Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 977826)

I suspect they kept quiet because he management was unaware of the scale of the problem or they were trying to avoid a charge of criminal negligence thrown against them. The fact remains that this company was in the public sector at the time and that is something that you cannot deny.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 977813)

Just watched a programme on T.V. n was amazed to learn the E.U. Human Rights idea emanate from a Tory, Winston Churchill in 1948, n came to fruition in 1950 by another un.:( Wonder why good ole David n Co never mention that fact whilst saying its no good?:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 977885)

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

These are five interesting statments made by an economics professor........I do not take credit for them, (after all I only found them) but I thought that they may just provide something of interest for those reading this thread.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 977866)

Cashy there's nothing wrong with the human rights act, just the way its aloud to be used, it was never intended to allow criminals to get the vote or people living here without justification, its now probably the most misused legislation in use

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 977890)

Wrong, whats not right is its been lumped together wi every other E.U. member, Some of those members dont really give a toss about human rights,so unless they all agree (very Unlikely) yeh can never change it. We need our OWN bill of rights.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 977894)

Cashy even if we did have or own Bill of rights we would still be governed by the European act, its nothing to do with the EU, we would still come second best, its the European court that needs changing and made to stick to what it was first introduced for, not a charter for evading justice

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 977901)

What a crap reason.:rolleyes: You can't change it n ye know it. :rolleyes: Its a good enough reason to get out of the whole sheebang.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978009)

That's just it cashy you can't opt out, its nothing to do with the European Union, even if we were stand alone, people would still be able to take their case to the European court of human rights

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 978013)

They could take it were the hell they want if we withdrew simple as.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 978018)

And any adjudication made by that court would be binding in Britain