The Tories

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

Certainly not by supporting a scheme that punishes the genuine.

Ideas please then, it would be appreciated

[cashman]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Ideas please then, it would be appreciated

I aint in government nor well rewarded fer me ideas, Expecting me to tell yeh, is a typical Tory Cop Out.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

I aint in government nor well rewarded fer me ideas, Expecting me to tell yeh, is a typical Tory Cop Out.

Typical labour mon, criticism without answers

[cmonstanley]

Originally Posted by jaysay

You are at total prat why don't you throw the towel in, you gave up making sense ages ago, they'll be working for more now than three years ago clown, there is a minimum wage, you know that thing Labour said the Tories would abolish

getting angry because everything im predicting with the tories is comming true.no way are they working for more than they were 3 years ago. utilities prices :20% rise inflation 2% rise vat 20% rise your in a dream world.the tories record here we go lol

triple aaa rating lost, unemployment rising ,input down. ha ha now they are all clambering to cover up all their 2nd and 3rd banking jobs with the new ruling they have to reveal their other work. yes who forced this rule through before the last election.yes gordon brown.

[cashman]

And smug old Ian Duncan Smith says he could live off £7-50 a day if he had too.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

getting angry because everything im predicting with the tories is comming true.no way are they working for more than they were 3 years ago. utilities prices :20% rise inflation 2% rise vat 20% rise your in a dream world.the tories record here we go lol

triple aaa rating lost, unemployment rising ,input down. ha ha now they are all clambering to cover up all their 2nd and 3rd banking jobs with the new ruling they have to reveal their other work. yes who forced this rule through before the last election.yes gordon brown.

What is the point of getting angry at something over which, we have no control?
You just keep patting yourself on the back, and congratulating yourself for your clear forsight.......but don't forget that you mentioned NOT ONE WORD of how we got to this parlous fiscal state while those mauve boys were running the country into the ground...spending money that we didn't have.

No...I'm not angry...there is no point to it...none whatsoever, because democracy is just a mirage...an illusion to allow us to think we have some say in our future.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cashman

The system has always been wrong/corrupt Margaret, no doubt, but to me the fact remains,those running the system (Whichever Party) refuse to correct or alter things. So therefore those greedy pigs are to blame.

You are right...but in the past, we the little mushrooms, were fed on Fisons and kept in the dark.
We are more informed now, but we have to realise that information can be used in one of two ways...to help us or to divide us...and while we are fightint one another we have no sense of direction or purpose to fight those who are doing the wrong thing, and are supposed to be governing us...have the countries best interests at heart.
The ground was lost when we linked up to the iniquitous EEC(now the EU).

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

getting angry because everything im predicting with the tories is comming true.no way are they working for more than they were 3 years ago. utilities prices :20% rise inflation 2% rise vat 20% rise your in a dream world.the tories record here we go lol

triple aaa rating lost, unemployment rising ,input down. ha ha now they are all clambering to cover up all their 2nd and 3rd banking jobs with the new ruling they have to reveal their other work. yes who forced this rule through before the last election.yes gordon brown.

Nothing you say has ever come true, it can't, you never say anything, you cut and past a lot but as for meaningful input your clueless, and ignorant in the bargain, now there's a good chap toddle of and have another Bells, make ya feel better

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

No...I'm not angry...there is no point to it...none whatsoever, because democracy is just a mirage...an illusion to allow us to think we have some say in our future.

And some poor suckers think there is a point to it.

[tommiasfc]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

What is the point of getting angry at something over which, we have no control?
You just keep patting yourself on the back, and congratulating yourself for your clear forsight.......but don't forget that you mentioned NOT ONE WORD of how we got to this parlous fiscal state while those mauve boys were running the country into the ground...spending money that we didn't have.

No...I'm not angry...there is no point to it...none whatsoever, because democracy is just a mirage...an illusion to allow us to think we have some say in our future.

Correct the famous "sorry there's no money left we've spent it all" note says it all for me.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

And smug old Ian Duncan Smith says he could live off £7-50 a day if he had too.

Cashy every circus has a clown, I actually saw him say that, think the word I use started with a P and ended with a K, By the way I've actually met this bloke and ended up singing a Shania Twain number, he don't impress me much

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by tommiasfc

Correct the famous "sorry there's no money left we've spent it all" note says it all for me.

The same guy, who left the note was representing Labour on Breakfast TV on Saturday, he started shuffling in his chair when the interviewer asked him about the not, but not to worry Mr ED has all his ducks in a line he's going to help save a public sauna in Nelson, that should keep him busy for a while

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cashman

I aint in government nor well rewarded fer me ideas, Expecting me to tell yeh, is a typical Tory Cop Out.

This is the problem, those with any ideas are not in the place to make them work...and those with no idea are in the POW...smugly watching, while we all struggle.

I have some ideas.
1) stop paying people who have not paid into the system.
2) Stop sending money abroad as foreign aid to support countries who use the money in nefarious ways
3) Any aid money that is given, is to be spent on services/products that originate in the UK.
4) stop paying the vast sums of money into the EU.
5) close the porous Border - count people in and count them out.
6)Foreign criminals deported once they are pronounced guilty and put on a plane back to where they came from.....no messing, no appeals.
7) close the tax loopholes that allow corporations to legally dodge paying their dues here - if they don't like it show them the door. the niche in the market that they leave can be taken up by a British company.
8) Stop paying benefits to the parents of children who do not even reside in this country.
9) cut red tape for businesses.
10) Penalise the banks who do not lend(providing that they have first sought out customers who are not going to default)

I'm sure some of you could think of more ...and probably better ones too.....but those are mine.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

This is the problem, those with any ideas are not in the place to make them work...and those with no idea are in the POW...smugly watching, while we all struggle.

I have some ideas.
1) stop paying people who have not paid into the system.
2) Stop sending money abroad as foreign aid to support countries who use the money in nefarious ways
3) Any aid money that is given, is to be spent on services/products that originate in the UK.
4) stop paying the vast sums of money into the EU.
5) close the porous Border - count people in and count them out.
6)Foreign criminals deported once they are pronounced guilty and put on a plane back to where they came from.....no messing, no appeals.
7) close the tax loopholes that allow corporations to legally dodge paying their dues here - if they don't like it show them the door. the niche in the market that they leave can be taken up by a British company.
8) Stop paying benefits to the parents of children who do not even reside in this country.
9) cut red tape for businesses.
10) Penalise the banks who do not lend(providing that they have first sought out customers who are not going to default)

I'm sure some of you could think of more ...and probably better ones too.....but those are mine.

Yeh but all the money people will make a damn site less n also see the possibility of losing votes, so its as likely to happen as the pope turning Muslim.

[cmonstanley]

how can you implement all these things when theyve paid half the workforce off i know ,pay billions to private firms who cant do the job.