch sinful to me.

It is often heard at funerals.
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/ha...-in-casket.gif

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The Palestinians won't be too pleased about that!

Come to that, the Israelis won't be too happy either.

These Christians are trouble makers!

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I hope not , at least not before you have answered my simple questions .

Just to remind you this is what I asked .

You said : " We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel. Nothing further is required of us. "

Are the two separate statements you have just mentioned

1. We are COMMANDED to tell the gospel.
2. Nothing further is required of us. ?

If so which Bible are you using ?

Are you serious that Jesus commanded his followers just to tell the Gospel and made no other commands because nothing further is required of them ?

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Thanks for the advice. My regular experience is of an environment in which no-one cares a fig about introduction.