Pakdasht justice? - Page 4

Tealeaf · 17-03-2005, 17:17

i agree, A-Bob. We need to re-introduce capital punishment and fast. And to make things interesting I believe we should hang a bleeding- heart do-gooder alongside whoever is the guilty party, on the basis that if society is to blame (as they claim) then they can pay the price , too.

I would also have public hanging, and charge admissiont, at venues such as Old Trafford or Wembley. All proceeds raised go towards the victims family.

lindsay ormerod · 17-03-2005, 17:17

Oh I don't know about that A-B,you could have a veritable stampede of sado-masochists!

Seriously though I agree with your post in it's entirety.

Doug · 17-03-2005, 17:18

“No system is perfect. But, unlike Syndney Silverman, I think that although it is regretable, it is acceptable that sometimes the innocent must suffer rather than let the guilty go free.”

But you are prepared to see an innocent suffer that very fate, rather than the guilty walk free. If the job was done properly in the first place, their would be little to worry about I know.

Doug · 17-03-2005, 17:19

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

No, I'm sorry. I'm fed up with being nice and reasonable. We have been doing that for long enough and it has gotten us nowhere.
Once of a day, gun crime was virtually unheard of in this country, how times change! Why? Because the criminal classes know that the bleeding heart liberals, while not approving of their wrongdoing, neverthless will bend over backwards to try and "understand" them and arrange a suitable programme of rehabilitation and education to try and turn them into caring sharing members of the community. While the victim is, more often than not, left to pick up the pieces and carry on as best they can.

You can stuff liberalism! I am sick to the back teeth of having to accomodate the incompetant, the socially inadequate, the Idle and the feckless. I am sick of having to carry them and having to fork out my hard earned money to clean up after them.

I totally agree with you A-B. All I ask is we ensure that the guilty are in fact guilty before we do it.

garinda · 17-03-2005, 17:19

Again sorry to harp on, but gun ownership, both legal and illegal in the States, plus Capital punishment in the US, does not equal a safe and harmonius society. The figures speak for themselves.

g78 · 17-03-2005, 17:20

And what happens if that innocent person is you? Would u be arguing for capital punishment then? Just as they were about to inject that fatal dose?

Tealeaf · 17-03-2005, 17:26

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Originally Posted by garinda

Again sorry to harp on, but gun ownership, both legal and illegal in the States, plus Capital punishment in the US, does not equal a safe and harmonius society. The figures speak for themselves.

yeah, the figures do speak for themselves....burglary is one-third of British levels, crime against the person also one third of British levels, motor theft half UK levels, serious gun crime resticted to ethnics within the inner-city areas, entire counties within certain states crime free for the last 20 years or so.

Give me the US crime experiance anyday.

garinda · 17-03-2005, 17:26

Oh, and since l'm only one of two people against capital punishment so far in this thread.

l'd like to state my politics are neither wooly or liberal, but veer from the libertarian to the fascistic on some issues.

g78 · 17-03-2005, 17:35

[QUOTE=Tealeaf Give me the US crime experiance anyday.[/QUOTE]
I am sure many americans would argue that point and take our justice any day.

Tealeaf · 17-03-2005, 17:35

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Originally Posted by garinda

Oh, and since l'm only one of two people against capital punishment so far in this thread.

l'd like to state my politics are neither wooly or liberal, but veer from the libertarian to the fascistic on some issues.

Oh dear..it appears we have a goose-stepping, do-gooding, luvvy-dovey criminal apologist loose on here. Whatever next?

Tealeaf · 17-03-2005, 17:37

[QUOTE=g78]

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf Give me the US crime experiance anyday.[/QUOTE

I am sure many americans would argue that point and take our justice any day.

Yeah...the murdering scum stretching out their time on Death Row. Bollocks to 'em.

g78 · 17-03-2005, 17:41

Tealeaf as usual you are once again demonstrating your sheer openmindedness, congratulations.

Tealeaf · 17-03-2005, 17:45

Thank you. I rest my case. Goodnight everyone.

MichiganRed · 17-03-2005, 17:46

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Originally Posted by g78

I just don't see how morally we can condone taking a life of someone who has already taken a life. To me it is double standards.

The answer to your quandry is rather simple. Punishment is established to place a value, if you will, on the crime. For example, if you wish to exceed the speed limit, it will cost you "X" amount of money. Capital punishment simply takes the value with which you hold your own existence and places it on those around you. If you do not want to lose your life, you will not take mine.

garinda · 17-03-2005, 17:47

[QUOTE=Tealeaf]Oh dear..it appears we have a goose-stepping, do-gooding, luvvy-dovey criminal apologist loose on here. Whatever next?[/QUOTE

Dunno, a misogynistic, hang 'em high unsubstantiated facts wielding racist? Which Counties in the US have been totally crime free for the last 20 years?