Cameron on state multiculturalism.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

already the Muslim groups are howling racism.

It would be good if muslim people, would stand up and be counted when atrocities which involve muslim extemism occur, but it doesn't happen...this lends the feeling that they are complicit with what is happening.

That has always been my sentiment to Margaret, no matter what happens the leaders of the muslim communities only pay lips service to condemnation, Terrorist (Islamic) always use the name of god in their propaganda, never do you here these words denounced by muslim clerics. All this crap about bombers going to paradise, why don't these clerics rant and rave and shout it from the rooftops that those who commit these atrocities in the name of god, will burn in the flames of hell and not in the haven of paradise

[cmonstanley]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

my worry(if you can call it that) is that this may be just one of those 'sound bites' that Tony Blair was so fond of.......it is what he thinks the electorate want to hear.......and then it will be followed up by more sound bites, none of which do anything.

Is what he is proposing do-able? Well, he could always make a bigger step and take us out of the EHR fiasco.......this would show that he means what he says.....failing that, it is just words, which can be blown away like chaff in the wind.

hes already doing the opposite by encouraging faith schools with public funding. talk is cheap

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

hes already doing the opposite by encouraging faith schools with public funding. talk is cheap

Ya I tore my hair out for years listening to Blair Brown and their henchmen

[cmonstanley]

Originally Posted by jaysay

ya i tore my hair out for years listening to blair brown and their henchmen

:d:d:d:d

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

That has always been my sentiment to Margaret, no matter what happens the leaders of the muslim communities only pay lips service to condemnation, Terrorist (Islamic) always use the name of god in their propaganda, never do you here these words denounced by muslim clerics. All this crap about bombers going to paradise, why don't these clerics rant and rave and shout it from the rooftops that those who commit these atrocities in the name of god, will burn in the flames of hell and not in the haven of paradise

I've said before, if I ws a local Mullah I'd be organising public demonstrations, showing that Islam has been hijacked by the few, as an excuse for terrorism, and political ends, and that the vast majority of British Muslims are law abiding citizens.

Nothing.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

I've said before, if I was a local Mullah I'd be organising public demonstrations, showing that Islam has been hijacked by the few, as an excuse for terrorism, and political ends, and that the vast majority of British Muslims are law abiding citizens.

Nothing.

Exactly, they just play lip service, the odd comment in the local press, its no use saying most muslims are peace loving, because it only serves to enhance the saying not all Muslims are terrorist, but nearly all terrorists are Muslim

[cashman]

Originally Posted by garinda

Like I replied to Margaret, you might be right.

The fact remains he said it.

No one else has.

Remember weasley Jack Straw on the Nick Griffin Question Time?

Three times Dimbleby asked the former Home Secretary if Labour party policy could in any way be responsible for the rise in support for extremist political parties.

Three questions completely ignored.

Silence.

At least Cameron has brought this issue into the public arena.

True but was said in Germany, lets see if he opens his gob in the House oer here?

[cmonstanley]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Exactly, they just play lip service, the odd comment in the local press, its no use saying most muslims are peace loving, because it only serves to enhance the saying not all Muslims are terrorist, but nearly all terrorists are Muslim

not true theres a good wack of irish dissidents that are ready to bomb..

[cashman]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

not true theres a good wack of irish dissidents that are ready to bomb..

sometimes i wonder what planet yer on, yes there are irish dissidents, but a good wack, yer joking not in the same league.

[cmonstanley]

Originally Posted by cashman

sometimes i wonder what planet yer on, yes there are irish dissidents, but a good wack, yer joking not in the same league.

you havent got a clue about irish/ ulster/uk politics the threat from irish dissidents is just as high as from islamic extremists fact as which was discussed on december on the parliament channel.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

you havent got a clue about irish/ ulster/uk politics the threat from irish dissidents is just as high as from islamic extremists fact as which was discussed on december on the parliament channel.

yeh have just added stupidity to yer list of attributes, as anyone who knows me will see.

[cmonstanley]

whats the rest ? 2 security alerts in 2 days in ulster the security services know something big is going down..

[DaveinGermany]

I spent near on 3 hours reading the comments following the Cameron article in the Indie this morning. Yes it sounds good, someone actually raising the issue (A PM at that) that so many are aware of but afeared to speak out about less they be branded racist, bigoted, xenophobic.

But words are just that, words ! Unless he actually sets into motion actions which will back his rhetoric the man will remain a lying deceiver courting the populist opinion.

He has made this bold statement now set the wheels in motion, please ! It is long overdue & should be applied equally & liberally to all aspects deserving of this cutting away & cauterization of a festering wound.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

not true theres a good wack of irish dissidents that are ready to bomb..

Ya that Ian Paisley has a lot to answer for

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

I spent near on 3 hours reading the comments following the Cameron article in the Indie this morning. Yes it sounds good, someone actually raising the issue (A PM at that) that so many are aware of but afeared to speak out about less they be branded racist, bigoted, xenophobic.

But words are just that, words ! Unless he actually sets into motion actions which will back his rhetoric the man will remain a lying deceiver courting the populist opinion.

He has made this bold statement now set the wheels in motion, please ! It is long overdue & should be applied equally & liberally to all aspects deserving of this cutting away & cauterization of a festering wound.

As you said Dave he's made his bold statement, nobody over the last few years has even managed that, oak trees and all that