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Margaret Pilkington 20-01-2013 20:28

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I did actually have a go at reading some of the stuff that is in those links...but it wasn't an easy read.......so I gave it up.
Those writers are like vultures picking over the bones of history...they can do nothing about what happened any more than we can.
And who is to say what India(or any of the colonies for that matter) would have been like had the British not been involved in their past?

Eric 21-01-2013 00:27

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1037954)
I did actually have a go at reading some of the stuff that is in those links...but it wasn't an easy read.......so I gave it up.
Those writers are like vultures picking over the bones of history...they can do nothing about what happened any more than we can.
And who is to say what India(or any of the colonies for that matter) would have been like had the British not been involved in their past?

I'm afraid I don't agree with your view of history. But, as usual, I like and admire the way you put forward your opinions: lite on the cliches, and heavy on the calm reasoned argument ... except maybe when something really pees you off:D I always like to think that you don't open your mouth, or head for the keyboard, without giving some serious thought to what you are about to "say".

Margaret Pilkington 21-01-2013 07:25

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I take that as a compliment Eric....Thankyou.
I like that you have been 'gentle' with me for my differing view of history......and I'm quite happy to agree to disagree.

I'm not an expert on history(and that could be why I hold the views that I do).......and unless something really grabs me about a time or a place in history then the facts can be a bit hazy.

When I was at school, we didn't do a lot of history, and it was taught in such a manner that I found window gazing and daydreaming to be a better option.......which I suppose is why I left school at 15 without a paper qualification to my name.

I am somewhat distrustful of latter day writers, of what the Brits did to places they colonised....thinking they have some kind of gripe and want to exercise it.....but cannot conceive of how India(just as an example) might have been without any outside influence.

We can't move on by hanging onto the grudges of the past.....that were perpetrated in different time, by people who had a vastly different view of the world.
We didn't do it back then, so cannot be held responsible.
We can only be held responsible for what is happening in the here and now.........and I don't know about you, but my influence on world events is like a gnat bite on the hide of a hippo.

jaysay 21-01-2013 08:02

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 1037952)
Or the 'Daily Mail':D:D

ticktock the clocks ticking

jaysay 21-01-2013 08:14

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1037954)
I did actually have a go at reading some of the stuff that is in those links...but it wasn't an easy read.......so I gave it up.
Those writers are like vultures picking over the bones of history...they can do nothing about what happened any more than we can.
And who is to say what India(or any of the colonies for that matter) would have been like had the British not been involved in their past?

History is always quoted by the left in arguments, as you say we can do sod all about what our forefathers did, different era different set of rules, thankfully we've taken giant steps since those times, yet in places like China, and Burma their human rights record today are just as appalling and on a par with life behind the Iron Curtain pre 1989, yet you never hear any criticism, wonder why

Less 21-01-2013 09:42

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1037972)
my influence on world events is like a gnat bite on the hide of a hippo.

Ah, but had you not been there Margaret someone that has had a great effect on the world might have died, some other unsung hero.
:)

Margaret Pilkington 21-01-2013 09:54

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Less, you overestimate my influence.........I did my bit(mainly because I enjoyed doing it - nothing altruistic in that...and yes I got paid too) and I daresay that over the years I have made a difference to some lives, though in a very small and perhaps insignificant way. (it must be so, because people still yell out in the street Sr P!)
I have not touched the lives of those with influence on how the world is run....or at least I don't think I have.

Less 21-01-2013 10:04

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1037989)
or at least I don't think I have.

A perfect example of the butterfly effect!
;)

Margaret Pilkington 21-01-2013 10:31

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yes, Less...I have a theory(but no real evidence) on that, but if I told you what it was...you would mark my card 'NUTTER' :D

Less 21-01-2013 10:53

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1037995)
you would mark my card 'NUTTER' :D

Don't assume I haven't already!
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Margaret Pilkington 21-01-2013 11:08

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Oh well......nuff said :)
Personally...I prefer....Unique, but will accept eccentric.

Eric 21-01-2013 13:25

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1037972)
I take that as a compliment Eric....Thankyou.
I like that you have been 'gentle' with me for my differing view of history......and I'm quite happy to agree to disagree.

I'm not an expert on history(and that could be why I hold the views that I do).......and unless something really grabs me about a time or a place in history then the facts can be a bit hazy.

When I was at school, we didn't do a lot of history, and it was taught in such a manner that I found window gazing and daydreaming to be a better option.......which I suppose is why I left school at 15 without a paper qualification to my name.

I am somewhat distrustful of latter day writers, of what the Brits did to places they colonised....thinking they have some kind of gripe and want to exercise it.....but cannot conceive of how India(just as an example) might have been without any outside influence.

We can't move on by hanging onto the grudges of the past.....that were perpetrated in different time, by people who had a vastly different view of the world.
We didn't do it back then, so cannot be held responsible.
We can only be held responsible for what is happening in the here and now.........and I don't know about you, but my influence on world events is like a gnat bite on the hide of a hippo.

You sound a little like Catherine Moreland in Northanger Abbey: "History, real solemn history, I cannot be interested in ... The quarrels of popes and kings, with wars or pestilences in every page ... it is very tiresome.";):D Austen had interesting views on history.

I got interested in this view when I read a little about chaos theory, and quantum cognition. I know, I have too much free time on my hands ... maybe I should get a life:D, or concentrate on:thepint::thepint::thepint:

Margaret Pilkington 21-01-2013 14:07

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I am not a fan of Austen, but now, you make me tempted to read Northanger abbey to see if I am like the character Catherine Moreland.
I am sure that Catherine was a far more refined lady than i could ever hope to be.

susie123 21-01-2013 14:25

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1038008)
I got interested in this view when I read a little about chaos theory, and quantum cognition. I know, I have too much free time on my hands ... maybe I should get a life:D, or concentrate on:thepint::thepint::thepint:

Eric, if everyone used their free time as well and as intelligently as you do the world would be a better place.

Less 21-01-2013 16:40

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 1038010)
Eric, if everyone used their free time as well and as intelligently as you do the world would be a better place.

However, if he spent more time drinking instead of reading he wouldn't need books, no books means less trees being used for paper, better for the planet, unless of course his books are supplied by velvet publishing.
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