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I thought they would be paying you Neil ... :rofl38:

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Yuk Panther .. the mind boggles.:rolleyes:

Haven't seen any applications for Peel House .. but who knows ... the public is not getting to know .. certainly through their web-site anyway!.

Have you noticed any paperwork in the windows/on the door ?

As for being amongst the top 8 ...am speechless ... is because it looks pretty or something. Their search facilities are rubbish.

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Actually got another lot, but only up 'til 18th June .. closing the gap a little.

Mostly private applications, 3 that may be of interest, expect half of you may know about them anyway:-

The Queens in Church has an application to become a doctor's surgery .. Dr. P.K. Joseph.

352/352 a Union Road ... wine bar with 2 flats over the top (Mr. D. Yates .. LOL) Well, wouldn't like to live over that one.. . Not sure where this is .. anybody ?

A further application for No. 8 Union Road ... that's where the kitchen place was ... dance/drama studio. Excellent.

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352 Union Road is between the Rose And Crown Pub, and the Chinese Chippy, can't pin it down any further kate, just going off an old electoral register

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Yeh, couldn't believe my eyes, but nothing in the last lot of interest I don't think.

They had the decisions up to 200 but now have to go through Abode Reader which I updated as requested (not good at this). Now when I try to take a look, still keeps asking me to do this ?

That's a shame re. Cannon Street, didn't think it would have been a bad addition to the town .. better than a crumbling church any day .. looks like the developers ran out of money.

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Think it may be a matter of trying to cut their loses kate, if they did the church up and made these flats they may just have been left with them the way the housing market is at the moment

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The Pioneer works building itself isn't coming down, at least not yet. They won't sell. Its the units behind it that the plans apply to.

Wish it was coming down, live accross from it and it's a total eyesore.
Who in their right mind want's to live behind that and overlooking a railway line?????

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I take it that it was ok when you moved in, unless your not in your right mind ;)

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I don't overlook the railway line, these houses will, the 3 storeys especially! Also now they will be behind that factory.
And sometimes people have to move to places for other reasons ya know, you take what you can when you are desperate! :) Wouldn't be here otherwise.:(

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Wow, HBC has finally updated the planning applications, think they are nearly up to date.

This is a surprise, applications from Peel Holdings at the Whitebirk Retail Park

Applications 11/08/0454/0455/0457/0458 all for full mezzanine floors in existing units.

Is this a way for Peel Holdings to increase the number of retail otlets by 4 without increasing the foot print of any of the units or building more units.

These are very interesting applications, how will HBC's planning comittee deal with them :hehetable

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/site/cu...08TO220808.pdf

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Thanks Park .. did look Tuesday, and all nearly domestic which reflected the housing market.

See what you mean .. well done, they are looking for another way around aren't they for previous planning developments rejected.. :rolleyes:

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Hek, honoured ... a few more.

Only ones of interest are outline planning permission for some more houses in:-

Great Harwood. The old site of the football ground and Monroe's nightclub.
37 houses and 12 apartments.
Think this is a good position actually, and could make quite a tidy estate.
What actually happened to the Football Club, did they just run out of money?

Rishton: York Mill, York Street. 31 houses and 8 apartments.

Some builders obviously still optimistic about selling houses.

Hey Cashy .. looks like you are going to get an open porch to the entrance at Sydney Street ... bit of cover for having a ciggie maybe ?

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covered porch out back kate already wi heater.:D;)

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Oh yeh, forgot ... maybe porch just for fancy then ?

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maybe its just fer me, aint time to nip out back when i'm working.:D;)

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interesting one by hyndburn homes to demolish 37 garages and build 3 bungalows next to st pauls school.

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Noticed an outline applicaton for industrial units on the Nori Brick works site ... now they did say they may resume operations in 12 months, doesn't sound like it to me, unless only part of the site.

Someone applied to demolish the Petrol Station at Harwood Bar to construct 45 extra care apartments.

Yawn, yawn ... a Mr. Rashid requiring permission to open a hot take away at 344. Union Road, Oswaldtwistle.

And this :-

11/08/0640 Outline application: Construction of Coach Road Meadow Coach Road
28/11/2008
Environmental Business Park comprising Oswaldtwistle
industrial units (22,500 sq ft/2,090.25 sq m)
Timber Yard and buildings, office building
for applicant, 4 No eco-houses, bio-mass
heating plant, 4 No wind turbines and
provision of open space
The Prospects Foundation

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Well, looks like they are up for selling it off Park, seems to be the whole site.

Hey, they up to the 19th December now !! Blimey.

The only one that interests me is this one:-

11/08/0624 Outline Application: Residential Development

Woodnook Mill Mount Street 11/12/2008
Accrington
Lastberry Ltd

As this was the mill that was owned by the last company I worked for and, up until recently, contained their bleaching works, warehousing and hemming department .. would be interested to see if this application includes demolition. It is a very old mill and would need plenty of work. Good that there is some sort of application though and not just leaving it to deteriorate.

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It would seem so kate, may be frazer eagle are just using the site whilst the application is sorted out.
The planning dept. must have been working overtime :D


Seems a strange one in view of the slow down of new build, are they looking to get outline planning then sell on, make a quick profit :confused:

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Who is Graham Jones !!! thought he was peel park ward. Is he a planning expert ???? :rolleyes:

May be they have owned the building for several years, but they could have a problem now. correct me if I am wrong but, do they not have now to pay "Council Tax" even if the building is empty !!!!!! ;)

Happy New Year kate and to all Accy Webbers

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Leave him alone Kate - he must have had a few pints of his girlie cider and blackcurrent by that time ;)

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What you trying to say Kate, that our Graham is incoherent:eek::eek::eek:never:D

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Did you not know park, Graham is everything to all men

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Think he heads the Planning Committe Park.

Not sure re. the council tax bit .. probably correct.

Happy New Year to you too .. x

Thought you might step in on this one ... LOL
Would I suggest that ? Translated as "not in the near future", I presume. Or maybe "no comment". :D

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Graham saying no comment,that will be a first:rolleyes:

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There you go I thought PB's crew headed up the planning committee. :D

names that spring to mind Clarke, Haworth, Roberts. think they are well represented on that committee. think of all those ex's

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Application to pull down the Post Office at Church :-

11/09/0012 Conservation Area Consent: Demolition of building and landscaping.
9A Market Street Church 13/01/2009
Accrington BB5 0DP
Mr Iqbal Patel

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Not sure which land you mean Park .. if Blackburn Road Accrington .. can only pick up what I read. As you say can't be long before they will be getting on with Phase 2 if not already started. This was the last I read :

Accrington revamp scheme go-ahead (From Lancashire Telegraph)

As for the new Regeneration Officer, suspect is all part of the Elevate money and tied up too with the Barnfield/Peel Park make-over.

Lots of council properties still empty, which could have a face list to give people affordable housing, alongside new builds tied up with more pleasant surroundings.

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Thanks for the link kate, missed that one, not like me.

As you say kate a make over for the existing empty council properties may get them occupied and taken off the 2,000 + empty property register.

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That surprises me because only a few weeks ago Hynburn Homes were congratulating themselves on the turnaround/empty rate here-
Contour Housing - Hyndburn Homes Social Housing, Regeneration and Community News & Events Details

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My recent experience as detailed in this thread
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ent-44973.html

leads me to think that their delight at being audited as 'fair' by the Audit commission

Contour Housing - Hyndburn Homes Social Housing, Regeneration and Community News & Events Details

is an excercise in boosting staff morale. Especially as there are only 4 grades of performance and 'fair' is 3rd :rolleyes:

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That's what I thought until this story appeared, and the fact emerged that Hyndburn is one of the boroughs with the highest unoccupied property figures in the country.

Specialist officer appointed to tackle Hyndburn's 2,000 empty homes (From Blackburn Citizen)

There's so much spin going on it's wonder there's anyone left standing at H.B.C.

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Does not sound or look very good margaret, have you spoken to any of our local councillors about your problems.

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Now that my home is not a council house, I think that approach would be futile.
The situation was worse when it was - at least now I have hope of improvements

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It would be futile Margaret, HH may not be council owned but they still have a vested interest, and your councillor ill take up your case for you if asked

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See Asda have begun the filling station, after amendments to Planning Applications, plus 'improvements to car park', which I presume will include the bus station. So be aware .. a little disruptive at the moment.

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He is going to create an empty properties database. Surely they shouldn't be admitting to that given that empty properties are still liable for council tax. Does this mean the council tax database is flawed?

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My thoughts as well lancsdave, just what is this guy going to do, and how much will he being paid. :confused:

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To be quite honest Park being able to find the owners of Empty properties is not as straight forward as you may think, most empty properties are in the private sector and find out who owns them can at times be an absolute nightmare

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Think you can tell the Council ones though Jaysay, they put some sort of silver lining and mesh (?) at the windows.

Private ones must be a nightmare though.

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Are owners not registered with the Land Register?

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I thought that too, the deeds have to be held somewhere.

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Believe me Bernie it ain't quite that simple, I tried to find he owners of a property on Roe Greave Road and it was a nightmare, you can find some through the land registry, but not all

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Thanks Jaysay just thought the owner of the house was always registered

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I don't think that's so easy too Park, would be ideal granted, but before you can put a CP order on a property you've got to know who owns the flaming property. Mind you its few years since I was involved (about 8 to be precise) so things could have changed, but I now property was a complete nightmare back then:eek:

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They are now up to 30/1/09 .. so credit where credit is due... thank you H.B.C. for keeping us more up-to-date, however very little in the last two terms, which probably reflects the economy at the moment. i.e. best of interest is just tidying up the trees around the war memorial at Ossy.

11/09/0035 Works to Trees - T1 (Ash), T2 (Lime), T3 War Memorial Rhyddings 26/01/2009
(Beech), T4 & 5 (Sycamore), T6 & 7 Street/Union Road
(Elder), T8 (Rowan), T9 & 10 (Poplar) and Oswaldtwistle
T11 (Birch)
Hyndburn Borough Council

Can you see anything else Park ?

Wish it were easier to link up the decisions to the original applications though.

On a self-indulgent note, my 26 year old son Jamie almost made it to 'Young Planner of the Year' this week .. an award through the RTPI. Like he said " being 2nd place is just dirt place loser", still proud though.

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oh yeah Katex, thats just reminded me... they have taken a load of trees down behind woodnook school and it looks like they are building on there...any ideas what they are doing?

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Can't just find anything Emamum, depends if the land belongs to Woodnook school ? May have to look back to 2007.

Only thing is this, but won't be that and can't see that permission has been granted as yet to this canopy. There again, decisions may be behind on their web site. :-

11/08/0227 Erection of a canopy shelter to main entrance Woodnook Primary Hudson 28/04/2008
area Street Accrington

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There was a planning application approved. the meeting of the planning commitee on 7 January 2009 for some land off South Street Accrington, which is possibly the area you are thinking of (I know it is in Woodnook - but as it is not in my ward nit too sure of the exacty location). The area has been a 'garden'.


http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...ons_report.pdf

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Thanks for that link Claytonender .. never found that before.

South Street only appears to be outline Planning Permission at the moment, so doubt it. Not sure exactly where Emamum is talking about.

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For anyone who is interested the next meeting of the planning commitee is next Wednesday 19th February.

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Do these meetings still take place during the day claytonender

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Are you just testing if we are paying attention? Wednesday is the 18th :D

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In reply to Jaysay - yes the meetings do take place during the day usually at 2.30pm

In reply to Neil, I was having a 'senior' moment you are quite correct it is on Wednesday 18th @ 2.30pm.

Link to agenda
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...209_Agenda.pdf

Link to applications being considered by the committee on the Wednesday 18th
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...riefing_1_.pdf

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I was looking at my shift rota and thought they had messed it up again :D

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Has been nothing but private applications for the last three months, apart from ramp for the disabled at Accington Cricket Club to the bar (sure Lindsay knows about this :D).

Just a few you may be interested in :-

11/09/0106 Listed Building Consent: Change of use at Accrington Market Hall Peel Street, Accrington 12/03/2009
balcony level from traders storage rooms and
former bus office to retail (A1) cafe (A3)
business (B1) and exhibition space (D1) and
internal alterations including extension of
existing balcony floor installation of stairs
and DDA compliant passenger lift
Quarterbridge Project Management

11/09/0102 Discharge of condition No. 3 of 11/06/0208 The Bandstand Oak Hill Park 13/03/2009
Manchester Road Accrington
BB5 2BN
Hyndburn Borough Council

11/09/0100 Change of use from shop (A1) Oxfam to college information centre 54 Broadway
Accrington BB5 1EW
Mr Stephen Carlisle

No building applications yet but think, according to sources, may be picking up a little, now they have consolidated, cut down costs e.g. redundancies, can begin to look at further projects.

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Next lot ... think I should win an award for most boring thread, however, will plod on. Where's me mate Park .. come back honey, all is forgiven ... LOL:-

11/09/0098 Erection of 9m high Wind Turbine Accrington Academy Queens Road West
Accrington Lancashire 18/03/2009
BB5 4FF
Lancashire County Council and Catalyst Lend Lease

Love these.

11/09/0120 Change of use of land to form car park Land adjacent Union Road 20/03/2009
Oswaldtwistle
Lancashire County Council

Where's this ?

11/09/0105 Erection of 4 No. two-storey dwellings 14 - 16 Bamford Crescent 19/03/2009
together with associated car parking Accrington BB5 2PQ
Mr Marcus Serene

Who the hell has a name like Marcus Serene ??

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My guess is at the side of the Theatre.

Thats the land that LCC sold and are now buying back again. Your tax money hard at work :rolleyes:

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Anyone read todays LET, page 15 the article headed Planning office 'is weak'
May be the planning committee made up of butchers, bakers, and candlestick makers should follow the direction of the Technical Officers of the Council who are qualified planners. All to often you read of an application where the technical officers have recommended an application be passed, but the committee in their wisdom turn it down.


In the LET article PB blamed opposition councillors
Any further ideas as to why the %age of successful appeals rose from 26.7% to 41.1%. That is some increase.

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I think this post is in the correct thread since the article is about housing market renewal/regeneration

Here we have another example of jobs for the boys, a "basic" salary of £140,000. for the new boss of the 'Super council'

East Lancs 'super council' chief named (From Lancashire Telegraph)


Looks like we are to have a Pennine Lancashire council/committee made up of representatives from six borough councils as well as lancashire county council..................yet more expenses for the lucky ones :rolleyes:

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Hello.......... i'm back :D

whats that for............show :rolleyes:


Off Manchester road.Streetmap.co.uk- search results for bb5 2pq

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Was hoping it was .. much needed parking for the theatre. Wonder what is the difference between their selling price and buying price then ?

Still, expect the money they made from selling in the first place was needed at the time for more desperate needs ?

[quote=park381;697834]Hello.......... i'm back :D


Hi Park ... thought you had dropped of the Earth.

Re. the increased appeals, you are not possibly suggesting that the elected officers are turning Planning Applications down for political gain are you ?LOL.

Sure there could an element of this at times.

However, what the LET has omitted to say is the actual increase in the number of appeals .. well, might have, haven't seen the article.

In 2006>2007 15 appeals were launched. 11 disallowed, 4 allowed.
In 2007>2008 17 appeals were launched.10 disallowed, 6 allowed, 1 split decision.

So not many are there really? Not really a percentage increase really, just percentage increase against the number of planning applications.

Have a look at this to see if you agree :-

http://www.planning-inspectorate.gov...and_report.pdf

Against other authorities, we don't appear to have that high a percentage really.

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No the LET only quoted %ages Looks worse that way :D
The cost of those appeals = £49,000+ could well have been spent on something more worth while don't you think.

Good info in that report kate. HBC's formar Chief Planning Officer is now with the Planning inspectorate

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[quote=katex;697628]

11/09/0098 Erection of 9m high Wind Turbine Accrington Academy Queens Road West
Accrington Lancashire 18/03/2009
BB5 4FF
Lancashire County Council and Catalyst Lend Lease




whats that for............show :rolleyes:




Don't you like wind turbines .. I think they are bootiful !
May have been some sort of condition to allow it to go through?

Funny though, how authorities view applications in a different way.
Son has just related a story in the Planning magazine with regard to Biomass power (yeh, know where they use rotting fruit, etc, and produces methane gas to power turbines).

Cardiff had an application for one on their docks, but was turned down as thought it was too near populated areas .. like wouldn't be pleasant for residents to have wagons rolling up with this 'fuel'.

The authority next to them turned a similar application down because was too far away from population, and difficult to power to residents ! Seems about a third of power is lost due to power plants being miles away from residents.

Ironic ... :D

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We could all have an opinion on where monies could be better spent Park, but we have to have a system, and it stands at :-

1. Goes to Planning Office.
2. Submitted to Planning Committee.
3. Re-submission if unsuccessful.

Can go higher up, of course, if affecting National interest to Secretary of State.

Just wonder where they pulled out the figure from exactly; they do also make money on planning applications too.

LOL. missed the bit where PB was blaming the opposition.
Hope G Jones will come on in defence as he is now on the panel ...:D

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This they may have been better on a new thread ... our members love knocking people earning more than they think they deserve ... :D

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[quote=katex;697883]Thought the application had only just gone in, and not been before the committee yet.
As for not liking wind turbines, I do not think they are the answer to the problem.
Like those on scout moor, crown point and now hapton, they don't run when the wind blows.
Think residents living near to whinney hill could tell you a thing or two about methane gas.
They do have 2/3 CHP units burning methane and producing electricity up there, so not all the gas is escaping :)

Not all biomass boilers burn "rotting fruit" some burn woodchip and or wood pellets, in fact I think Lancashire county council may have installed some in their schools

Remeha Commercial Site UK: Biomass Range : Biomass Range

Remeha Commercial Site UK: News details[tt_news]=45&tx_ttnews[backPid]=338&cHash=ba2499666e

Even though the wood is from a sustainable source the woodchips, pellets have got to be manufactured ?

I don't know what the answer is but I don't think wind farms are the answer

The installation of the CHP units at whinney hill is a step in the right direction, since the tip is a good source of methane gas and will be for several years.

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Believe Biomass is very popular in Mexico .. OK .. just thought I would add that useless info. :)

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Haven't been down there for a couple of months, but will take a look next time. Was too busy negotiating the cars parked opposite each other, and on pavements. Now, that did remind me of Blackburn Road.

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Yeh, guess they will take time for these to get through Park, probably due to local objections.

See that the Owl Hall planning appeal has now been upheld, and can now go ahead for 'Refurbishment of hall and cottage to 2 dwellings, and erection of 3 new dwellings, landscaping and car parking'

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...als_report.pdf

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To answer my own question, yes it would seem that the technical officers recommended acceptance of the application


http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...r_briefing.pdf

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LOL .. spent quite a time looking for this, found it, then realised you had found it yerself.

Doesn't look like Tesco are going to give up for store at Gt. Harwood, even though was turned down by Secretary of State. Once they get their teeth into something, won't let go ... Rottweiler jaws.

11/09/0145 Erection of Retail Superstore (Class A1), Land north of Queen Street 25/03/2009
car parking, service yard, access and Great Harwood
landscaping (Resubmission 11/07/0455)
Hunterswalk Ltd & Tesco Stores Ltd

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...y_of_state.pdf

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Don't think its their policy Park, Asda seem to build a large store in every main town Accrington, Rawtenstall, Blackburn, Bolton and the like, whereas Tesco seem to go for some smaller outlets in smaller towns like Ossy and Great Harwood

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Must admit, they are getting very good now at keeping the applications up to date for us to see.

This one probably reflects the credit crunch, are being told that more people are taking their chances on gambling :-

11/09/0153 Subdivision of Retail Unit (Class A1) to 15 Broadway Accrington BB5 02/04/2009
create Betting Office (Class A2) and 1ES
installation of new shop front and access
Ladbrokes Plc
11/09/0154 Display of 4 No. internally illuminated fascia 15 Broadway Accrington BB5 02/04/2009
signs and 2 No. internally illuminated 1ES
projecting box signs
Ladbrokes Plc


Think this may be helpful to the shops past the lights at Clayton, are they thinking of knocking out the parking spaces then?:-

11/09/0092 Change of use of land to form car park Land at Canal Street Mill 03/04/2009
Street and Whalley Road
Clayton le Moors
Lancashire County Council


This is good for the youngsters of Great Harwood :-

11/09/0150 Erection of single storey Pavilion Lyndon House Playing Fields 02/04/2009
incorporating changing room, equipment store Balfour Street/Wood Street
and coach education suite; car parking and Great Harwood
vehicle access from Balfour Street
Trustees of Great Harwood Rovers

Looks like this may get going ... 23 new residential builds for Hyndburn Homes.. :D

11/09/0140 Discharge of condition No. 5 of 11/06/0689 Land bounded by Charter Street 30/03/2009
Chester Street and Craven
Street Accrington
Hyndburn Homes Ltd

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Puzzled by that last one - the houses are built and being lived in

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Looks like there was a condition set when building the houses - now they want it removed ie not do the work in condition 5. This could be something to do with access or the type of paving etc.etc

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Very little going in at present still, only this :-

Don't you feel sorry for a resident up Manchester Road, who just can't get permission for his personal swimming pool and gym though ... LOL,

Refused for the following reason
Reasons for refusal
1 The erection of the proposed extension, because of its height, size, location and
design, would constitute an unneighbourly form of development which would be
overbearing and detrimental to the amenities of the occupiers of the adjoining dwellings,
and therefore be contrary to Policy E10 of the Hyndburn Borough Local Plan.
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Am I just being green and mean ? Or are the neighbours ? ... :rolleyes::D