Re: Planning Applications
 

Strange that it be described as a 'private hospital'.
It is yet another nursing home for altzheimers and dementia sufferers.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Ya can go off folk ya know:tongueout

Re: Planning Applications
 

And you stop it off too:D

Re: Planning Applications
 

You know that margaret, we know that, but do HBC know, I wonder sometimes if they really do know what they are doing :confused:

Re: Planning Applications
 

By the way, this will replace the James Street club. They never went ahead with the proposed events' hall.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Could they get 22 bedrooms in James st club :rolleyes:

What's happening at that garage at west end that used to be southerns car sales, it's all clean and painted up...........is it another car wash :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

It will be demolished.

Dunno about Southerns ...never wash me car.. :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Spoil sport :D

Very vivid colours, they have even painted the bollards round the site.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Suppose its a lovely colour of dust then kate:D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Seem to remember was once silver. :)

Re: Planning Applications
 

Next time your going out just let you little finger and rub a small spot on the door that should make sure your right:D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Funny that some cars show the dirt others don't or just seem to "colour fade" as if caused by our weather :)

Re: Planning Applications
 

I had green moss growing on mine after a winter parked under a tree.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Got one of those, it was silver but now green round the grill bit at the front, my wife drives it, and when I say it needs a clean............get the reply, it's your car :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Wonder if she'll tell you "Well, it's your dirty underwear" ... :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

no I get that when we get the electric bill :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Hecky thump !

11/11/0024 Full: Change of use from offices to police 11/02/2011
station
Castle House Eastgate Accrington
Lancashire Constabulary


11/11/0026 Full: Change of use from garage to police 11/02/2011
station

Clock Garage Hyndburn Road
Accrington
Lancashire Constabulary

Re: Planning Applications
 

Kate, Please can you tell me what/where is Castle House? How many Police Stations does Accrington need and where are they getting the money from when everyone is supposed to be cutting expenditure?

Re: Planning Applications
 

Castle House was the Income Tax office. Not big enough for full services of a Police Station, guess sort of operations and offices and near town centre. Makes sense to me. It's a lovely building and pleased may be 'open for business' again... LOL.

No surprise with the garage though on Hyndburn Road ..more room for vehicles, etc.

Will be LCC I presume, (although does just say Lancashire Constabulary) and plans have been going on for some time ... so possibly already accounted for financially.

It is one of our emergency services, and think better facilities are needed.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Nothing wrong with the Police Garage on grange lane,plus I thought all police worked out of Greenbank for accrington

Re: Planning Applications
 

Its a car wash and valet now, wonder if they will need planning permission for change of use.

Hey its cheap as well :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

'Course I am only speculating, Park .. really need to see the plans on this one (hurry up HBC and get them up as promised).

Don't suppose would be one or t'other do you ? Nah, guess that would be too expensive to submit plans for an alternative ?

Re: Planning Applications
 

Why do they need 2 sites in Accrington, thought they were on a "big cut" in staff to make the savings that we keep hearing about.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Dunno. Will have to wait until more information is revealed. Sure the press will be onto it soon.

In the meantime, they are losing their canteen:

Lancashire Police canteens to close in cuts (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Re: Planning Applications
 

I am sure they will, thought you may have gone down to scaitcliffe towers to view the applications :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Should really ... :o

Re: Planning Applications
 

Shouldn't be that difficult to pick up Donuts & Coffee ! If they have to walk into Greggs at least it'll look like they've put Plods back on the beat in the Town (Bonus or what) ! :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Never mind once HBC get their finger out, we will be able to view all the plans, the good, the bad, and the others :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Good thinkin,you may be able to sell them that idea, a saving on petrol as well :)

Re: Planning Applications
 

Thanks Kate, now know where you mean, have seen the place but didn't know the name.:)

Pardon my ignorance Park but where is Greenbank? - both of us have been away a long time so we haven't a clue:D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Any planning applications for the TESCO next to the Railway Stn yet Kate? ;)

Re: Planning Applications
 

Do you know where the old Norweb dept was, or the old B&Q that is now the Range well Greenbank adjacent to them its on an old "Tip" Or across from the old Power Station (Currys, PC World and the rest)

Re: Planning Applications
 

Haven't Southerns Car Sales moved into the old Fraser Eagle Car Sales showroom on Argyle St / Milnshaw lane?

Castle House should be big enough for a Police Station I would have thought, but no cells there.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Cells shouldn't be the problem, hardly lock anyone up these days, cutbacks.:rolleyes:

Re: Planning Applications
 

And your a bit past it these days cashy:D:D

Re: Planning Applications
 

11/11/0071 Full: Change of use of working men's club17/02/2011
to assembly and leisure (Use Class D2) together with removal of external wall
cladding and enlargement of exit door

22/24 Pioneer Club,
Bradshaw Row,
Church,
Accrington.
Mr N Qureshi

A second planning application by this gentleman:

Mr P Halai

This was the original:

11/09/0403 Full: Proposed extension to side to form 18/11/2009
function room/restaurant (ground floor) with three apartments at first floor including
internal alterations and two-storey extension
to rear for means of fire escape
Merry England Public House Clayton Street Great Harwood


Mr P Halai

Which was turned down:

20Harwood.pdfhttp://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/site/custom_scripts/planapps/decisions/219/11%2009%200403%20-%20Merrie%20England%20Public%20House%20Clayton%20S treet%20Great%20Harwood.pdf

Re: Planning Applications
 

They've done it Park !!!!! :smilingfa Really cool, take a look.

Has a new format, which will take a little time to get used too, however, seems O.K. to me !

Re: Planning Applications
 

Can't find Planning Decisions now though .. . maybe being updated ?

Re: Planning Applications
 

S'ok ... sorted that now ... tracks through the same format. :o

Re: Planning Applications
 

11/11/0071 Full: Change of use of working men's club17/02/2011
to assembly and leisure (Use Class D2) together with removal of external wall
cladding and enlargement of exit door

22/24 Pioneer Club,
Bradshaw Row,
Church,
Accrington.
Mr N Qureshi





Reading the name of the chap applying and the nature of the proposed future use I am a bit suspicious of it. Maybe a big green dome and a loud speaker will be involved or maybe I am just being pessimistic.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Think you might be, Gremlin.
Nothing on these plans to suggest a dome ...just think a function room as stated for weddings, celebrations, etc.

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...df&pageCount=1

Re: Planning Applications
 

Re: Planning Applications
 

After reading your comment had to have a look , got to agree can't believe they were drawn up by a professional , looks like someone has been learning how to use a drafting program . Would make me suspect the validity of the Architects 'stamp'

another question , why is there no urinal in what I presume to be the "Gents" (the toilet facility with 5 stalls ) :confused: :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

The '5 stalls' is the ladies room - the gents is the one with 2 stalls and 2 urinals.

I am familiar with the interior of the Pioneer club.

As an afterthought - since those stalls are positioned in differing directions (90degree difference) - which ones are 'offending Mecca'?
There were rumours that toilets in some new housing had to be repositioned because of that.

Re: Planning Applications
 

if thats the case where are the washbasins where you can wash your hands ,........ appreciate its in Church but still .. ;)

Re: Planning Applications
 

In the ladies you can see a long worktop with two circles (basins) situated opposite the cubicle doors.

I never actually went in the gents - and you are right - there don't seem to be any basins.

Re: Planning Applications
 

The real problem with this scheme - if it does go ahead - will be that of parking. While there are a few spaces opposite the entrance to the club, these would be insufficient for the people whould be expected for a large function. When it was the club, of course, it was local and as such most people walked there at 8pm and staggered home at 11.30pm.

The nearest street is Tanpits Road, which as some of you are aware is now a rat-run between Henry St & Blackburn Rd (avoiding the lights). It's bad enough now, but if you are going to get double parking at night, it will be a nightmare and it won't be long before someone is killed.

As regards the Mosque deal, there is one already in the building which used to house the happy-clappy chapel and which was previously the site of the York St Co-op (that's going back 50 years or so). Because it has been designated a place of worship, then no planning permission is now required (although a mineret will be another story).

Re: Planning Applications
 

Parking has been the problem with a few of these schemes put forward as per James Street Club ... this is the letter from the Chartered Surveyor ... see last paragraph. Methinks the Surveyor doth protest too much.

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...df&pageCount=1

Re: Planning Applications
 

Eh? Where the hell is he getting his ample car parking spaces from? Hyndburn Sports Centre?

Re: Planning Applications
 

Seems they have let this through:

Blackburn mosque dome is set to remain (From Lancashire Telegraph)

I hate these domes ... they are a complete blot on the landscape, tacky, blingy and totally out of character with the surroundings (rant over).

Re: Planning Applications
 

What does the article say......
A petition with more than 1,000 signatures has been submitted to Blackburn with Darwen Borough Council calling for permission to be rejected.
The petition claims the dome was built “illegally” and objects to the number of mosques already in the town.
However, the application, by the Masjid-E-Saliheen mosque committee, is set to be approved when the planning committee, chaired by Labour’s Jim Smith, meets on Thursday evening.
In their assessment, planning bosses said the dome was a “prominent addition” to the building but did not detract from the local skyline.

I like that, "did or should it not be - does not detract from the local skyline" where are they looking, the thing is next to a childrens play area. The "dome" stands out like a sore thumb. It's great to be British :eek:

Re: Planning Applications
 

Yes, sorry .. it did say expects to be passed, as recommended. Will see.

And 'sore thumbs' hurt, don't they, just like my eyes bleed when I see these monstrosities :(

Re: Planning Applications
 

Oh heck, a local surveyor, not making many friends is he :rolleyes:

Re: Planning Applications
 

Whats going on on the "Remade Area" behind the Tanpits Club

Re: Planning Applications
 

Is Tanpits Club not the Pioneer Club ? Not sure.

Re: Planning Applications
 

This is interesting, car parking and access standards :D

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...ember_2010.pdf

Re: Planning Applications
 

Think so, the area in question is the large area of grassed land that is fenced and locked off, entrance on Henry st, the area is full of site cabins etc. not seen any planning applications :confused:

Re: Planning Applications
 

Eeek hek, it is, thank you. Are you thinking of this entry ?

D2 Assembly and
Leisure
Cinemas, bingo
and casinos,
conference
centres, music
and concert halls
1 per 5 seats

Re: Planning Applications
 

That's a seperate deal about water/sewerage works.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Could be, it sure will stop them in their tracks :mosher:

Re: Planning Applications
 

Ah so they are going to dig a big hole in the Remade in Lancahire area then, might they find an old mine shaft........."TanPits" :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Does anyone know who currently owns unit 6 on Broadway? There is an application from Costa Coffee for an external sign.

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...df&pageCount=1

Re: Planning Applications
 

Can anybody confirm or deny the rumour about the Regency opening as a Wetherspoons pub?

Re: Planning Applications
 

British Heart Foundation Shops

Unit 6, Broadway, Accrington, Lancashire BB5 1EY

Re: Planning Applications
 

Its not right cleaver when one bloke starts shouting from it 5 times a day either Kate:rolleyes:

Re: Planning Applications
 

'Outline Planning' requested for another police building.
Getting confused now. Is 'divisional' the key word ?

Application No:11/11/0025Registration Date:14 Mar 2011Location:DIVISIONAL POLICE HEADQUARTERS SPRING GARDENS ACCRINGTONDevelopment:Outline application: Erection of two-storey police station following demolition of existing buildings (the site falls within a conservation area)

Case File

By the way .. I didn't put that smiley in there .. .just appeared ? :confused:

Re: Planning Applications
 

Think this could be quite good, Accysimon, they are always popular.
Still can't have a fag with yer brew though, except they have been known to put tables outside.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Looks as if they are getting rid of the vehicle mantainance unit & garage. Probably going to turn it into the HQ and do away with the existing cop shop. Good to know who those cars belong to that create the hazard at the junction of Wellington St & Nuttall St.
Beats me where all the owners are, you seldom see them on the street in uniform.
Retlaw.

Re: Planning Applications
 

What about the two previous applications, the old Tax office and the building on Hyndburn road, does that mean we will have 3 police stations in Accrington, or can they not make their minds up where they want to live :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Dunno' Park ...as wise as you. If you look at the letter though, they are just trying to see if they could get change of use. Also, no cells in this building, so would need another. :idunno:

Re: Planning Applications
 

Do they not have to pay a fee with each application...............that's a lot of fees to be paid. Cells are they not a Greenbank, why do they need any more, a quick van ride is all that's needed. Seen a few cells in my time................whilst working of course. :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Yes, fees have to be paid.

Glad you added that last bit ..LOL.

Didn't know the cells weren't operative at Manchester Road anymore. Because they have mentioned no cells on Grange Lane ...maybe they intend to have them now at Castle House ?

Re: Planning Applications
 

Perhaps they are going back in time to the days of the small stations and police houses. :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Have just been viewing Hyndburn's planning application for Rhyddings Park "walled garden and victorian glass house"

Case File

Looks good, it would be nice to see it all restored. :)

Re: Planning Applications
 

Thanks Park, was looking out for that one ... missed it.

Well done to Neil and Co. on this ... that park is shaping up beautifully. :thumbsup:

Re: Planning Applications
 

Looking that good I could move back over there :D

Re: Planning Applications
 

Was mentioned to me that cells have to be bomb proof ... so is that is why they state no cells on Grange Lane ?

Should think Castle House is well built though ..looks it.

Re: Planning Applications
 

This is interesting... can't quite get my head around it, although looking at the pictures of Thompson Court .. .is a mess, and any improvement welcome. Not sure that I would wish to live there though .. but that is subjective. Just outline at the moment.

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...ber=11/11/0131

Application No: 11/11/0131
Registration Date: 31 Mar 2011
Location: THOMPSON COURT OFF BANK STREET ACCRINGTON
Development: OUTLINE APPLICATION ACCESS, LAYOUT, ANS SCALE APPLIED FOR. ERECTION OF 4 DWELLINGS.

Documents

Re: Planning Applications
 

No the police cells just need to be idiot proof and comply with home office directives, cost a lota to build

Re: Planning Applications
 

Its directly opposite Accrington Blind Society, the existing shops are in a poor state, it would be a good development if it gets the go ahead. Although Accrington may loose some on stree parking - Bank street.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Don't think so, Park .. did you see the layout .. parking has been taken into consideration in the courtyard. It's not the shops .. look at the plans .. behind the shops down that alley.

Re: Planning Applications
 

The site boundary fronts on to Bank street, the existing shops are being altered, take another look at it, ground floor and site plans, Blue Sky Architects, formally known as Grimshaw & Townsend Eagle street Accrington. OK so Bank street parking should still be available

Re: Planning Applications
 

It is confusing ... application for only the four dwellings though.


Who is this Mr. Lamb, I wonder, who owns that land ?

Re: Planning Applications
 

This area was once featured in a Retlaw quiz.(which I solved)
I have looked at those plans - they are two sets of SINGLE bedroomed semis, with their own parking area, all accessible through that ginnel.
It would only take one careless car parker on Bank St to make them inaccessible.
Single bed accommodation is in demand in an ageing population - but not where you have stairs

Re: Planning Applications
 

Yes, remember Retlaw's quiz .... surprised he hasn't commented ...he is the expert on the court yards.
It looks like there could be an issue re. the style not fitting in with the surroundings.
Think they will put some very heavy warnings about parking across the entrance but, like you say, are some inconsiderate drivers out there.
Suspect they will not be aimed at the elderly ... more young couples ?
Anyway, they say is best to have stairs for elderly people, keeps the joints working.. LOL.

By the way, did you get as far as looking at the 'bat' report? Has some 'photos of the present condition of this site. Love those reports ... very informative.

Re: Planning Applications
 

I hadn't, but have now - some interesting pics there.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Bank street and all areas round are part of the Town centre conservation area

http://www.urbed.coop/journal_docs/A...r%202part1.pdf

Re: Planning Applications
 

Work has started. Earth moving equipment woke me early today.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Not to early I hope margaret.
From the planning permission
No construction development or delivery of materials shall take place outside the hours of
07:30 hours to 18:00 hours Monday to Friday
08:00 hours to 13:00 hours on Saturday
No construction development or delivery of materials on Sundays or Public holidays

Re: Planning Applications
 

They are doing it right :)

Re: Planning Applications
 

Bridge that gap. Looks like this has been applied for in the past, but time was running out for the applicant.

08 Apr 201111/11/013822/24 SPENCER STREET ACCRINGTON BB5 6SY Current

Good to see that one cricket team are still solvent enough to provide better changing facilities :

07 Apr 201111/11/0137OSWALDTWISTLE IMMANUEL CHURCH CRICKET CLUB NEW LANE OSWALDTWISTLE Current

Re: Planning Applications
 

They must have a sugar daddy Kate, they were struggling for years when I was involved:rolleyes:

Re: Planning Applications
 

I spoke too soon -
A 20 wheeler flatbed wagon with crane attached is trying to deliver now (6.15pm)
The site closed and workmen left about 4pm, so the driver is coping by crane lifting the stuff over the fence.

He is blocking access to the allotment car park, so people are parking on the road, which doesn't leave enough space for him to reverse back out when he has finished - oh dear!

Re: Planning Applications
 

Surely you must have been expecting something like this to happen, pretty sure i would have been. :D:D

Re: Planning Applications
 

That's why I moved my car from the road frontage at weekend.
That driver managed (carefully) to make his exit just before 7pm.
The work going on is interesting to watch from my 1st floor vantage point.
This late delivery didn't 'disturb my peace' - it would be nice if they took a longer lunch break because I am missing my midday nap, but it is good to see sports facilities being improved.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Can I just say I found this comment rather interesting. The Grimshaw mentioned used to live in Owl Hall! This architects was originally on Willow Street, almost facing the steps of the Mechanics Institute, now the Registrars.
(and ... not too sure on this, but will check, think the Townsend was connected to Joan Pompret, the poet who lived at the house known as Stoops, near Harwood Bar in Great Harwood). The Townsend certainly wrote books on FISHING, cos I have a copy of one, thanks to Bob Dobson).

Re: Planning Applications
 

Somebody not giving up on the Bridge Inn at Church :

15 Apr 201111/11/0147BRIDGE INN 135 HENRY STREET CHURCH ACCRINGTON BB5 4EPCurrent

Extensions and boundary walls, etc., improvements.

Re: Planning Applications
 

Just testing .. the Planning Applications are now showing a 404 error document ?

Re: Planning Applications
 

^^^ Park talks about the West End Garage.
This is on the Enforcement notice for presentation at tomorrow's planning meeting...whoops.


11.059

Re: Planning Applications
 

Nice one, but they do a good job on cleaning car :alright: