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katex 21-04-2011 19:22

Re: Planning Applications
 
Application to demolish an unsafe 2-storey building at the back.

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Application No:11/11/0158Registration Date:20 Apr 2011Location:REGENCY BAR CHURCH STREET ACCRINGTONDevelopment:CONSERVATION AREA CONSENT:DEMOLITION OF OUTBUILDING TO REAR OF SITE.

Hope this comes up ok, but why does a smiley keep coming up in the middle of the text. Have HBC developed a sense of humour then ?

Ah ! Have worked it out .. it is when the text goes like this ...
CONSENT : D EMOLITION ... get it ? LOL.

park381 21-04-2011 20:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 900005)
Application to demolish an unsafe 2-storey building at the back.

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Application No:11/11/0158Registration Date:20 Apr 2011Location:REGENCY BAR CHURCH STREET ACCRINGTONDevelopment:CONSERVATION AREA CONSENT:DEMOLITION OF OUTBUILDING TO REAR OF SITE.

Hope this comes up ok, but why does a smiley keep coming up in the middle of the text. Have HBC developed a sense of humour then ?

Ah ! Have worked it out .. it is when the text goes like this ...
CONSENT : D EMOLITION ... get it ? LOL.

Nice one :dancedog:

katex 27-04-2011 16:49

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Pleased some intention to improve Clayton's Post Office ... 'tis a 'right run down dump' ..:D

Application No:11/11/0162Registration Date:26 Apr 2011Location:38 PICKUP STREET CLAYTON LE MOORS ACCRINGTON BB5 5NSDevelopment:Full: Installation of new shop front and additional door for access to first floor to front elevation

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park381 27-04-2011 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 901481)
Pleased some intention to improve Clayton's Post Office ... 'tis a 'right run down dump' ..:D

Application No:11/11/0162Registration Date:26 Apr 2011Location:38 PICKUP STREET CLAYTON LE MOORS ACCRINGTON BB5 5NSDevelopment:Full: Installation of new shop front and additional door for access to first floor to front elevation

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Must be keeping that one open then :alright:

katex 27-04-2011 18:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 901495)
Must be keeping that one open then :alright:


Yes, would seem so Park .. it is always busy, but did need refurbishing, was pleased to see this.

park381 27-04-2011 18:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 901509)
Yes, would seem so Park .. it is always busy, but did need refurbishing, was pleased to see this.

They were all busy even the ones out in the sticks, Ossy now only has the one in the Co-op, the next one is at west end. Its a long walk :eek:

park381 12-05-2011 18:42

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What to do, here are two planning applications for 22 Haslingden Old Road

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The first application was withdrawn, the second application was passed, a two storey extension to the side of the house. What has been built or is in the process of being built is a single storey detached building, fronted by entrance walls, see the approved drawings. The application was passed in 2009,........I pass the site several times a week, there would seem to be a big difference in the approved drawings and what has been built......I wonder does anyone from the planning department visit this website, if so get the Planning Enforcement Officer to visit 22 Haslingden Old Road and check it out. :hidewall:

katex 19-05-2011 19:26

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Bit lost with this one .. know has been applied for before. The applicant is Hurstwood Properties ... are they doing it on behalf of a potential buyer ?:

Comment On Application
Application No:11/11/0177Registration Date:11 May 2011Location:WESTWOOD GARAGE HARWOOD ROAD RISHTONDevelopment:CHANGE OF USE AND ALTERATIONS OF EXISTING BUILDING TO FORM ONE A1 RETAIL UNIT (430sqm) AND ONE RECEPTION UNIT (108sqm) FOR THE EXISTING USE OF THE REMAINING PROPERTY (CAR WORK SHOP).

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Well, at least Mcdonalds are having a make-over:

Application No:11/11/0176Registration Date:11 May 2011Location:MCDONALDS RESTAURANT LTD HYNDBURN ROAD ACCRINGTON Development:REFURBISHMENT OF RESTAURANT AND PATIO AREA, INCLUDING ASSOCIATED WORK TO THE SITE. ELEVATIONAL CHANGES INCLUDING CLADDING. INSTALLATION OF A CUSTOMER ORDER DISPLAY WITH CANOPY. REPLACEMENT AND NEW SIGNAGE

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claytonender 19-05-2011 21:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 905728)
What to do, here are two planning applications for 22 Haslingden Old Road

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The first application was withdrawn, the second application was passed, a two storey extension to the side of the house. What has been built or is in the process of being built is a single storey detached building, fronted by entrance walls, see the approved drawings. The application was passed in 2009,........I pass the site several times a week, there would seem to be a big difference in the approved drawings and what has been built......I wonder does anyone from the planning department visit this website, if so get the Planning Enforcement Officer to visit 22 Haslingden Old Road and check it out. :hidewall:

I have reported this to the planning department

katex 23-05-2011 11:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 907423)
I have reported this to the planning department


Hey, that is good.

Like this:

Application No:11/11/0190Registration Date:19 May 2011Location:1 VICTOR STREET CLAYTON LE MOORS ACCRINGTON BB5 5PD Development:CHANGE OF USE FROM A1 SHOP TO DROP IN ADVICE CENTRE (SUI GENERIS USE)

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Since we lost the Neighbourhood Management office (mind you, never knew it was there before) ... this is a more prominent position and will be better used. Is the shop that was a butchers, and if the Post Office goes ahead with their refurbishment should tidy up that block nicely.

Well done Nick Collingridge ... even though in the Planning Application you are initially addressed as a Mrs... :D

park381 23-05-2011 12:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 907423)
I have reported this to the planning department

Good I hope the planning enforcement officer brings them to task. :hidewall:

I feel that it is important to report what are possible beaches of planning conditions more so now with the cut back of Council staff

park381 23-05-2011 12:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 907397)
Bit lost with this one .. know has been applied for before. The applicant is Hurstwood Properties ... are they doing it on behalf of a potential buyer ?:

Comment On Application
Application No:11/11/0177Registration Date:11 May 2011Location:WESTWOOD GARAGE HARWOOD ROAD RISHTONDevelopment:CHANGE OF USE AND ALTERATIONS OF EXISTING BUILDING TO FORM ONE A1 RETAIL UNIT (430sqm) AND ONE RECEPTION UNIT (108sqm) FOR THE EXISTING USE OF THE REMAINING PROPERTY (CAR WORK SHOP).

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Well, at least Mcdonalds are having a make-over:

Application No:11/11/0176Registration Date:11 May 2011Location:MCDONALDS RESTAURANT LTD HYNDBURN ROAD ACCRINGTON Development:REFURBISHMENT OF RESTAURANT AND PATIO AREA, INCLUDING ASSOCIATED WORK TO THE SITE. ELEVATIONAL CHANGES INCLUDING CLADDING. INSTALLATION OF A CUSTOMER ORDER DISPLAY WITH CANOPY. REPLACEMENT AND NEW SIGNAGE

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Did Hurstwood not go into liquidation a while ago?

Neil 23-05-2011 13:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 908277)
Good I hope the planning enforcement officer brings them to task. :hidewall:

I feel that it is important to report what are possible beaches of planning conditions more so now with the cut back of Council staff

Did you report it directly yourself?

cashman 23-05-2011 14:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 908294)
Did you report it directly yourself?

Been there,done that,years ago, waste of time imho, much better if a member of the council reports it.;)

park381 23-05-2011 14:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 908294)
Did you report it directly yourself?

Not in this case, I was asking a question, and that question was answered by someone on accy web whom I assume is on the planning committee

I have however reported possible breaches of planning conditions in the past.

katex 23-05-2011 15:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 908278)
Did Hurstwood not go into liquidation a while ago?

Looked at Companies House, Park ... seems a Hurstwood RSL Ltd., based in Bolton did. This is Hurstwood Properties (Y) Ltd in Manchester. Possibly all under the same umbrella, but operating separately do you think ?

park381 23-05-2011 15:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 908315)
Looked at Companies House, Park ... seems a Hurstwood RSL Ltd., based in Bolton did. This is Hurstwood Properties (Y) Ltd in Manchester. Possibly all under the same umbrella, but operating separately do you think ?

You could be right there kate, were they not in the Rossendale area as well

katex 23-05-2011 15:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 908318)
You could be right there kate, were they not in the Rossendale area as well

Yes, this is the one that has made the application ... was showing the registered address in Manchester on CH which threw me.

They could have been a Management buy out or maybe they are franchaised ? Who knows.

park381 25-05-2011 18:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 907423)
I have reported this to the planning department

Is there any feedback, have HBC taken any action on the problem, or are they still thinking about it. :confused:

park381 25-05-2011 18:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 908324)
Yes, this is the one that has made the application ... was showing the registered address in Manchester on CH which threw me.

They could have been a Management buy out or maybe they are franchaised ? Who knows.

May be. Hirstwood started a new build project at Knott End on the sea front, large block of £££££ flats with shops on the ground floor,job stopped at first floor level, drawings dated 2007/08. :eek:

katex 19-06-2011 12:11

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Lots of Neighbour Objections to this cell mast .. can't blame them really :

Application No:11/11/0230Registration Date:27 May 2011Location:THE CROWN GROUND LIVINGSTONE ROAD ACCRINGTONDevelopment:ERECTION OF 17.5M COLUMN WITH ANTENNAS AND METER CABINET/EQUIPMENT ENCLOSURE

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At least the gentleman who bought The Adelphi is looking to improve the exterior, which is good, did look a little shabby :

Application No:11/11/0262Registration Date:17 Jun 2011Location:16-18 AVENUE PARADE, ACCRINGTONBB5 6PJDevelopment:REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING TIMBER WINDOW AND DOOR FRAMES WITH UPVC TEAK FRAMES.

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Application for new housing :

Application No:11/11/0237Registration Date:02 Jun 2011Location:LAND AT ARTHUR STREET GREAT HARWOOD Development:ERECTION OF 12NO BUNGALOW DWELLINGS.

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park381 19-06-2011 15:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 913098)
Lots of Neighbour Objections to this cell mast .. can't blame them really :

Application No:11/11/0230Registration Date:27 May 2011Location:THE CROWN GROUND LIVINGSTONE ROAD ACCRINGTONDevelopment:ERECTION OF 17.5M COLUMN WITH ANTENNAS AND METER CABINET/EQUIPMENT ENCLOSURE

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Know a couple that live close, they to have objected to the mast.

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At least the gentleman who bought The Adelphi is looking to improve the exterior, which is good, did look a little shabby :

Application No:11/11/0262Registration Date:17 Jun 2011Location:16-18 AVENUE PARADE, ACCRINGTONBB5 6PJDevelopment:REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING TIMBER WINDOW AND DOOR FRAMES WITH UPVC TEAK FRAMES.

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Quote:

Application for new housing :

Application No:11/11/0237Registration Date:02 Jun 2011Location:LAND AT ARTHUR STREET GREAT HARWOOD Development:ERECTION OF 12NO BUNGALOW DWELLINGS.

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Seems a small job for Barnfield Construction. Wonder if its a Barnfield / HBC project :rolleyes:

katex 19-06-2011 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 913115)
Seems a small job for Barnfield Construction. Wonder if its a Barnfield / HBC project :rolleyes:

The applicant is Barnfield and Hyndburn Development Partnership isn't it.
Is this HBC then ?

park381 19-06-2011 15:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 913121)
The applicant is Barnfield and Hyndburn Development Partnership isn't it.
Is this HBC then ?

Yes I think so, only looked at the drawings, they just have Barnfield down as client. :D

katex 24-06-2011 11:43

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FTAO Jaysay re Enforcement Notices.
Looks like this guy will have no extension when he returns from abroad.
An Enforcement notice has been issued.

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...aldtwistle.pdf

katex 24-06-2011 11:54

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Full plans for the Food emporium which was the Black Horse.
Think spider may have a go at the drawings again here..:D

Application No:11/11/0264Registration Date:20 Jun 2011Location:BLACK HORSE HOTEL 58 ABBEY STREET ACCRINGTON BB5 1EE Development:FULL: ALTERATIONS TO FORMER PUBLIC HOUSE TO FORM FOOD EMPORIUM WITH 2 NO SELF-CONTAINED FLATS AT FIRST FLOOR

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Bigger area for supping, folks, at The Brewers :

Application No:11/11/0267Registration Date:22 Jun 2011Location:BREWERS ARMSTHWAITES ROADOSWALDTWISTLEBB5 4QGDevelopment:ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY EXTENSION TO LOUNGE TO ALLOW BAR FACILITIES TO BE ALTERED AND NEW STAGE AREA FORMED.

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This your car wash, Park ? Looks like they may have read one of our post .. retrospective.

Application No:11/11/0275Registration Date:23 Jun 2011Location:WEST END BLACKBURN ROADOSWALDTWISTLEBB5 4NZDevelopment:CHANGE OF USE TO CAR WASH PREMISES.(RETROSPECTIVE).

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Neil 24-06-2011 12:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 914009)
FTAO Jaysay re Enforcement Notices.
Looks like this guy will have no extension when he returns from abroad.
An Enforcement notice has been issued.

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...aldtwistle.pdf

Its a shame for the tenants but good to see them taking the hard line and sorting it out.

katex 24-06-2011 12:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 914013)
Its a shame for the tenants but good to see them taking the hard line and sorting it out.

Exactly, Neil, some folks seem to think they can do what they wish.
Perhaps the tenant could ask for a reduction in their rent, as and when the council move in with the bulldozers.. LOL.

park381 24-06-2011 12:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 914011)
Full plans for the Food emporium which was the Black Horse.
Think spider may have a go at the drawings again here..:D

Application No:11/11/0264Registration Date:20 Jun 2011Location:BLACK HORSE HOTEL 58 ABBEY STREET ACCRINGTON BB5 1EE Development:FULL: ALTERATIONS TO FORMER PUBLIC HOUSE TO FORM FOOD EMPORIUM WITH 2 NO SELF-CONTAINED FLATS AT FIRST FLOOR

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Old fashioned drawings produced on the drawing board, have a good idea who has drawn them :D

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Bigger area for supping, folks, at The Brewers :

Application No:11/11/0267Registration Date:22 Jun 2011Location:BREWERS ARMSTHWAITES ROADOSWALDTWISTLEBB5 4QGDevelopment:ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY EXTENSION TO LOUNGE TO ALLOW BAR FACILITIES TO BE ALTERED AND NEW STAGE AREA FORMED.

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New stage - live bands wow that should be good

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This your car wash, Park ? Looks like they may have read one of our post .. retrospective.

Application No:11/11/0275Registration Date:23 Jun 2011Location:WEST END BLACKBURN ROADOSWALDTWISTLEBB5 4NZDevelopment:CHANGE OF USE TO CAR WASH PREMISES.(RETROSPECTIVE).

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I thought someone would spot it, but what about the bungalow next door to the car wash, entrance drive, double gates on to main road, have they planning permission :eek:

katex 24-06-2011 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 914018)
I thought someone would spot it, but what about the bungalow next door to the car wash, entrance drive, double gates on to main road, have they planning permission :eek:

Hawkeye .. :D Goes off to check >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

park381 24-06-2011 13:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 914020)
Hawkeye .. :D Goes off to check >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not had the time yet, but will do.

katex 24-06-2011 13:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 914021)
Not had the time yet, but will do.

Can't see anything, Park, however may be missing it and the new format only goes back to October, 2010 and a bit laborious to go back further. As you know, PP can hold for 3 years.

Do you think they would have needed it then ? No. 172 I presume.

park381 24-06-2011 14:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 914023)
Can't see anything, Park, however may be missing it and the new format only goes back to October, 2010 and a bit laborious to go back further. As you know, PP can hold for 3 years.

Do you think they would have needed it then ? No. 172 I presume.

The bungalow is right next to the "new car wash" they share they same boundary, but I think the front door of the bungalow is on Buttermere Drive. They have installed double gates to the boundary wall on Blackburn road and a driveway up to the house, vehicles will have to mount the curb to access the new drive, that is unless there are plans to drop the footpath to allow vehicle entry. :confused: Yes 172 it is (missed that bit off)

park381 24-06-2011 15:10

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This is a strange one, 3 applications for 172 Blackburn road

2 x in 1975 for the land at the rear of 172
1 x in 1989 for a new "shop front" at 172

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:eek: :eek:

katex 24-06-2011 15:27

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The 1989 one is for 172, Blackburn Road, Accrington, not Oswaldtwistle..LOL.
See the applicant on the others ... Kirkhams for their coaches.

park381 24-06-2011 15:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 914032)
The 1989 one is for 172, Blackburn Road, Accrington, not Oswaldtwistle..LOL.
See the applicant on the others ... Kirkhams for their coaches.

Must get glasses changed. :o

It would seem that there is no application for the current project at 172 then ;)

jaysay 24-06-2011 17:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 914009)
FTAO Jaysay re Enforcement Notices.
Looks like this guy will have no extension when he returns from abroad.
An Enforcement notice has been issued.

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...aldtwistle.pdf

Can't open the link Kate ain't got the program its written in

park381 24-06-2011 17:55

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Love it, look at the white lines for vehicle parking, think they have made a good job of it. :D

katex 25-06-2011 09:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 914034)
Must get glasses changed. :o

It would seem that there is no application for the current project at 172 then ;)


Looks that way.

Can you take a look at this, Park, have they completely withdrawn their plans (see decisions) or maybe drawing up new ones do you think due to its proximity to the culvert ? Didn't appear to be any further correspondense after the Surveyor questioned the Environmental Agency on the run of the culvert.

Application No:11/11/0147Registration Date:15 Apr 2011Location:BRIDGE INN 135 HENRY STREET CHURCH ACCRINGTON BB5 4EPDevelopment:PROPOSED FRONT AND REAR SINGLE STOREY EXTENSIONS AND SIDE TWO STOREY EXTENSION TOGETHER WITH BOUNDARY CHANGES

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MargaretR 25-06-2011 10:01

Re: Planning Applications
 
I drove past the Bridge Inn Church on wednesday.
I noticed some building happening at the front.
I didn't take a good look because I was driving but got the impression of a wall under construction.

cashman 25-06-2011 10:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 914147)
Looks that way.

Can you take a look at this, Park, have they completely withdrawn their plans (see decisions) or maybe drawing up new ones do you think due to its proximity to the culvert ? Didn't appear to be any further correspondense after the Surveyor questioned the Environmental Agency on the run of the culvert.

Application No:11/11/0147Registration Date:15 Apr 2011Location:BRIDGE INN 135 HENRY STREET CHURCH ACCRINGTON BB5 4EPDevelopment:PROPOSED FRONT AND REAR SINGLE STOREY EXTENSIONS AND SIDE TWO STOREY EXTENSION TOGETHER WITH BOUNDARY CHANGES

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its a bit of a balls up kate, the culvert was not running were the authoritys said it did.;) this was proved by a dig, at the owners request.

katex 25-06-2011 10:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 914149)
its a bit of a balls up kate, the culvert was not running were the authoritys said it did.;) this was proved by a dig, at the owners request.

Thanks, Cashy, was looking that way ... so why has the application been withdrawn do you think ?

cashman 25-06-2011 10:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 914151)
Thanks, Cashy, was looking that way ... so why has the application been withdrawn do you think ?

as far as i know, been a change of plan/tactic, due to extra costs incurred.

katex 25-06-2011 10:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 914154)
as far as i know, been a change of plan/tactic, due to extra costs incurred.


Yeh, thought that may have been the case as they are too committed to back out of improvements now I suppose, having already started work on it. Shame, particularly as it looks like their Surveyor was correct in the first place re. the culvert.. made interesting reading though.

park381 25-06-2011 11:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 914155)
Yeh, thought that may have been the case as they are too committed to back out of improvements now I suppose, having already started work on it. Shame, particularly as it looks like their Surveyor was correct in the first place re. the culvert.. made interesting reading though.

See Agent's letter and EA's letter, the line of the rear extension still falls within the 8m distance of the culvert, even after correct line of culvert established.

katex 25-06-2011 11:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 914163)
See Agent's letter and EA's letter, the line of the rear extension still falls within the 8m distance of the culvert, even after correct line of culvert established.

Yes, read them a few times. :) Just a gap between the Surveyor asking the EA to withdraw their objection as access to the culvert was still possible even though some of the building would be within 8 metres ... but looked like extra cost may have been involved by the Bridge Inn ?

Loved the bit re. the trees and the Surveyor pointed out that trees had already been planted over the culvert at some stage .. :eek: I'm easily amused.

park381 25-06-2011 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 914167)
Yes, read them a few times. :) Just a gap between the Surveyor asking the EA to withdraw their objection as access to the culvert was still possible even though some of the building would be within 8 metres ... but looked like extra cost may have been involved by the Bridge Inn ?

Loved the bit re. the trees and the Surveyor pointed out that trees had already been planted over the culvert at some stage .. :eek: I'm easily amused.

Possible new application with layout alterations to keep building line clear of the culvert. Same old problem with the trees, rules change and what is built is not always as per approved plans, once an application is passed the planning have no more involvement it's down to building control.........unless there is a complaint :D

Tealeaf 29-06-2011 14:56

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It looks like an area around India Street and China Street is going to become Alley Gated.

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I can't see in the planning docs

a) What is the cost?

b) Is this part of the Elevate scheme?

c) If not, why has this site been chosen as against others?

d) If successful, is funding in place to extend the scheme?

katex 29-06-2011 19:25

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Thanks, Tealeaf, noticed this in applications for Blackburn and Darwen the other week. Lot of reading in there from other councils' experiences, but interesting nevertheless.

The main statement is :

'Helping to reduce crime, fear of crime and nuisance in Lancashire'

Is this a bad area then for back alley crime ?

The applicant is HBC, but doesn't, obviously, state where funding is coming from. Could well be part of some scheme on crime prevention or summat ?

katex 29-06-2011 19:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 915352)
c) If not, why has this site been chosen as against others?

Reading a little more, does appear that residents have to apply in the first instance.

This is an interesting development for Hyndburn.

park381 01-07-2011 15:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 915462)
Thanks, Tealeaf, noticed this in applications for Blackburn and Darwen the other week. Lot of reading in there from other councils' experiences, but interesting nevertheless.

The main statement is :

'Helping to reduce crime, fear of crime and nuisance in Lancashire'

Is this a bad area then for back alley crime ?

The applicant is HBC, but doesn't, obviously, state where funding is coming from. Could well be part of some scheme on crime prevention or summat ?

Wonder how much all that "design" work cost, will the project create a no go area?

Mikejoed 05-07-2011 17:28

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I too am curious as to why the need in this particular area for Alley gating. Hope this isn't the start of Councils penning areas in so they end up looking like ghettos.

When the workmen erecting these knock off for the day do you think they say "Se ya later allygator!":yelrotflm

katex 05-07-2011 17:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikejoed (Post 916781)
I too am curious as to why the need in this particular area for Alley gating. Hope this isn't the start of Councils penning areas in so they end up looking like ghettos.

When the workmen erecting these knock off for the day do you think they say "Se ya later allygator!":yelrotflm


As far as I can see, this is a first for Hyndburn, Mike, sure it could be the start of more applications. Problem is, when they alleygate certain backstreets, it just leaves the surrounding ones more vulnerable to crime.

jaysay 05-07-2011 17:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 916786)
As far as I can see, this is a first for Hyndburn, Mike, sure it could be the start of more applications. Problem is, when they alleygate certain backstreets, it just leaves the surrounding ones more vulnerable to crime.

It actually happens quite a lot in the area where Joan lives Kate and there has been a great improvement in the break ins and vandalism saga

park381 05-07-2011 18:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 916791)
It actually happens quite a lot in the area where Joan lives Kate and there has been a great improvement in the break ins and vandalism saga

You mean other areas have been fitted with "alley gates" without planning permission. :eek:

katex 15-07-2011 06:09

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Am I reading this correctly ?
A fitness centre/gym is proposed within this building ?

Application No:11/11/0306Registration Date:12 Jul 2011Location:ACCRINGTON SUPERBOWL THE VIADUCT HYNDBURN ROAD ACCRINGTON Development:Certificate of Lawful Proposed Use (Section 192): Use of building as fitness suite (Use Class D2)

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park381 15-07-2011 06:18

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 919031)
Am I reading this correctly ?
A fitness centre/gym is proposed within this building ?

Application No:11/11/0306Registration Date:12 Jul 2011Location:ACCRINGTON SUPERBOWL THE VIADUCT HYNDBURN ROAD ACCRINGTON Development:Certificate of Lawful Proposed Use (Section 192): Use of building as fitness suite (Use Class D2)

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Looks that way, would have thought there were enough fitness centres/gyms in Accrington, is there not one at the other end of Hyndburn road

katex 15-07-2011 06:22

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 905728)
What to do, here are two planning applications for 22 Haslingden Old Road

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The first application was withdrawn, the second application was passed, a two storey extension to the side of the house. What has been built or is in the process of being built is a single storey detached building, fronted by entrance walls, see the approved drawings. The application was passed in 2009,........I pass the site several times a week, there would seem to be a big difference in the approved drawings and what has been built......I wonder does anyone from the planning department visit this website, if so get the Planning Enforcement Officer to visit 22 Haslingden Old Road and check it out. :hidewall:

Eeew .... lookee, Park :

Application No:11/11/0313Registration Date:13 Jul 2011Location:22 HASLINGDEN OLD ROAD BLACKBURN BB1 2DY Development:Householder: Single storey rear extension (retrospective)

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park381 15-07-2011 06:43

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 919036)
Eeew .... lookee, Park :

Application No:11/11/0313Registration Date:13 Jul 2011Location:22 HASLINGDEN OLD ROAD BLACKBURN BB1 2DY Development:Householder: Single storey rear extension (retrospective)

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Single storey "rear" extension ha ha, what about the detached single storey extension to the side of the house, the new entrance walls, the lack of off road car parking..................are they going to be allowed to "get away" with it.Think I may need to get my camera out !!

katex 15-07-2011 06:48

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Go, Parkee, go ... :)

park381 15-07-2011 11:01

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 919036)
Eeew .... lookee, Park :

Application No:11/11/0313Registration Date:13 Jul 2011Location:22 HASLINGDEN OLD ROAD BLACKBURN BB1 2DY Development:Householder: Single storey rear extension (retrospective)

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That is a laugh (retrospective), the brickwork on the kitchen extension is up to roof level. I would put a stop on the whole project and make them take it all down including the detached single storey building, and the entrance walls, nothing like the drawings that were approved. Some people think they can do as they please :eek: It is a question of how strong Hyndburn's development control and enforcement section are.
If the property owners are not made to pull it down then, I see no need for a planning department at all, let people build what they want where they want

katex 24-08-2011 20:04

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So, what have we got lately .. not a lot.

Slight amendment to Owl Hall plans:

Application No:11/11/0353Registration Date:11 Aug 2011Location:OWL HALL PLANTATION ROAD ACCRINGTON BB5 2DQ Development:ERECTION OF TWO NO DWELLINGS AND SUB-DIVISION OF OWL HALL. (RESULTING IN NO INCREASE IN HOUSE NUMBERS AS APPROVED UNDER PLANNING APPLICATION 11/08/0390

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St. Christophers 2 (!) 6 A side football pitches ... what happened to Netball courts ??? :(

Application No:11/11/0344Registration Date:05 Aug 2011Location:ST CHRISTOPHERS C E HIGH SCHOOL QUEENS ROAD WEST ACCRINGTON LANCS BB5 4AY Development:CREATION OF 3G SURFACE 6 A-SIDE PITCHES AND EXTENSION TO CAR PARK INCLUDING EXTERNAL WORKS AND ASSOCIATED LIGHTING

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Alley Gates got passed .. will now open the Flood Gates :

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...rd&pageCount=1

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A refusal .. suppose was bound to happen being the oldest known property in Accrington :

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...rd&pageCount=1

walkinman221 24-08-2011 20:30

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 928718)
So, what have we got lately .. not a lot.

Slight amendment to Owl Hall plans:

Application No:11/11/0353Registration Date:11 Aug 2011Location:OWL HALL PLANTATION ROAD ACCRINGTON BB5 2DQ Development:ERECTION OF TWO NO DWELLINGS AND SUB-DIVISION OF OWL HALL. (RESULTING IN NO INCREASE IN HOUSE NUMBERS AS APPROVED UNDER PLANNING APPLICATION 11/08/0390

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St. Christophers 2 (!) 6 A side football pitches ... what happened to Netball courts ??? :(

Application No:11/11/0344Registration Date:05 Aug 2011Location:ST CHRISTOPHERS C E HIGH SCHOOL QUEENS ROAD WEST ACCRINGTON LANCS BB5 4AY Development:CREATION OF 3G SURFACE 6 A-SIDE PITCHES AND EXTENSION TO CAR PARK INCLUDING EXTERNAL WORKS AND ASSOCIATED LIGHTING

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Alley Gates got passed .. will now open the Flood Gates :

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...rd&pageCount=1

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A refusal .. suppose was bound to happen being the oldest known property in Accrington :

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...rd&pageCount=1

The chap who applied for this is a friend of mine and even if he wasnt the decision stinks , the cottages are the oldest listed buildings in in accrington but they have all been extended several times . The extension they wanted would not be seen by anybody other than the householders themselves , the conservation officer got a bee in his bonnet about the extension covering an original window.The window was not being altered covered or removed but he was of the opinion that it was detrimental to the simple linear line of the building which has about five additions on it already.I dont get it its 2011 not 1628 people have to live in these buildings and modern life is different. Anyway rant over sorry:(

katex 24-08-2011 21:09

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S'okay for your rant, Walkinman, did feel slightly sympathetic to this myself, I know extensions have to fit in with surrounding, etc., but feel it was more of a political decision.

Couldn't really see what harm it was doing, like you say, particularly as similar to what has been passed before.

I love our old buildings, but sometimes they have to move on.

katex 30-08-2011 15:45

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Thought you may be interested in two appeals to the Secretary of State which were dismissed.

The first one is domestic, which I don't really like to report on here, but the reasons for disallowing Planning Permission may be helpful :

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...mere_Drive.pdf

Can't say was sorry about this one either:

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...l_Decision.pdf

katex 22-09-2011 06:51

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Quite a large proposed development this :

Application No:11/11/0395Registration Date:20 Sep 2011Location:HAMBLEDON MILL MARLBOROUGH ROAD ACCRINGTON LANCSDevelopment:Major outline application: Proposed mixed use development comprising employment and residential development and demolition of existing buildings

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katex 06-10-2011 07:26

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A resubmission here after the first PA was rejected :

Application No:11/11/0428Registration Date:04 Oct 2011Location:THOMPSON COURT, OFF BANK STREET, ACCRINGTONDevelopment:ERECTION OF FOUR DWELLINGS (RESUBMISSION)

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Atarah 10-10-2011 12:27

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 938241)
A resubmission here after the first PA was rejected :

Application No:11/11/0428Registration Date:04 Oct 2011Location:THOMPSON COURT, OFF BANK STREET, ACCRINGTONDevelopment:ERECTION OF FOUR DWELLINGS (RESUBMISSION)

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This is a very strange one. No-one can believe how anyone in their right mind would want to build properties in this area of town, BUT, its supposed to be part of the Town Conservation Area, so how can this be? At the moment, the only access would be up the back alley by what used to be THE LUCKY SHOE SHOP. The people in the vacinity want help by members of the public to STOP this and are asking folk to go up to the Planning Office and make an objection, or at least ask to see the plans!

Atarah 10-10-2011 12:32

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Here is a view of the old property in question

MargaretR 10-10-2011 12:42

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 939010)
This is a very strange one. No-one can believe how anyone in their right mind would want to build properties in this area of town, BUT, its supposed to be part of the Town Conservation Area, so how can this be? At the moment, the only access would be up the back alley by what used to be THE LUCKY SHOE SHOP. The people in the vacinity want help by members of the public to STOP this and are asking folk to go up to the Planning Office and make an objection, or at least ask to see the plans!

The plans can be seen from the link Katex posted
http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...df&pageCount=1

Why do you object to development of a brownfield site?
Whatever is built there wont be visible from Bank St.

Atarah 10-10-2011 13:01

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But this is a "re submission" - they were NOT given planning permission before, now new plans mentioning 3 storey buildings have materialised. This has been a quiet "back water" for goodness knows how many years. How would you like that facing your windows? Am only trying to get support for a friend of mine.

MargaretR 10-10-2011 13:18

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I agree that three storeys may well be inappropriate.
I agree that the photo of dereliction you posted is not a good view either.

katex 10-10-2011 16:20

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 939015)
But this is a "re submission" - they were NOT given planning permission before, now new plans mentioning 3 storey buildings have materialised. This has been a quiet "back water" for goodness knows how many years. How would you like that facing your windows? Am only trying to get support for a friend of mine.

Show your friend the design statement, Atarah ... only 2-story buildings.
Shows old documents too which is really interesting.

http://planning.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/WA...df&pageCount=1

Atarah 11-10-2011 05:26

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Hi Katex, the old documents on this particular plan are more than interesting, they are FASCINATING. I really need to be able to look at plan 11/11/0428 in connection with this property. Would you be able to help me find that one please?

katex 11-10-2011 07:04

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The one I have put up is application no. 11/11/0428. Just hit the wording 'Case File' ... it is all there. Here it is again anyway.

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Go into the ones headed CAD drawing .. shows the plans of the proposed development.

Atarah 11-10-2011 13:03

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sorry, the posting 773 which I looked at this morning said 427, so thats all I saw. (sorry, hadnt looked at posting 767) my mistake.
Have been to see the person today who is "battling" with this, all very upsetting for them.

Neil 11-10-2011 13:12

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 939010)
At the moment, the only access would be up the back alley by what used to be THE LUCKY SHOE SHOP.

They are making Nos 29 and 31 Bank street into 1 and making the back ally wider.




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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 939237)
.....Have been to see the person today who is "battling" with this, all very upsetting for them.

Why dont they want this if it will get rid of that eyesore in the picture?

Atarah 11-10-2011 13:34

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Because its lovely and private!

MargaretR 11-10-2011 13:56

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Everyone needs their own private eyesore:rolleyes:;)

jaysay 11-10-2011 18:02

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Originally Posted by Atarah (Post 939249)
Because its lovely and private!

Private or not I'm glad it ain't outside my window;)

katex 14-10-2011 11:11

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Ok .. no objection to the extension, but hope they refuse the dome and minarets.

Application No:11/11/0439Registration Date:12 Oct 2011Location:1 PARK STREET GREAT HARWOOD BB6 7BP Development:ERECTION OF DOME AND MINARETS TO FRON ROOF SLOPE, ERECTION OF FIRST FLOOR EXTENSION AND SECOND FLOOR DORMER EXTENSION AND EXTERNAL ALTERATIONS.

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katex 07-11-2011 10:44

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Think this will be good news for people on Pilot Street:

Application No:11/11/0469Registration Date:04 Nov 2011Location:FORMER BAXENDEN MOTOR BODIES PILOT STREET ACCRINGTON DEMOLITION OF EXISTING GARAGE AND ERECTION OF FOUR DWELLINGS

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katex 27-11-2011 11:05

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This is the application for improvements to the grounds of St. James's Church ... know Atarah was concerned about them removing the flat gravestones... can't find the thread she mentioned it on.

Application No:11/11/0496Registration Date:24 Nov 2011Location:ST JAMES CHURCH CANNON STREET ACCRINGTONDevelopment:LBC: REFURBISHMENT OF ST JAMES CHURCH GROUNDS PROVIDING 2 NEW PATHS, 2 NEW ENTRANCES, INCLUDING ADDITIONAL HARDSURFACED AREAS AND NEW LOW LEVEL WALLING.

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Go into Heritage Statement.

jaysay 27-11-2011 17:55

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Haven't seen Park on for a while hope he's okay

katex 09-12-2011 12:28

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 939843)
Ok .. no objection to the extension, but hope they refuse the dome and minarets.

Application No:11/11/0439Registration Date:12 Oct 2011Location:1 PARK STREET GREAT HARWOOD BB6 7BP Development:ERECTION OF DOME AND MINARETS TO FRON ROOF SLOPE, ERECTION OF FIRST FLOOR EXTENSION AND SECOND FLOOR DORMER EXTENSION AND EXTERNAL ALTERATIONS.

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This has been refused and one was on the erection of the domes and minarets. Good.
There was other refusals on grounds of parking and overbearing impact to surrounding properties.

Reasons for refusal
1 The proposed dome, minarets and canopy, by reason of their location, design,
appearance and materials, would be inappropriate and out of character with the
surrounding development and therefore detrimental to the visual amenities of the area.
Therefore the proposed development would be contrary to saved Policy E10 of the
Hyndburn Borough Local Plan and to Policies Env6 & Env7 of the Hyndburn Core
Strategy and PPS 1.

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 952250)
Haven't seen Park on for a while hope he's okay

I've been wondering too, Jaysay. Come back Park. x

katex 09-12-2011 12:31

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 938241)
A resubmission here after the first PA was rejected :

Application No:11/11/0428Registration Date:04 Oct 2011Location:THOMPSON COURT, OFF BANK STREET, ACCRINGTONDevelopment:ERECTION OF FOUR DWELLINGS (RESUBMISSION)

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Has been approved.

katex 09-12-2011 12:42

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The Planning Committee were certainly busy on Wednesday. Hope you didn't fall asleep, Bernard. Can read about other Appeals, Determination results here:

Planning Committee

Bernard Dawson 09-12-2011 17:41

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 954735)
The Planning Committee were certainly busy on Wednesday. Hope you didn't fall asleep, Bernard. Can read about other Appeals, Determination results here:

Planning Committee

I managed to stay awake Kate. It lasted about 3 hours, but there was a big agenda as you say. A lot of people at the meeting as well.

katex 09-12-2011 17:47

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 954796)
I managed to stay awake Kate. It lasted about 3 hours, but there was a big agenda as you say. A lot of people at the meeting as well.

What was the main interest ? See some big projects being presented. Hambledon Mill, Junction 7. Noticed the land destined for the Hill Top development has now been sold.

Bernard Dawson 09-12-2011 18:06

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 954797)
What was the main interest ? See some big projects being presented. Hambledon Mill, Junction 7. Noticed the land destined for the Hill Top development has now been sold.

Junction 7 and Hambledon Mill were the big ones.Quite a few people speaking on both, which you would expect. The Hill Top was the report back from the Inspector.

Neil 20-12-2011 17:14

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The Planning and Transportation budget has been cut by 30% and staff number have been reduced. The planning reception counter will only be open half days now.

I have attached a pdf letter from HBC with the details in for those interested.

park381 18-01-2012 07:20

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 952250)
Haven't seen Park on for a while hope he's okay

Hi jaysay, yes I am fine have been busy with other things :D

park381 18-01-2012 07:28

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 957284)
The Planning and Transportation budget has been cut by 30% and staff number have been reduced. The planning reception counter will only be open half days now.

I have attached a pdf letter from HBC with the details in for those interested.

Does all this mean that there will be less checking of projects on site, hence more projects completed that differ from the approved plans. If neighbours don't complain then the developers will do as they please.

jaysay 18-01-2012 08:45

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 963154)
Hi jaysay, yes I am fine have been busy with other things :D

Oh thats good to here Park

park381 18-01-2012 09:24

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 963169)
Oh thats good to here Park

Thank you jaysay, will be keeping an eye on the applications and comments ;) :D

jaysay 18-01-2012 09:27

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 963184)
Thank you jaysay, will be keeping an eye on the applications and comments ;) :D

Thats good, Kate gets tired out doing it all on her own Park:D

park381 18-01-2012 10:14

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 963186)
Thats good, Kate gets tired out doing it all on her own Park:D

Ah we can't have that :D

katex 18-01-2012 16:00

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Whoopee .. great to hear from you Park, was getting a little worried there.
Not much going on at the moment ..... except :

Best Wishes for a ...


http://friends18.com/img/happy-birthday/0406.gif

xx

park381 18-01-2012 18:28

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 963270)
Whoopee .. great to hear from you Park, was getting a little worried there.
Not much going on at the moment ..... except :

Best Wishes for a ...


http://friends18.com/img/happy-birthday/0406.gif

xx

Thank you kate, and my thanks to all my Accy Web friends
Have had a great day :D

katex 23-01-2012 06:47

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Not too sure what this means ? Are they upping production again ?

Application No:11/12/0012Registration Date:19 Jan 2012Location:WHINNEY HILL QUARRY WHINNEY HILL ROAD ACCRINGTON Development:EXTENSION TO EXISTING QUARRY TO WIN AND WORK STONE FOR BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION USE, WIN AND WORK OF BRICK CLAY FOR THE NEIGHBOURING ACCRINGTON NORI BRICK WORKS AND RESTORE THE SITE WITH IMPORTED INERT FILL AND MINING MATERIAL FROM THE QUARRY.

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Looks like Morrisons have taken over this petrol station .... gossip was a bit of a battle between them and Tesco for it:

Application No:11/12/0016Registration Date:17 Jan 2012Location:PETROMEX FORECOURT SERVICES LTD QUEEN STREET GREAT HARWOODDevelopment:Advertisement Consent Application: Adverts to canopy 6.7 m high illuminated totem and fascia sign to shop front (for Morrisons)

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