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[The application site is an agricultural field directly opposite Cabin End Row on the southern side of Stanhill Road. The proposed location of the standard agricultural access gate is at the eastern end of the frontage in the stone wall bounding Stanhill Lane and opposite No. 26 Cabin End Row. Observations The application relates to a field on the junction of Stanhill Road and Haslingden Road to the rear of “The Quarry” repair garage. The site is an agricultural field and just outside the urban boundary, on the fringe of the green belt. The field is used for agricultural purposes; access was previously from Haslingden Road through neighbouring land not within the ownership of the applicant. The application is to erect a gate 3.6m wide with associated posts. The gate is a standard field gate of galvanised steel. It will be set back from the footpath on Stanhill Road by approx 3 metres. The application has been fully discussed with the highway authority (Lancashire County Council) and no highway objections have been raised by the authority. The access will be used by agricultural vehicles intermittently and will only create minimal traffic to and from the site. The access will be set back from the main highway allowing the occupier somewhere safe to pull in while opening and closing the gate. Visibility at the proposed gate location is satisfactory and I do not believe that this development will significantly increase traffic problems on the road. The application involves the removal of no more than 4 metres of the wall, which extends the whole length of Cabin End Row. While it is always unfortunate to lose established dry stone wall a minimum length of wall is to be removed and there is a genuine need to provide agricultural access to the field. I do not believe this development will result in the destruction of the micro-climate for the mosses and lichens provided by the wall, as the majority of the wall will remain intact.] The application ref was 11/07/0584 and was recommended for acceptance by the Officers of the Planning Dept, since it has surfaced again as application 11/08/0009. I can only think that the Planning Committee turned the first application down The paragraphs above are taken from planning agenda documents (freedom of information) I do know there is 'agricultural' land for sale in the same area |
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Thanks for finding that info - my son and family live in Stanhill - I don't want the village to have urban sprawl.
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The document is worth reading because it gives full details of the residents objections and fears. It also indicates that some of the land "the old quarry" could contain BLUE asbestos dumped there many years ago. I will post the link to the document in the Homes at Pickle works thread have a read |
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Tis a hobby of mine as well, have had a run in with Planning Dept in the past, so I like to keep myself informed of what is going on, I also check Blackburn with Darwen as well since I now live on the border :D |
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I also check the Blackburn with Darwen website "planning" I find it a lot better than HBC you can find all applications that have been lodged even if they have been withdrawn, all plans/drawings are available to view as is all the planning documentation and neighbours that will be affected by the application.
Compared with the BwD site HBC is in the dark ages View and comment on planning applications : Planning applications : Planning : Housing and planning : Blackburn with Darwen Borough Council Just follow the link. |
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Will be good when HBC are able to put up the actual plans, as Blackburn and Darwen .. instead of having to traipse down town, which I can't do, due to working full time !
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The group of councillors that make up HBC's "Planning Committee" never cease to amaze me, some of the comments they make in the local press are farcical.
The application to demolish the old spring hill WMC and build 10No 2/3 storey houses on the site has yet again been turned down by the committee in spight of the Chief Planning Officer recommending it for acceptance. The comments of Councillors Claire Pritchard & Brian Roberts regarding the application and type of houses is a total joke. Is this to be yet another boarded up building that is left to rot. Club site redevelopment knocked back - News - Accrington Observer On the other hand I see that the committee have passed the plans to convert the church on cannon street in to 16No Flats. I would have thought that would be classed as a high density development given the location of the site, is there enough room on the site to provide "off" street parking for at least 16 cars if not more. I know that the building is in a poor state but converted in to 16No flats :eek: Controversial church flats plan gets OK - News - Accrington Observer It would seem that some of our councillors will stop at nothing to "grab the headlines" and sometimes i think they need to put brain in gear before opening mouth, because some of their quoted statements are laughable To finish on what will be a bitter blow to the residents of stanhill, HBC will not appose the appeal that is to be lodged by Barrett Homes. To quote councillors Pritchard & Roberts we do not want high density shoeboxes, the people of hyndburn deserve better. Is the Barrett development not high density, why are the committee not standing firm and backing the residents. :eek: :eek: :eek: |
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That chunk of land next to the Redcap isn't classed as green belt then? Seems sad that it will become a faceless business estate.
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Yet when you look round at the new empty units/warehouses it makes you wonder why they keep building them. There must now be a surplus of commercial/industrial buildings in and around hyndburn. |
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Oh dear not more apartments.
The latest applications are both by the same company Land off Manchester Rd Baxenden 18 No 2 bedroom apartments 11/07/0816 & 20 No 2 bedroom apartments. 11/07/0819 I wonder what our planning committee will make of these applications http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/site/cu...07TO110108.pdf |
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Already entered on a thread that Rob249 started where he kindly pointed out the proposed Tesco development for the Fire Station in Ossie:-
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/site/cu...08TO250108.pdf Sure you have noticed all the CCTV cameras .. particular interest to our Neil in Rhyddings, but presume he knows about this anyway, and to Gayle, one on the Straits .. mmmm wonder if any pressure from Tesco here and the Fire Station. Not that I am saying 'owt corrupt or anything, but with enough time, money and pressure, developers can pretty much get whatever they want.. :rolleyes: I was interested in the one for the Clayton-le-Moors 'Sports Club' .. middle club to you and me, for ten new dwellings. Seems to be a thriving youth club.. does this mean it will go ? |
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AutoCAD work for a few local contractors, working drawings etc.Keeps the old grey matter going :D |
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There'll be no individual shops left in years to come. There'll be a Tesco in every town and then they'll be able to do what they like with their prices because there'll be no alternative. :( |
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That is a lot of CCTV cameras & columns listed on the application. Are all these going to be linked back to the "central station" or will they be stand alone installations if they are stand alone who will have the job of changing the tape or cd (if it is digi recording). :confused: Anyone in the know |
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They're linked back to the station. From what I understand the one at Union Rd/Straits isn't looking down the Straits but covering Union Rd and the bottom of Rhyddings St.
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Yes, Park more flats !
(Mick can you not put the 'L' back in the thread title ? ..don't want folk to think have a speech impediment ... :D ) 28 > 26 Burnley Road. 4 houses and 6 apartments. (Close to town again .. gotta be a good investment after proposed regeneration takes place) 311 Whalley Road, Clayton-le-Moors and 313/315 ... 6 - 1 bedroomed apartments.. this answers the question of what may be happening to the Lamb Inn. Church: 16 - 3 - storey dwellinghouses, Land bound by Church Street, Florence Street, Lion Street and Steiners Lane. eeew hek .. 3 storey .. wonder if the local residents will have the same opposition as Stanhill ? |
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But what of the comments made by Concillor Claire Prichard " we have enough little boxes and apartments in Hyndburn. The clayton-le-moors application is just that 6 x 1 bed apartments, why not 3x2 bed apartments, or is it another developer on the gravy train just out to make a quick killing. The Church application I think the developer has already been in trouble with HBC for allowing the site to get in to a mess, not sure if they did'nt get fined, would seem that they did Firm fined for neglecting land - News - Accrington Observer The new 3 storey houses would look very well next to the rows of terraced houses Note Councillor Clarke's comment "We want to make Hyndburn the place to be......" ;) |
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Oh yeh, did see that article, just hadn't connected .. does look a mess. (picture in the Observer). I think it would look OK too Park, but will the neighbours ? .. :rolleyes: Not sure re. 3 - 2 bedroomed flats ex. Lamb Inn .. they are very small properties, and maybe the living area that would be provided would not balance with 2 bedrooms for a family. ? Looks like the ground floor would be some sort of communal entrance feature. Can't blame them for profiteering on 1-bedroom flats though, that is what it is all about I suppose. Would be ok in a metropolitan area, whereby the second bedroom could be rented out to a flate mate, but Clayton is not that unfortunately. Main road too. So feel best decision for this developer. |
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I have seen here that some members don't like the idea of 1 bedroom apartments being built.
I live in one, and find that they are ideal housing for the elderly and will enable more of us to live independantly for longer. Our population is changing to having a larger percentage of us 'oldies'. The developers have recognised this need and are attempting to meet it. So why do you groan and say 'more 1 bedroomed apartments!' |
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I dont agree with converting existing housing into flats, because there are bound to be problems with noise. Such accommodation reminds me of the doss houses and student bedsits I visited when working for DHSS.
I can understand nearby residents being annoyed when a development like that gets planning permission in their area. More purpose built 1 bed accommodation is needed, which would free up the 2 bed terraces for small families. I know quite a few persons of my age group who feel burdened by their housing, which is now larger than their needs, is more expensive and tiring to maintain. They despair at the shortage of suitable accommodation, either to buy or rent. Most of those newbuild apartments are expensive and can only attract middle aged couples with no children, who have a 3 bed semi to sell. They are less likely to consider such 'downsizing' as an option. Housing Associations should encouraged to build, readily be given planning consent, and even given financial incentives, to build 1 bedroomed accomodation, for rent. Perhaps when those expensive flats get no buyers, they will be bought by a professional landlord, who will rent them out. Meanwhile we are stuck with a housing stock which does not meet the needs of our changing population and is a source of misery for many. |
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Actually got it wrong on the 1st floor .. is going to be accommodation .. sorry.
Parking ? Mmmm ... not sure if yellow lines there at the moment .. will take a nosey later, but could be a big stumbling block for the developer, although feel he may have looked into this. Certainly yellow lines on the block across the road, often wonder where they park. Some people use the Oddfellow's car park but, of course, is theirs, and don't think much around the back. Ya' never know Margaret .. may be aimed at us 'mature' citizens, who aren't expected to drive ..:rolleyes::D |
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Most of the one bed type are sheltered, I know someone that has just sold his house and moved in to one of those behind the Co-op in Ossy, the flat is very nice and has only one bedroom |
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It looks as though all I said about 'oldie friendly' property has been considered
Today's mail Ministers want all new homes to be 'pensioner-friendly' - with downstairs bathrooms and wider doorways | the Daily Mail |
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"flats, flats, and more flats" If the flats are to be priced at £100,000 each as reported in the local press then I don't think the developer is providing affordable housing, he is just out to make as much money as he can. The lack of parking spaces will just mean more cars parked on the road have the committee thought about the policy document E10 |
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Some good news about the gateway project at Church
Plans To Transform Eyesore Hyndburn Gateway (from Lancashire Telegraph) |
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just seen this in the telegraph, its about time something should be done:D
does this include the derelict buildings nr the P.O on market st, church, and the old warehouse behind? i do hope so, it does look very gloomy over there:( |
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Suppose it depends on whether the owners of the buildings wish to sell or develop Panther .. they will wish to make as much money as possible out of their buildings .. so will be a long haul. As for the buildings near the Post Office ... well, the owner hasn't done much with the Palladium yet, has he . :rolleyes: Notice the Park Plan is getting a little further:- Thumbs-up for park plan - News - Accrington Observer |
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Featured in the 1996 HBC plan as Employment site "U". But look they want to build shops, restaurants/cafes and a gym, and provide emplyment for 2500-3000 people. Details can be viewed in full at Planning Committee - Planning Applications (download the Word document to view) The application 11/03/0608 is a 2003 application, plus there is no indication of who the Developer is...........could it be another Barnfield/HBC development, we will have to see. No doubt it will hit the local Headlines at some point. Wonder what BwD will have to say about that. One access to the site will be from the newly traffic light controlled roundabout at Whitebirk :hehetable |
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It could just work ya' now Park .. in fact, sure it would... not just a pipe dream.
Cannot see anything particularly interesting this month, can you ? 'Cept Mr V. Whitehead to build two new houses on Badge Brow .. needs to sort out his other properties first methinks ! |
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No there is not much of interest this month, but HBC are well out of date with posting the applications on the website, only up to 7/3/08. :eek: |
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How about this one, been a topic previous
Controversial church flats plan gets OK - News - Accrington Observer Looking through the pages of today's LET I find on page 27 headed "commercialproperty" A For Sale notice Cannon Street Baptist Church, Accrington A late 19th Century former church with planning consent for 16 apartments. Also For Sale Oswald House, Rhyddings Street, Oswaldtwistle. An extended late 19th Century building with planning consent for 24 apartments Both adverts are under the same Agent. That is just a good way to make money without all the hassle of doing the actual conversion works. Clever person/s :hothothot |
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See barratt have put plans in for developement of 98 houses, on land and premises on exchange street, accrington, still can't believe councils website hasn't been updated!, pg 51 of observer top right corner.
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Wondered why their website hasn't been updated yet either Rob .. still nothing since 7/3/08. Also decisions postings lagging methinks. Gonna' E-mail them. Re: Cannon Street/Oswald Street .. yes, clever tactic hey Park .. got to find a buyer now... perhaps Tesco will buy Cannon Street for their Executives ... :D:D |
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If i'm right in thinkin it has to be the factory that borders exchange street, fairfield street, as like you say katex, there wouldn't be enough room anywhere else.Just wonder if the residents there will put a fight up like at stanhill, personally speakin, i think it wld be gd move, its a derelict factory, and wld probably just be left to rot as we have seen with other buildings in hyndburn, ie, palladium, old firestation, no doubt someone will kick a fuss up tho!.
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glad to see that two shops at the bottom of burnley road and eastgate are being demolished to be re placed by four houses and a three storey block of flats,
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So each house is going to equate to half a shop, where's the block of flats going :eek: What about car parking, mind the new residents will be able to walk to the £ shops in the centre :D |
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On the subject of Flats/Apartments, it would seem from the article in the LET that the experts feel that to many flats/apartments have been built, and that they will not sell. Investers wo have bought to let, are not able to let, and not able to sell.
Looking at the lastest planning applications on the BwD website it looks very much like the developers have thought about it, so the applications now are for affordable housing.............have the developers seen the light at last? |
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oh my gosh , is that the old t.m.l. place they are thinking of, right accross from me.
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I thought the flats would sell quite well Park, but obviously not then ? Did E-Mail HBC enquiring why delay on Planning Applications/Decisions late. Just got one back to say, had been passed to this department, but so far no explanation from them. I now expect, however, to get a reply just to say they are now up .. await with interest. Only up to the 21/3/08 though. Used to do them every 11 days. |
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I recall there was a small works that made camping trailers there - has that gone now?
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I did see low loaders going in and out of that building several weeks ago, could have been moving all the machinery out. It would have been better if the application had identified the site. It means you would need to visit Scaitcliffe Towers to view te application and attached drawings. At the end of the day if it is right accross from you, its got to be better looking out at new houses than an old factory. |
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Margo in the news again Work Continues On Blackburn Flats Despite Credit Crunch (from Lancashire Telegraph) |
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It's busy there now with the delivery lorries and workers cars arriving, so what's the difference If you read the planning application for the site, you will see it mentions "associated roads" I assume that would be to improve access to and from the site. We don't know if it is that works, it may well be the old Lang Bridges site, then there will be problems on Fairfield street because that building is directly opposite Fairfield Nursery, but also fronts Exchange street. The planning application just indicates Land currently occupied by a manufacturing works Exchange street. |
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Well i walked past there on my way into town today, and looked at both factorys, looking at the one facing the nursery, theres no way you could fit 98 houses on there, just doesn't seem possible, ive never really taken much notice of them before, didn't realise how big the other factory was, my gran also tells me that during the second world war they made munitions there, and they painted the roof green and brown to depict moorland, as nobody was allowed to have any lights on, and there was no street lights, so not to attract german bombers.
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May go in to Scaitcliffe Towers and have a look at the plans.The sooner HBC updates the website to include attached plans the better, people will then be able to view the applications without the need to go in to the Towers. |
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just chipping in here because I don't know your local regulations , but in my area where apartment/flats complexs are constructed the local planning department usually requires that there is at least one designated place for each unit and one visitor parking space for every two units , all these parking spots are off street , maybe something that could be incorporated into planning applications , just an idea.
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I see from the HBC's latest list of planning applications that the old James street working men's club is the subject of a change of use, from WMC to Function rooms.
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/site/cu...08TO040408.pdf HBC are still way behind with the list of applications, they must be over worked :D |
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Basically it was already licenced function rooms. I only ever went there twice, both times to functions. |
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Looks like town centre planning is moving a little ... well, I am optimistic anyway :D:-
15m Accrington Arndale Revamp Set To Be Unveiled (from Lancashire Telegraph) |
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When arndale had the clock (attraction for the kids) and you could buy anything you wanted in town, there was no need for an asda, but accy got one anyway, I still say you could walk around the arndale shops as quick as you could walk around asda, and the bill at the end would be cheaper, the walk more interesting, and less stressful.
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Did you notice the application for the demolition of the existing train station and erection of a new one in the Observer Park ? with various alterations to the car park, wind turnbines, etc. The application no. is 11/8/0217 which was missing from the H.B.C's last list online. |
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As far as the applications go HBC are still way behind on publishing them :confused: |
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Never got a reply to my E-mail re. their late entry of Applications/Decisions. |
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Surely they'd have to create a rail spur for doing that?? Considerable cost it would be too and there's hardly the room for it if a superstore and car-park are going up - so I would personally say that's a non-starter.
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Churchman Phil: Was just a remark by someone, gossip I guess. Will bow to your comment of a 'rail spur' .. not knowledgeable ... :( |
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Store wars on the cards? - News - Accrington Observer |
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Read about this in the Observer
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I would personally prefer to see a Sainsburys in town rather than a Tesco. Have varying products to Asda so not so much competition (although understand this could be good). Might just invite people to take an interest in the Town flats being built. ... people who work on higher salaries, and are a bit snobby about their supermarket. Trying to be careful how I word this .. but could invite other High Street shops to invest in our town.
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The big supermarkets are not in serious competiton in my opinion, they have limits on price reductions, and rarely cut the same prices as each other, it looks to me like they have an 'understanding', how else could they compete properly and still make huge profits like they do?
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They all offer the internet shop from home, delivered to your door. |
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Profits relate to people through the door, and judging by the car parks at both asda & tesco (blackburn) I would assume that they are doing very well, they offer a wide choice of products at what would seem a reasonable price, that is for the distance the product has travelled and the condition it is presented in. I have often wondered, why, why is tesco trying to sell me insurance, why is asda accrington applied yet again for planning permission to install a 4 pump self service petrol station at its accrington store, could it be a service to customers, or could there be a lot more profit in selling petrol & insurance, than in the groceries they sell. |
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May be we should all try here
mySupermarket - Compare Supermarket Prices – MySupermarket the supermarket comparison site To save some money ;) |
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Eeew hek ! had two lots of applications entered since 4th April !! Slight improvement.
One or two of interest:- Tesco have re-applied to demolish the Oswaldtwistle Fire Station and re-erect a convenience store. LOL .. owner of Belmont Farm, Great Harwood .. application to land helicopter on lawn ! Is the area becoming more upmarket ? Former pub on Arnold Street to become 5 apartments .. which pub was this ? Cashy ? Ossy Mills application for the food court at the front. More flats ... 20 new 1 bed-roomed apartments and 2-bed.. Burton Building, Blackburn Road, Accrington. Don't know which building this is ? One near you Margaret R .. Conversion of Hotel/House ? on Higher Heys to convert to 5 flats with a two storey rear. The station one of course. See there is an inquiry into the Tesco at Gt. Harwood. Thought this had been passed, was wrong. Had to laugh, just listened to conversation on Radio re. planning permission .. mainly for the householder. Advice was to look on-line as councils now have the plans there to view ... hummph .. not Hyndburn yet .. :( |
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Think HBC are still way behind on the planning applications on line
Tesco in Ossy, may be this time, they have obviously altered the plans in line with HBC's requirements Helicopter landing pad..........the area must be on the up, wonder if anyone had thought of a landing pad on the top of the new flats at Scaitcliffe it could help to sell them to these higher paid execs :D More and more apartments/flats...........another developer making a fast buck. The inquiry in to the Tesco gt harwood application, the reading in the Observer indicates that it is normal practice on an application such as this, the inquiry is to help the planning committee in reaching the correct decision. http://www.accringtonobserver.co.uk/...ood_tesco_plan I see in the LET the Peel Holdings development continues to cause problems http://www.accringtonobserver.co.uk/...n_centre_plans |
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Te Pub on Arnold St, was the Great Eastern I think Kate
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Well, Alleluia ..actually a few more applications on the web site.. still over a month behind though.. getting mad now and you don't want to see me when I am mad (do rather suit green though LOL).
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/site/cu...08TO160508.pdf All bit boring, gonna' pull down the Pioneer works 11/08/0142 (sob .. many memories of that back.. ;)) .. Eeew, guess what ? More flats ! |
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The fist application reads well " Land between Edgar street & School street" erection of a 3 storey unit, ground floor retail, first floor leisure & office, third floor........wait for it more flats, least the residents would not have far to walk to catch the bus on crawshaw street. Or could it be the owners of the property boosting the value of their holdings in readiness for the "New Bus Station" since the application is only an outline application http://www.accrington.towntalk.co.uk...agecontent=map :130: |
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I like the idea of the bus station on Crawshaw Street, and the present bus station becoming a civic square .. may make room for a better night life walkway, and day time resting place ... as on other threads, always agreed the advantage of wine/coffee bar/bistros on here. |
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Was reading last week in the Obs I think, that HBCs Web Site is now the 8 best in the country or somewhere near that, thats out of over 400 councils, 2 years ago it was in the bottom 10 so must have improved big time |
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Just a question............Does anyone know whats going to happen to the old doctors peel house, on avenue parade?
Noticed some drunks hanging outside it, and swore i seen some dirty bitch peeing up the back near it...:eek: some people have no self respect! |
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